Nexus 4 Price Drop: 8GB $199, 16GB $249

This is completely off topic and I promise to shut up after I say it, but sometimes I read the replies to my posts and wonder if people read the post or just scanned it for key words and replied to what they thought I probably wrote.

It is why I quote what people say and will delete out sometimes what I am not referring too. Unfortunately what you stated is very common.
 
This is definitely pretty cool.

Not to trash-talk LTE by any means, but there's basically just about no 4G service in my area, so I don't see why I should care about this anyhow.

I do wonder if they've managed to resolve the compatibility issues between 4G and GPS. I remember hearing about how there was this huge concern on the part of both the military and commercial airlines that LTE will jam GPS and -- with their respective reliance upon it -- could allow for planes to have all kinds of navigation problems. Anyone hear any more about this?

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Who would pay $599 when you can get it for $199 from Play?

Only someone who is retarded would do that.
 
This is completely off topic and I promise to shut up after I say it, but sometimes I read the replies to my posts and wonder if people read the post or just scanned it for key words and replied to what they thought I probably wrote.

Not sure who you are referring to but I wasn't replying to you as you admitted you weren't an expert and your thoughts about hpsa shrinking were based on assumptions of how it works.

Anyway based off that when you drop of LTE in this future what would you get, no coverage, EDGE?

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I bought a nexus 4 almost a month ago from uk, my mate is bringing over to me in about 3weeks. I'm so gutted about the price drop cos I haven't even turned on my device. I wonder if I should contact Google..

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If this means that the N5 is coming by the end of the year it looks like ill be selling my S3, keeping the N4 for back up and buying a N5 when theyre available.
 
Is there a time span where if you've recently bought a nexus 4 from the play store and they reduce the price soon after, you can get some of the money back?

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If I'm not mistaken, if you have bought a Nexus 4 in the past 14-15 days from the discount, you are eligible for a refund of the difference.
 
I do wonder if they've managed to resolve the compatibility issues between 4G and GPS. I remember hearing about how there was this huge concern on the part of both the military and commercial airlines that LTE will jam GPS and -- with their respective reliance upon it -- could allow for planes to have all kinds of navigation problems. Anyone hear any more about this?

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I thought that was Lightsquared which Sprint dropped. They had spectrum that was near the GPS band and they weren't willing to give it up.
 
I agree. My concern is that in two years, and maybe even in one year, T-Mobile's HSPA footprint will have shrunk. Most of that LTE coverage isn't coming from new towers, it's coming from repurposed old towers. I'm not an expert, so I don't know how that works exactly, but the risk in my mind is that as LTE coverage expands, HSPA coverage will shrink. That is what I'm worried about; not that HSPA is inadequate now, but what it will be like down the road. Even in the best case scenario, with resources being poured into LTE, HSPA coverage will never expand again, even if it doesn't diminish. Not to say the Nexus 4 isn't still a great deal; at prices like that you can probably afford to upgrade when you have to, but it's getting to the point now where I'd hesitate to buy a non-LTE device. It wouldn't necessarily be a deal-breaker, I'd just have to think twice.

Here's the official page from T-Mo explaining the refarm: Network Evolution | T-Mobile Support

Long story short - LTE is not taking anything away from H+. LTE is using the 1700 band, but any refarmed areas get the underused 1900 spectrum assigned to H+ in order to compensate. On T-Mo before refarming, 1900 is used for 2G (EDGE) traffic which is a shrinking minority of devices. Once they get their LTE rolling, look for T-Mo to start re-purposing 1900 to H+ on all their towers, actually increasing the footprint for H+. :D

T Mobile was somewhat behind on 3G rollouts compared to the other networks. They won the 1700 and 2100 bands at FCC auction, but had to wait for the snail's pace withdrawl of Government services from the spectrum before taking it over: T-Mobile US - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (scroll down to the "3G upgrade" section).

This is completely off topic and I promise to shut up after I say it, but sometimes I read the replies to my posts and wonder if people read the post or just scanned it for key words and replied to what they thought I probably wrote.

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Not sure who you are referring to but I wasn't replying to you as you admitted you weren't an expert and your thoughts about hpsa shrinking were based on assumptions of how it works.

Anyway based off that when you drop of LTE in this future what would you get, no coverage, EDGE?
That would be the concern, yes. And in this case I was just referring to people who replied to my post with a quote.

LTE is not taking anything away from H+. LTE is using the 1700 band, but any refarmed areas get the underused 1900 spectrum assigned to H+ in order to compensate. On T-Mo before refarming, 1900 is used for 2G (EDGE) traffic which is a shrinking minority of devices. Once they get their LTE rolling, look for T-Mo to start re-purposing 1900 to H+ on all their towers, actually increasing the footprint for H+.
That's awesome. Thanks for digging that up!
 
Yes. I guess I was expecting the 20+ I've seen in screen shots. Ah well, nexus 5 should have it since nexus 7 will? Great deal regardless of your LTE stance.

Anyone know if you can use nexus 4 on ATT without data plan? Have a friend using international gnex with WiFi only. Don't know if ATT doesn't care or they can't recognize the imei and leave it be. I've searched on it before but it always results in discussions on people getting busted using the cheap medianet plan.
I just started using Red Pocket $10/month plan - voice and text, .10/minute. They're using ATT as the carrier. $10/micro sim card. Make sure Data is disabled on your phone because data usage is deducted from your minutes. The same APN settings as for Straight talk/ATT will work.
 
I would've been all over it if Sprint supported this device. Still might be something to consider for around the house.
 
If I had an extra couple hundred bucks, I would get it.

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Someone who lives in a country without Play Store access.

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You're answering the question out of its context, which is "Who would [go to Best Buy and] pay $599 when you can get it for $199 from Play?"

I can't believe Best Buy has to pay more than what regular purchasers pay for the phone, which would mean $300 (or $400 now) pure profit on each phone.
 
With this price, I don't know whether to go N4 or N7. Grrrr.

I will make a choice next week for sure. Can't wait either way. :-)
 
I gave in tonight on this deal. I'm completely loathing my current phone (Sony Xperia U) and the wait for the Moto X on T-Mobile and the fear that the unlocked/off-contract price will be completely unreasonable shoved me into this. I'm looking forward to having a very nice phone for once rather than just a good enough phone. I /really/ did wanna wait, but Moto is making me sad.

Plus the price, if I don't eat out for lunch for a week or two, I'll be good.
 
With this price, I don't know whether to go N4 or N7. Grrrr.

I will make a choice next week for sure. Can't wait either way. :-)

If I were I would hurry as the n4 will almost certainly run out of stock with that price drop.

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