Nexus 5 likely to see Wi-Fi calling over T-mobile soon?

[Bigballer]

Have you tried using hangouts instead? Does the same thing, and you may like the UI.

Regarding the GV app being intuitive - it is just a messaging app - messages presented in a sequence. It is intuitive enough. May not be pretty, but worked fine Hangouts is 'prettier' I guess

It works, kinda ugly, but yeah you're right, it does work.

i would rather have a googlified native voicemail app with material design though

 

[jj14x]

It works, kinda ugly, but yeah you're right, it does work.

i would rather have a googlified native voicemail app with material design though

are you referring to GV app? or hangouts app?
(the hangouts app can do the same thing as GV app now, plus it can also do VoIP calling)

 

[jvai]

are you referring to GV app? or hangouts app?
(the hangouts app can do the same thing as GV app now, plus it can also do VoIP calling)

hangouts is da beast -







with mobile number integration, all one needs is a data sim when travelling internationally, & they're good to go.

 

[jvai]

You do realize verizon and att are going to start offering wifi calling in 2015, right?
Thus, they are "caving" into wifi calling. No one saying wifi calling is a bad idea.

I don't have att or verizon as my internet provider and probably never will with their archaic DSL internet. None of that really matters to me.

~sigh~

the thing is, if on Verizon or att, with an android handset or IOS handset with the new gv / hangouts, with mobile number integration, (or not)-

*why wait until 2015 for wifi calling?*

when you basically, already have it..?

 

[jj14x]

*why wait until 2015 for wifi calling?*

when you basically, already have it..?

I suspect they are looking to use their same telephone# (not the GV#)

 

[Bigballer]

~sigh~

the thing is, if on Verizon or att, with an android handset or IOS handset with the new gv / hangouts, with mobile number integration, (or not)-

*why wait until 2015 for wifi calling?*

when you basically, already have it..?

"att / Verizon haven't quite caved by a longshot; the division of spectrum frequencies used by every carrier still hinders phones from being universal, not even talking about the rest of the world, just here in the US alone!"

You're saying that Att/verizon have not caved into wifi calling embedded (not this hangouts nonesense)(hangsouts is nice, but hey, not my number. people arent going to pick up my calls if it's some random cali area code and hangouts does not improve indoor texting. nice feature, not as good as wifi callign any way you put it), yet they're just late to the party, offering it in 2015 to phones. Sprint/tmobile already have wifi calling phones.

Att/verizon have never stated they do not want wifi callign, just late to the party.

Hangouts calling is complementary to calling, it is and never could be an alternative to good old wifi calling. Who the heck is going to pick up a phone call from some random area code? Good for calling walmart, not good for calling anyone who knows your number

 

[jvai]

"att / Verizon haven't quite caved by a longshot; the division of spectrum frequencies used by every carrier still hinders phones from being universal, not even talking about the rest of the world, just here in the US alone!"

You're saying that Att/verizon have not caved into wifi calling embedded (not this hangouts nonesense)(hangsouts is nice, but hey, not my number. people arent going to pick up my calls if it's some random cali area code and hangouts does not improve indoor texting. nice feature, not as good as wifi callign any way you put it), yet they're just late to the party, offering it in 2015 to phones. Sprint/tmobile already have wifi calling phones.

Att/verizon have never stated they do not want wifi calling, just late to the party.

Hangouts calling is complementary to calling, it is and never could be an alternative to good old wifi calling. Who the heck is going to pick up a phone call from some random area code? Good for calling walmart, not good for calling anyone who knows your number

mo, you're saying I'm implying that *Verizon & att, aren't caving in to wifi calling* when I could care non the less;

you injected that in my reply to -

'..Interestingly, I was just reading that as LTE and VoLTE become the norm and carriers repurpose 2G and 3G bandwidth for LTE, we could finally get a world where phones are completely interoperable between all networks (it would be simpler to have a single LTE radio that covers all necessary frequencies, than the current hodge podge of GSM, UMTS, LTE, CDMA radios in a single phone). I imagine if that ever happens, it's a long way off..."

my post was pointingly at the schematics of how att & Verizon would pimp their data channels in the future;

every carrier could have implemented wifi / data calling years ago, via sip, actually VOlte speaks sip at the ims -

The VOLTE “Conversation” Between IMS and LTE - Bob - Expert Opinion - LTE University ..that article is dated 2012..

sprint's implementation of wifi calling still permits the handset to have a cellular connection, you CAN'T place the handset in airplane mode then toggle wifi & utilize the feature, the mobile radio MUST be on, so go figure on that..

