Nicer screen on Galaxy 10.1 compared to Xoom?

[Air Force One]

Was just watching this video:http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-inch-gets-thorough-hands-france


I cannot help but notice the screen looks like it has better colors and has more "pop" or contrast to it.

I've never owned a Samsung product but if they can produce a better looking screen I might just have to give this thing a try. I'm not bashing the Xoom(I own one) I have just been somewhat underwhelmed by the Xoom's screen. It looks dim and seems to lack nice colors and contrast, imo.

The Xoom's colors might be more accurate, but I'd rather have more pop in them personally. Hopefully this tab can deliver a better screen.

 

[E_man]

You can't really judge a screen on a video. There are way to many variables at that point.

 

[Air Force One]

You can't really judge a screen on a video. There are way to many variables at that point.

Oh I agree, but you can get an idea at times. An example: the Thunderbolt. During a hands on video I noticed what looked like warm vibrant colors and the reviewer then mentioned the warm colors, so what I was seeing was real. So you can get an "idea" *sometimes*.

That said, you're right, I won't be giving up my Xoom based on one video.

Would really be happy to see one of the manufacturers come out with a very bright contrasty screen. If not Sammy maybe HTC.

 

[E_man]

You are probably right. They have samsungs PLS display technology which Samsung claims to be the next step after IPS in professional display technology. These arethe first commercial devices to have it to my knowledge, but I assume they will be awesome.

 

[jerrykur]

The Xoom's colors might be more accurate, but I'd rather have more pop in them personally. Hopefully this tab can deliver a better screen.

Since I am a photgrapher I want more accurate and true colors. Over saturated colors make images and videos look fake and would be a reason for me not to select a tablet. I pay big money for IPS display and color calibration on my desktop system.

 

[Air Force One]

Since I am a photgrapher I want more accurate and true colors. Over saturated colors make images and videos look fake and would be a reason for me not to select a tablet. I pay big money for IPS display and color calibration on my desktop system.

Yeah I've got a home theater rig that is completely ISF calibrated, but on my tablet...I'll take saturated colors and a brighter display. Accurate and true in regards to picture quality on a tablet is an oxymoron anyway. You cannot achieve true quality on a screen that comes in a device that cost $800. Be that the Xoom OR the Sammy 10.1. So you can talk true and accurate screen all day long but if you were truly wanting that in a tablet you wouldn't even have a tablet because that tablet has not been made yet and probably won't for quite some time.

 

[E_man]

You cannot achieve true quality on a screen that comes in a device that cost $800.

Yes you can.

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The screen on the left is far larger than the one on the right. The one on the left can be had for $250 for a completely professional grade display. Moving up from 22" to 24" almost doubles the price. Moving down to 10.1" is really going to cut the price down. The iPad has such a display, if they would calibrate it for realism rather than pop. The samsung tablets probably will be in the same boat.

I use my IPS panels all the time, and the true color is important to me. To say such a thing can't come to tablets is strange. It most certainly can.

 

[jerrykur]

It most certainly can.

I agree. And if one wants to use a tablet for things like portfolio viewing it is a buying criteria. No wants to lose a wedding job because their work looks like everyone had a bad spray tan due to a tablet's poor display.

 

[Air Force One]

Yes you can.

TV Calculator

The screen on the left is far larger than the one on the right. The one on the left can be had for $250 for a completely professional grade display. Moving up from 22" to 24" almost doubles the price. Moving down to 10.1" is really going to cut the price down. The iPad has such a display, if they would calibrate it for realism rather than pop. The samsung tablets probably will be in the same boat.

I use my IPS panels all the time, and the true color is important to me. To say such a thing can't come to tablets is strange. It most certainly can.

We just have different standards for what we call true and accurate.

None of these tablets have good enough black levels at which you can call anything they produce "true and accurate", not by a long shot.

 

[E_man]

We just have different standards for what we call true and accurate.

None of these tablets have good enough black levels at which you can call anything they produce "true and accurate", not by a long shot.

The iPad has better black levels than the dell u2410 and similiar to the apple cinema displays. Both are professional level photo/video displays. What are you talking about? The XOOM display isn't there, but it can be done.

 

[Air Force One]

The iPad has better black levels than the dell u2410 and similiar to the apple cinema displays. Both are professional level photo/video displays. What are you talking about? The XOOM display isn't there, but it can be done.

Like I said, we just have different opinions on what true and accurate means. I said true and accurate cannot be achieved on a tablet, you disagree. For me true and accurate can only be achieved on a high end projector or plasma, ISF calibrated.

So what I'm talking about is like I said: speaking of true and accurate in terms of tablet PQ is simply an oxymoron.

I can look at a tablet screen and can say that looks nice and pleasing and that one doesn't, but NONE of them are accurate to the source in any way.

