Nexus two

[sillyshyme]

I am thinking of either getting this device or another but before I do I just wanted to me safe and make sure that not anytime soon this device get's discounted or something.

When would V2 come out?

 

[icebike]

Nobody knows about a Nexus Two.

Since the N1 had the desired effect of stimulating an entire industry of android phones, there may never be a nexus two. In any event it probably wouldn't arrive till after the Cortex A9 (multi-core) is stable and available, because until that gets into production there is not much new in the hardware side which would warrant a new phone.

 

[Droid800]

Nobody knows about a Nexus Two.

Since the N1 had the desired effect of stimulating an entire industry of android phones, there may never be a nexus two. In any event it probably wouldn't arrive till after the Cortex A9 (multi-core) is stable and available, because until that gets into production there is not much new in the hardware side which would warrant a new phone.

It would have less to do with hardware and more to do with the strategy behind it.

To put it bluntly, the Nexus One has been a failure. The entire retail philosophy behind it has come crashing down, and taken the reasoning behind its existence with it. Even more, the death of the CDMA Nexus One has completely undermined the carrier-independent mission of the sales model. (choose your phone first, then choose your carrier) With the Nexus One switching to brick and mortar sales, Google has no incentive to make a Nexus Two.

(And I would wager quite a few of Google's manufacturing partners were miffed at the way the company handled the entire thing, and the switch to a regular retail model will only reinforce that anger and frustration. )

 

[spazoid86]

Not anytime soon I am sure. N1 just came out and they have bigger plans

 

[RayStinkle]

There will have to be a replacement at some point. Google always needs a developer phone, the one which they write android for and have as the flagship. The g1 started it, and the nexus one took over. Whether its called a nexus 2 is not known, but a new flagship WILL exist at some point.

I think the nexus will remain as the flagship for at least a full year. Next January we can start to look for a replacement. Until then, get the nexus and enjoy direct tie-in with Google.

 

[z0phi3l]

It would have less to do with hardware and more to do with the strategy behind it.

To put it bluntly, the Nexus One has been a failure. The entire retail philosophy behind it has come crashing down, and taken the reasoning behind its existence with it. Even more, the death of the CDMA Nexus One has completely undermined the carrier-independent mission of the sales model. (choose your phone first, then choose your carrier) With the Nexus One switching to brick and mortar sales, Google has no incentive to make a Nexus Two.

(And I would wager quite a few of Google's manufacturing partners were miffed at the way the company handled the entire thing, and the switch to a regular retail model will only reinforce that anger and frustration. )

Love how people claim the N1 is/was a failure, it isn't, it did exactly what Google wanted to do on the hardware side, that their experiment with alternate distribution didn't do well is an aside to the real point of the phone which was to set a benchmark for high end Android phones and pf course to have a kick ass developer phone too

 

[Channan]

All I know is the Nexus Two better be as sexy or sexier than the Nexus One and better have a better freaking multitouch chip!

 

[icebike]

Love how people claim the N1 is/was a failure, it isn't, it did exactly what Google wanted to do on the hardware side, that their experiment with alternate distribution didn't do well is an aside to the real point of the phone which was to set a benchmark for high end Android phones and pf course to have a kick ass developer phone too

That's exactly what I was thinking.

The N1 is a roaring success, held back by half-hearted marketing. So much of a success that Verizon commissioned a straight-out clone for the Incredible.
The only hardware changes they made for things that became available after the N1 was designed and their network.

Further, I don't buy into that nonsense about the carriers being all that upset. If Google and HTC want to create a reference design and prove that it works why should they care. They still set phone plans with none of the warranty worries.

Still I'm not sure Google will sell a Nexus TWO. I hope they do, but they may not need to do that anymore.

I hope they change their mind about discontinuing on-line sales. I don't want to deal with some clowns at Car Toys or Best Buy who exhaust their technical knowledge as soon as they tell me the price.

 

[Droid800]

Love how people claim the N1 is/was a failure, it isn't, it did exactly what Google wanted to do on the hardware side, that their experiment with alternate distribution didn't do well is an aside to the real point of the phone which was to set a benchmark for high end Android phones and pf course to have a kick ass developer phone too

Based on Google's own goals for the platform, the Nexus One has been a failure.

I hear people crow about the hardware setting a benchmark, but lets get real people; phone hardware doesn't just appear over night. All of the high-end phones we're seeing out would have been in development with or without the Nexus One being released.

 

[icebike]

Based on Google's own goals for the platform, the Nexus One has been a failure.

I hear people crow about the hardware setting a benchmark, but lets get real people; phone hardware doesn't just appear over night. All of the high-end phones we're seeing out would have been in development with or without the Nexus One being released.

The HTC phones are a direct offshoot of the design funded by Google. HTC was always a small boutique builder, how many phones have they built from parts of the Google design?

