On my last thread with Android

[deltaTgm]

No question iPhone holds value better. If that's what you are wanting then yes.

 

[Morty2264]

No question iPhone holds value better. If that's what you are wanting then yes.

I would say that they do, but not just because of their brand/brand appeal. An iPhone XS Max, with 64 GB, retails for approximately $1550 CAD. If you resell your used iPhone then the price drops by 50% at the minimum - that means it'll be at least $775. The Samsung Galaxy S10 retails for $1080 CAD. Cut that in half to resell your used device and that's $540.

It's crazy how expensive things are getting! And since iPhone devices seem to be among the most expensive smartphone products on the market, objectively, they hold value better.

 

[Lew MUrray]

But buying something that functions well and also holds its value is even better.

Did you ever hear of "the law of diminishing returns"? I can buy an Android tablet for $150 that performs EVERY function that I want or need. Why should I pay several times that for something I don't need or want? I certainly don't need or want the "snob appeal" that appears to be Apple's main selling point.

 

[Ry]

I would say that they do, but not just because of their brand/brand appeal. An iPhone XS Max, with 64 GB, retails for approximately $1550 CAD. If you resell your used iPhone then the price drops by 50% at the minimum - that means it'll be at least $775. The Samsung Galaxy S10 retails for $1080 CAD. Cut that in half to resell your used device and that's $540.

It's crazy how expensive things are getting! And since iPhone devices seem to be among the most expensive smartphone products on the market, objectively, they hold value better.

Apple devices "last" longer as well. They're supported way longer.

The iPhone 6S was released in September 2015. You can use a 6S in August of 2019 and it'll be perfectly fine.

I wouldn't touch a Nexus 5X and 6P in 2019.

I wouldn't touch a Galaxy S6 and Note 5 in 2019.

You can likely use that iPhone 6S through 2020 - at least maybe up until the iOS 14 release, and it'll be fine.

 

[Ry]

Did you ever hear of "the law of diminishing returns"? I can buy an Android tablet for $150 that performs EVERY function that I want or need. Why should I pay several times that for something I don't need or want? I certainly don't need or want the "snob appeal" that appears to be Apple's main selling point.

Snob appeal?

 

[Lew MUrray]

Snob appeal?

Of course, snob appeal. "Mine's bigger and better than yours. So there!!" Same people that pay a fortune for blue jeans with a designer label. Of course, I lump people who buy the latest Samsung phone in the same category.

 

[anon(50597)]

Did you ever hear of "the law of diminishing returns"? I can buy an Android tablet for $150 that performs EVERY function that I want or need. Why should I pay several times that for something I don't need or want? I certainly don't need or want the "snob appeal" that appears to be Apple's main selling point.

Snob appeal? Haha!
You certainly should not buy something you don’t want or need. As far as the snob appeal I think you’re exaggerating just a bit.

 

[anon(50597)]

Snob appeal?

Hilarious, isn’t it? Apparently everyone who uses an iPhone is a snob. Interesting view of the world.

 

[Ry]

Hilarious, isn’t it? Apparently everyone who uses an iPhone is a snob. Interesting view of the world.

It's like a Napoleon complex

 

[Golurk]

Apple devices "last" longer as well. They're supported way longer.

The iPhone 6S was released in September 2015. You can use a 6S in August of 2019 and it'll be perfectly fine.

I wouldn't touch a Nexus 5X and 6P in 2019.

I wouldn't touch a Galaxy S6 and Note 5 in 2019.

You can likely use that iPhone 6S through 2020 - at least maybe up until the iOS 14 release, and it'll be fine.

BUT because Android phones (flagships like the OP7, S10, P30 Pro etc) generally have better hardware than their Apple rival, it means that their features will still be considered top-tier and/or equal a year later compared to their iPhone counterpart (e.g Samsung Note 9/P20 Pro vs iPhone XS Max)

 

[Morty2264]

Apple devices "last" longer as well. They're supported way longer.

The iPhone 6S was released in September 2015. You can use a 6S in August of 2019 and it'll be perfectly fine.

I wouldn't touch a Nexus 5X and 6P in 2019.

I wouldn't touch a Galaxy S6 and Note 5 in 2019.

You can likely use that iPhone 6S through 2020 - at least maybe up until the iOS 14 release, and it'll be fine.

You do have a good point. iOS sticks by their products for longer periods of time. Android really needs to step it up in that department. I like how Google is working on doing better in that regard.

Just a random theory: I wonder if iPhone users keep their phones - since they do retain their value well, they do last longer, they're a more straightforward OS and so they're not really looking for a change, etc - longer than Android users keep their Android devices? I upgrade every 14-18 months on average, because I enjoy a new experience. Just a random thought. Both methods are pretty awesome, though. My in-laws and husband's extended family keep their iPhones for quite some time and I have co-workers who have kept their current iPhones for a long time, as well.

