For some reason these smartphone manufactures only care about paying attention to making the camera better. The camera on the Note 10+ is just fine. I seriously could care less about getting a better camera on my phone. Since a couple years ago the cameras on these phones have been just fine for most of us. Obviously if you are really into picture taking or an artist, you'd have a real camera and not use your phone. There really isn't much more Samsung can do as in technology wise since they've pretty much peaked. Stick more memory in it, upgrade the processor. That's about it. I would never give up my Note 10+ for an S20 anything. There is just no reason. If you have to just have the latest and greatest and money is no concern then go for it. The basic R&D on these phones have been paid for over and over. Samsung is just increasing the specs, that's all and then charging an extremely load of money for a phone that cost about $200 to make. Not even sure why I have the Note+ I don't even use the pen. I did read that the S20 Ultra has a real nice screen.