Google MADE HTC.

 

[Droid800]

The HTC phones are a direct offshoot of the design funded by Google. HTC was always a small boutique builder, how many phones have they built from parts of the Google design?

Google MADE HTC.

Seriously? What made HTC was Windows Mobile. Android has helped them expand, sure, but they were NOT a 'boutique' builder before it.

 

[applejosh]

I believe HTC also did some Palm hardware. They've been around the block. They just don't make headlines like HP, etc., because a lot of their wares were relabeled for so long.

 

[icebike]

Seriously? What made HTC was Windows Mobile. Android has helped them expand, sure, but they were NOT a 'boutique' builder before it.

Like i said Boutique builder. All 134 windows mobile users have no clue who built their devices.

 

[Droid800]

Like i said Boutique builder. All 134 windows mobile users have no clue who built their devices.

That's just plain ignorance right there. Before Android, and before iPhone, the smartphone market was DOMINATED by Windows Mobile and Palm. You want to know who the biggest manufacturer of those devices was? HTC.

It doesn't matter if the customers knew; what matters is that HTC built them.

 

[Duvi]

The Google Store is what Google admitted to not selling how they wanted it to, but aside from that, the N1 was a success.

The N1 IMHO, is the first time since the 2G was released where a lot aren't just looking at the iPhone and comparing them to every new device. When the the Desire was being released, it was being compared to the N1 more so than the iPhone.

To me, that is success.

 

[KCphotog]

Seriously? What made HTC was Windows Mobile. Android has helped them expand, sure, but they were NOT a 'boutique' builder before it.

I agree! Its sad that some can get their head so twisted up in half wit thinking. Sadder to pass it on to others and actually believe what they are saying.

 

[swebb]

Google MADE HTC.

Gotta disagree. HTC has done well with Windows mobile. What about the Touch and TP2 on Sprint? Worldwide they have many phones on GSM. HD2 on T-Mobile (domestic) is the basis for the Sprint EVO.

I agree that embracing Android (which is not the same as Google) will propel HTC further but they were pretty strong pre-Android. Their partnership with Google on the N1 was definitely a failure but it was a marketing (Google) not a hardware failure.

Like i said Boutique builder. All 134 windows mobile users have no clue who built their devices.

Boutique means limited, targeted builds. HTC manufacturing millions of WM phones with carrier labeling is private branding. There is a huge difference between the two.

 

[ikshaar]

Even more, the death of the CDMA Nexus One has completely undermined the carrier-independent mission of the sales model.

Remember that CDMA is pretty much a US anomaly (and of only 2 carriers). From a global point of view, developing a CDMA phone was not worth it anyway.

 

[88 FLUX]

i'm retarded

Google, in no way, made HTC. HTC was doing mighty fine in their field waaaaaaaaaaaaay before Android was even a hair on its mother's nipple.

icebike, in your case, ignorance is NOT bliss. In fact, when almost every other hardware manufacturer has had their up and down spikes and almost lost it all (**cough cough Motorola cough cough**), HTC continuously reigned supreme in what they were doing. The only difference is that they didn't advertise their brand. In fact, there was no HTC brand as far as the general consumers were concerned. Instead, they built the amazing hardware that many other manufacturers released under their name.

To give just one example of many, why do you think the Siemens SX66, PDA2K, and MDA III all looked so similar? Oh wait, they were. They were all the HTC Blue Angel.

HTC isn't some new company just getting into the game and relying on Google to keep them going. In fact, when it comes to wireless hardware and design, they are nothing short of revolutionary.

Get your facts straight and do a little bit of research before coming on here and sounding like a complete chode.

 

[icebike]

Are you people all hard of reading or what?

Boutique builder means they built small numbers of devices for a variety of specialized markets.

Read my lips: There WAS NO smartphone market prior to the iPhone.

Yes, I'm fully aware there were smart phones prior to the iPhone. Just no market.

The numbers of total handsets was vanishingly small. There was a tiny tiny segment of the cell-phone industry that was interested in smartphones. There was no meaningful market. The numbers were tiny.

When Google came around and released Android there was at long last an OS that this company could sell directly which was actually competitive. No longer tied to Microsoft for their single largest (although still microscopic) market share, they could come out of the shadows.

Without Android, without google, HTC would sill be building the Blue Angel.

Now if you are all done thumping your tiny chests, I reiterate my statement:

The HTC phones are a direct offshoot of the design funded by Google. HTC was always a small boutique builder, how many phones have they built from parts of the Google design?

Google MADE HTC.

Go ahead. Run the numbers. Read the corporate balance sheets. Tally up the sales figures. Prove me wrong.
You can't. Because in your pathetic world view, 16 companies selling the same rebranded device constitutes a market. Nothing can be further from the truth.