My original post was that the Sammy looks better than the Xoom.

 

[Air Force One]

FWIW, if you really want to scratch the surface of true and accurate displays that are true to the source, this is a good place to start:

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I'd forget Apple products...or Motorola, or HTC. Samsung? Give me AMOLED, OLED display larger than a phone and we can talk. I believe there is one out there I forget right now(or at least produced at one point)

 

[Air Force One]

I'm afraid that with this new thinner 10.1 that the screen is going to suffer

 

[htowngator]

super PLS screens

better than the IPS that Apple uses

 

[E_man]

Like I said, we just have different opinions on what true and accurate means. I said true and accurate cannot be achieved on a tablet, you disagree. For me true and accurate can only be achieved on a high end projector or plasma, ISF calibrated.

So what I'm talking about is like I said: speaking of true and accurate in terms of tablet PQ is simply an oxymoron.

I can look at a tablet screen and can say that looks nice and pleasing and that one doesn't, but NONE of them are accurate to the source in any way.

My original post was that the Sammy looks better than the Xoom.

Projectors tend to have lesser picture quality (and horrible blacks), plasma's usually aren't true color either. IPS (and most likely PLS) are where high quality color is going to be found. There is a reason that if you walk into any high end photo/video editors station, they aren't using projectors or plasma displays. They use IPS panels. The difference between the iPads IPS panel and these professional displays are calibration. No reason other tablets can't do the same either.

super PLS screens

better than the IPS that Apple uses

There is that potential, yes.

 

[Air Force One]

Projectors tend to have lesser picture quality (and horrible blacks)

First you mention the iPad in the same sentence as black levels, which is laughable, then you proceed to claim projectors have horrible black levels. First of all the G90 CRT projector has some of the best black levels you can get(it is vintage but many STILL use it). Second of all projectors(Qualia 004 for example) have come a long way since the G90(not as far as I would like, but certainly better than the ...cough...iPad.) and can at least achieve true blacker than black, which no tablet can claim. Why don't you go here and argue that the iPad has black levels to speak of and that projector black levels are horrible and have lesser PQ :O

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I mean, why would you even mention the iPad in relation to black levels if you think projectors are horrible at black levels??? Anyway that's rhetorical because if you would even claim projectors have horrible black levels then there is no use discussing this with you.

The iPad has better black levels

The iPad has #$&@ for black levels and so does every other tablet until a mainstream AMOLED/OLED device is released

There is a reason that if you walk into any high end photo/video editors station

You wouldn't know high end if it jumped up and bit you

 

[htowngator]

There is that potential, yes.

What do you mean? It will be super PLS -- they stated it in the press conference.

10% brighter and even better viewing angles than standard IPS. Apple wanted to use it in the ipad 2.

 

[E_man]

First you mention the iPad in the same sentence as black levels, which is laughable, then you proceed to claim projectors have horrible black levels. First of all the G90 CRT projector has some of the best black levels you can get(it is vintage but many STILL use it). Second of all projectors(Qualia 004 for example) have come a long way since the G90(not as far as I would like, but certainly better than the ...cough...iPad.) and can at least achieve true blacker than black, which no tablet can claim. Why don't you go here and argue that the iPad has black levels to speak of and that projector black levels are horrible and have lesser PQ :O

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I mean, why would you even mention the iPad in relation to black levels if you think projectors are horrible at black levels??? Anyway that's rhetorical because if you would even claim projectors have horrible black levels then there is no use discussing this with you.



The iPad has #$&@ for black levels and so does every other tablet until a mainstream AMOLED/OLED device is released



You wouldn't know high end if it jumped up and bit you

Your entire post is pathetic. I use a highly color controlled environment as I work in an ad development group. You have 0 clue what you are talking about. You are defending purchases obviously, I am not. I own neither projectors nor iPads. I do use projectors regularly however (for non color work), and have been with many people who own iPads. No comparison. Do you even know how projectors work? The black can only be as dark as the WHITE panel you are projecting it on to, with light that isn't completely blocked, ambient light, and you obviously can't project negative light. If you want blacks, LCD's are better than

You obviously wouldn't know high end if it jumped on you and bit you. You would know how do irrationally defend a purchase though. Good job.

What do you mean? It will be super PLS -- they stated it in the press conference.

10% brighter and even better viewing angles than standard IPS. Apple wanted to use it in the ipad 2.

Depends. It can do all that in theory. Will Samsung put a high end PLS, or some cheap PLS. It's the same thing with IPS and *VA. IPS is usually the superior tech, but a high end panel with a *VA panel will beat a low end IPS panel.

I would assume Samsung will use a high end PLS panel, but I'm not going to call it for sure.