 

[anon(50597)]

Just a random theory: I wonder if iPhone users keep their phones - since they do retain their value well, they do last longer, they're a more straightforward OS and so they're not really looking for a change, etc - longer than Android users keep their Android devices? I upgrade every 14-18 months on average, because I enjoy a new experience. Just a random thought. Both methods are pretty awesome, though. My in-laws and husband's extended family keep their iPhones for quite some time and I have co-workers who have kept their current iPhones for a long time, as well.

That is a good thought. Is that true overall or just people like us though? I know Android users who keep their devices until they no longer work. Most of them don’t understand about updates.

 

[Morty2264]

That is a good thought. Is that true overall or just people like us though? I know Android users who keep their devices until they no longer work. Most of them don’t understand about updates.

Yup, that's true. My mom's Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge still works really well - she just isn't interested in a new phone for the moment. Maybe it's moreso the phone enthusiasts who switch up often? It's hard to tell. AC is a very skewed sample size in terms of phone addicts/new users.

 

[anon(50597)]

Yup, that's true. My mom's Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge still works really well - she just isn't interested in a new phone for the moment. Maybe it's moreso the phone enthusiasts who switch up often? It's hard to tell. AC is a very skewed sample size in terms of phone addicts/new users.

It is hard to tell these things, whether on here or any of the Mobilenations sites. We have to remember that the majority of people don’t think like us. LOL.

 

[Mooncatt]

You do have a good point. iOS sticks by their products for longer periods of time. Android really needs to step it up in that department. I like how Google is working on doing better in that regard.

That's easy to do when you have a small number of devices to support and everything is done in-house. Android is something like the wild west with how many difference manufacturers and devices are out there. Be it phones, tablets, and otherwise (I once had a SiriusXM radio tuner that was built on Android, even though it was skinned so you'd never know). Every one of those devices need their own OS adaptations to function properly, making for an exponentially large number of devices needing development teams to keep up to date longer.

 

[Ry]

You do have a good point. iOS sticks by their products for longer periods of time. Android really needs to step it up in that department. I like how Google is working on doing better in that regard.

Just a random theory: I wonder if iPhone users keep their phones - since they do retain their value well, they do last longer, they're a more straightforward OS and so they're not really looking for a change, etc - longer than Android users keep their Android devices? I upgrade every 14-18 months on average, because I enjoy a new experience. Just a random thought. Both methods are pretty awesome, though. My in-laws and husband's extended family keep their iPhones for quite some time and I have co-workers who have kept their current iPhones for a long time, as well.

My parents finally upgraded from their iPhones 6 from 2014 to iPhones XR in 2018. 4-5 year upgrade cycles feel more common with iPhones (and their numbers show it).

 

[Golurk]

My parents finally upgraded from their iPhones 6 from 2014 to iPhones XR in 2018. 4-5 year upgrade cycles feel more common with iPhones (and their numbers show it).

Nearly my family uses iPhones (only two Android users with an S7 Edge and Pocophone F1) and they used to upgrade every year. That was when Android was awful in software and hardware and Apple was way ahead and constantly innovating (e.g iPhone 4 -> 5s -> 6s ->7 Plus). Now, they have iPhones which are only 1-2 years old but don’t plan on upgrading for another 2-3 years.

 

[Morty2264]

It is hard to tell these things, whether on here or any of the Mobilenations sites. We have to remember that the majority of people don’t think like us. LOL.

Oh, absolutely! We are a very skewed sample size, indeed!

 

[Morty2264]

That's easy to do when you have a small number of devices to support and everything is done in-house. Android is something like the wild west with how many difference manufacturers and devices are out there. Be it phones, tablets, and otherwise (I once had a SiriusXM radio tuner that was built on Android, even though it was skinned so you'd never know). Every one of those devices need their own OS adaptations to function properly, making for an exponentially large number of devices needing development teams to keep up to date longer.

You have a very good point. I don't know much about the OS/development side of smartphones and smartphone manufacturers, so I do appreciate your insight! It would be very difficult for Android to keep track of/support *all* of its devices the way iOS/Apple does.

 

[methodman89]

Apple now for the first time makes the majority of their money on services. It used to be phones, obviously.
Charging 2000 to fix a computer which cost 1500 new, while lying about whether or not the data could be saved, and it's a monitor ribbon cable that cost 2 bucks and 10 minutes to fix at the genius bar (that is rather snobby) which is all that's wrong, is a bad company.
Installing liquid damage 'sensors' which are nothing more than a reactant on plastic that normal Florida humidity activates and denying any problems that come along due to 'water damage'.
Apple is a shady, tax dodging, pay the worker the least possible, charge as much as possible, make it so you can't fix it yourself shell of the company it started out to be.
Knowingly choosing products made by coerced labor, when alternatives exist, imo, is wrong and rectifiable.
And its os is bland and dongled as all get out.