I have no idea if it's the same with tmobile, or if it'll be the same with att or Verizon..

but wait, if it's handshaking at the ims (within the cellular infrastructure) , for QoS & bearer info, then yes, the same applies!

embedded vs over the top;

you're saying you won't get the job done until the conditions are right, so you'll wait for the embedded system to fall into place, (nothing wrong with that, at all)

me? I need the job done now, so I'm going to work with what I have in front of me, & make it so -

just for sakes earlier I made 3 business calls to 3 agencies via hangouts on evdo 3g, they never knew the difference, my caller id showed the same -



I've called these same agencies via the new grooveIP / ringto number I have via the same evdo 3g connection, though they didn't recognize the number as *being me* my call was answered, & our conversation blossomed. ( actually, even if it were any foreign number, what difference would it make that the number you were using, if the call behind it were critical?; you may have not had utility to your own phone, & needed another number, *but you got to call* that's the important thing..)


I'm on sprint now with gv integration, for international travel, I know for sure the hangouts "over the top" solution bests those of sprint, & vice versa, the rates calling internationally would be cheaper..

to top that off, the *hangouts nonsense* as you called it, doesn't limit me to just wifi, my phone can have any data connection , hspa+, wcdma (dare I say edge, slap me if I stand corrected), lte, it's the same difference..

the liberation, on the same handset, not sanctioned..

 

[Bigballer]

mo, you're saying I'm implying that *Verizon & att, aren't caving in to wifi calling* when I could care non the less;

you injected that in my reply to -

'..Interestingly, I was just reading that as LTE and VoLTE become the norm and carriers repurpose 2G and 3G bandwidth for LTE, we could finally get a world where phones are completely interoperable between all networks (it would be simpler to have a single LTE radio that covers all necessary frequencies, than the current hodge podge of GSM, UMTS, LTE, CDMA radios in a single phone). I imagine if that ever happens, it's a long way off..."

my post was pointingly at the schematics of how att & Verizon would pimp their data channels in the future;

every carrier could have implemented wifi / data calling years ago, via sip, actually VOlte speaks sip at the ims -

The VOLTE “Conversation” Between IMS and LTE - Bob - Expert Opinion - LTE University ..that article is dated 2012..

sprint's implementation of wifi calling still permits the handset to have a cellular connection, you CAN'T place the handset in airplane mode then toggle wifi & utilize the feature, the mobile radio MUST be on, so go figure on that..

I have no idea if it's the same with tmobile, or if it'll be the same with att or Verizon..

but wait, if it's handshaking at the ims (within the cellular infrastructure) , for QoS & bearer info, then yes, the same applies!

embedded vs over the top;

you're saying you won't get the job done until the conditions are right, so you'll wait for the embedded system to fall into place, (nothing wrong with that, at all)

me? I need the job done now, so I'm going to work with what I have in front of me, & make it so -

just for sakes earlier I made 3 business calls to 3 agencies via hangouts on evdo 3g, they never knew the difference, my caller id showed the same -

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I've called these same agencies via the new grooveIP / ringto number I have via the same evdo 3g connection, though they didn't recognize the number as *being me* my call was answered, & our conversation blossomed. ( actually, even if it were any foreign number, what difference would it make that the number you were using, if the call behind it were critical?; you may have not had utility to your own phone, & needed another number, *but you got to call* that's the important thing..)


I'm on sprint now with gv integration, for international travel, I know for sure the hangouts "over the top" solution bests those of sprint, & vice versa, the rates calling internationally would be cheaper..

to top that off, the *hangouts nonsense* as you called it, doesn't limit me to just wifi, my phone can have any data connection , hspa+, wcdma (dare I say edge, slap me if I stand corrected), lte, it's the same difference..

the liberation, on the same handset, not sanctioned..

Good for callign companies? Sure

Good for calling everyone else? not really

good for texting? nope

 

[jvai]

I suspect they are looking to use their same telephone# (not the GV#)

& they'll wait another step longer for VOlte, because of the same reason;

though the solution was smack in their face,

years back,

when it does arrive, upgrading from an older handset, that they didn't need to upgrade from, to the newer one they were told they needed to for the feature..

that could have been had *on the same older device* that they upgraded from..


politics..

 

[jvai]

Good for callign companies? Sure

Good for calling everyone else? not really

good for texting? nope

I do all three seemlessly..

I've posted screenshots ALREADY, proving it..

 

[jvai]

Disagree, Would Google beta test wifi calling and potentially risk phone calls and text messages with the customer potentially blaming the carrier?

Edit; looks liek christmas came early this year. If the nexus 6 gets it, I see no reason why google wouldn't enable volte and wifi calling on the nexus 5.

T-Mobile working to get its CellSpot Wifi handoff/calling working on next generation ‘Nexus 6′ | 9to5Google

well, here's a link to back you up on this suspicion -

**Multi-Networking, the capability to maintain multiple network connections simultaneously.**

Android "L" Feature Spotlight: Multi-Networking Offers Seamless Network Switching, Easy Wi-Fi Accessories, And More

there's got to be a point within that, with ** "unmetered throughput" ** ..

Multi-networking

One of those invisible, under-the-hood changes is the addition of multi-networking. This allows the Android OS to connect to and maintain multiple simultaneous internet connections of various types. It's been a feature of other operating systems for years, and it's nice to see it coming to Android.

The biggest benefit of this is that your phone won't have to disconnect-and-reconnect between various networks whenever a new connection is needed. For example, if you want to send an MMS over the cellular connection and you're currently connected to WiFi, performance suffers as the phone jumps between connections. If you've ever lost your Wi-Fi connection and had to wait 15 seconds to start getting data over your cellular connection, you know the pain point Google's trying to eliminate here.


http://www.greenbot.com/article/2450111/android-l-features-revealed-networking-improvements.html

mainly for VOlte, calls on 3g, wifi?

if this modular hangouts / gv dialer update is to be taken with some positive foresight, maybe it's google way of incorporating data calling within the OS, smack in our face,

but with android L, it won't be so modular, (whereas we won't even need a separate dialer & making hangouts an optional *also*) .. they're probable in the lab, smoothing this thing over like, jif peanut butter..

 

[Bigballer]

I do all three seemlessly..

I've posted screenshots ALREADY, proving it..

hangouts =/= texting.

hangouts is hangouts

texting is texting

 

[jvai]

hangouts =/= texting.

hangouts is hangouts

texting is texting

plus


hangouts - calling

hangouts - mms

to phone contacts, l'tesha, is an example

"via sms"

http://forums.androidcentral.com/attachments/google-nexus-5/138354d1411661906-nexus-5-likely-see-wi-fi-calling-over-t-mobile-soon-screenshot_2014-09-25-12-16-31.jpg

that was from her cellular number..

~EDIT~

that was before the hangouts update, see the date!

now, after the update, it seamlessly flows (the above example) from hangouts or cellular, same contact)...

or just pure cellular contact, it'll read *google voice* -

 

[jvai]

hangouts =/= texting.

hangouts is hangouts

texting is texting

now your next inquiry should be

"screenshots of you sms'ing, mms'ing, & calling professor, while in airplane mode with wifi on, or you're full o shyat jvai"...


let me get home from work.. lol

 

[tonyr6]

Made a phone call the other day to Capital One bank using Wifi calling on Hangouts. The call was so clear and loud however I was on for 25 minutes and my battery drained 4% much more battery drain then calling on HSPA which may only go down 1% to 2%.

 

[Bigballer]

now your next inquiry should be

"screenshots of you sms'ing, mms'ing, & calling professor, while in airplane mode with wifi on, or you're full o shyat jvai"...


let me get home from work.. lol

aren't you on sprint?

Thought they were the only carrier that allows you to use your "real" phone number as google voice.

 

[jvai]

aren't you on sprint?

Thought they were the only carrier that allows you to use your "real" phone number as google voice.

no, anyone, on any carrier can integrate their number,

it's just back then, it was FREE for sprint subscribers & cost $20 for everyone else.. -

Complete Integration Of Google Voice And 50 Million Sprint Customers, Plus 4G Nexus S | TechCrunch

&

http://lifehacker.com/5783812/google-voice-integrates-with-sprint-to-add-features-without-number-switching

I don't know if it's a cost today, but I know anyone can integrate their number..


I remember staying over my sister's house in west chester pa one weekend..

inside her house, my sprint sig was nil, so I used my laptop, her wifi, & gmail / gv for usage of my service..

I was on a nexus s 4g then, & can attest how the gv / sprint integration worked out..

 

[jvai]

sprint's implementation of wifi calling still permits the handset to have a cellular connection, you CAN'T place the handset in airplane mode then toggle wifi & utilize the feature, the mobile radio MUST be on, so go figure on that..
**I have no idea if it's the same with tmobile, or if it'll be the same with att or Verizon**..
but wait, if it's handshaking at the ims (within the cellular infrastructure) , for QoS & bearer info, then yes, the same applies!

yep, it's the same -

Wifi calling and wifi keeps dropping - Iphone 6

 

[jvai]

the way I see google easily baking all around data calling within android w/o a separate app,

is baking the gv dialer code in the the native dialer code; I don't understand why it's separate.. the gv dialer CAN look up your contacts, but it has no list, you have to type to begin the process,,

& there's no setting in gv dialer to use the native dialer, as in groove IP, as if it wants to stay separate..

& I've even tried to set the native dialer to *for all calls when data network is available* should open the gv dialer, but doesn't..

*only for internet calls* stays dormant..

this is the modularity, I speak of..

 

[Bigballer]

lol, I'd still rather get a dedicated google wifi app if it's just for this one reason alone:

Gogo wifi