On my last thread with Android

[B. Diddy]

I am a big android enthusiast but lately, I have realized that most of the freedom available on android devices, I really do not need it and I am leaning towards getting an I Phone, I feel like they have a better resale value than Androids and a much more friendly user experience, is that true?

Aren't you an Android developer? Are you thinking of developing for iOS instead?

Oh, and again, hope your face is doing ok.

 

[chanchan05]

Supply and demand.
iPhone release 2-3 models a year. There are literally hundreds of Android models launched a year. If you are looking for a new iPhone, but a current flagship is too expensive for you, for an iPhone you have the option of getting an iPhone 8 or a 7 series. Nothing else.
On Android using Samsung as an example, you find yourself unable to afford a current S10. Sure you have the option of last the Galaxy S9, or maybe the S8 series. But wait, you also see you have the option of a Galaxy A50. It's cheaper than a S9+, has a bigger battery, has 3 cameras instead of 2, the performance is between a Galaxy S7 and S8 (which means it's perfectly serviceable) and will carry a longer update cycle since it's launched later. So why would you again buy last year's flagship? Hence, value drop. And we're not yet even talking about the options of Pixel A, RedMi Note, Huawei P Lite, or Motorola G Power devices. Or even an alternative flagship-level device that's cheaper, like the Zenphone 6 or OP7.
I don't resell my devices. I keep them in a drawer, with maybe one of them as an Authy backup or secondary devices to pull out as needed or for hand me downs.(I turn off Multidevice after setting up my devices. It's a whole 'nother convo and Authy actually recommends doing that).

 

[Kayza]

Resale value is only important if you intend to change phones fairly often. Like when we bought our car, we ignored resale value because we tend to keep our cars till they are old enough that resale is going to be a non-issue (last car was over 10 years old - at that point NO car is going to be worth much.) Same with phones. If you want to switch phones every year or two you want to get a phone that is either not so expensive or that will hold resale value. If you want hang on to your phones for 3-4 years it just doesn't matter as much. The resale value on an iphone in good condition is probably going to be higher, but not high enough that it makes sense to make that your deciding point.

As for friendlier experience, I think that that's a matter of taste. There is not objective "truth" on this one.

 

[N4Newbie]

1. Resale value should be viewed as a percentage of original cost. I'm not going to bother with the research, but what did an iPhone 7 cost compared to the V20, three years ago?

2. I believe that, in general, AppStore apps are more expensive than their equivalent PlayStore apps. But, again, I haven't thoroughly researched.

 

[technomom]

Until I can do the same kind of customization on iPhone that I can do with my Android phones with Nova Launcher, and until iOS can provide the intents system at the deep level of Android, I'll be on Android. At this point, it's not even close.

That said, I do use the iPad because for tablet use, I don't need that much customization. Tablets are mainly for reading and viewing video. I'm generally not doing email, content creation or communicating with people from there.

 

[john_v]

I've used both iOS and Android, and personal preference is Android, plain and simple. The only reason I would ever switch to iPhone is for the health app. I have yet to find (and maybe it is out there) an android app that will let me track blood pressure, blood sugar, and other health related things all in one. When I used the health app previously on iOS, it would pull in my blood sugar readings from a separate app which was nice.

But that one thing hasn't made me switch yet.

OP, my suggestion, find a used iPhone for cheap on Swappa. Play with it, use it as an everyday carry for awhile, and if you like it, then you can upgrade. If you don't like it, resell it on Swappa and you aren't out very much money.

Just my $.02...

 

[chanchan05]

blood pressure, blood sugar, and other health related things all in one.

Samsung Health has had tracking for those since at least 2013.

 

[cajunrph]

Regarding resale value, iPhones are more expensive to start off with for the most part therefore their resale value is higher. And unless you hold yourself to selling the old phone then it doesn't matter. I've said often I'd sell my old phone to off set the new one and it never happened.

I've switched back and forth over the years. Each time iOS has gotten closer to the functionality of Android. Yet I was pulled away but the restrictive nature of iOS. I don't want anyone telling me what to do with something I paid my hard earned money for. Many don't want to customize the device, and iOS is better for that. One thing about iOS vs Android is the way the apps are displayed. iPhones have all the apps on the various screen's. With Android I can display which apps o want on my home screen, the rest being in an app tray. I find my Android phone is less cluttered. On iOS I've used the search function to find an app vs scrolling across screen's trying to pick it out among all the apps on the page. I know you can combine apps into folder. But that's customizing isn't it? Why deal with a limited customizing option when a device just as good offers better ways. While I'm in the minority as an Android user in my sphere of family and friends, I don't need the little blue circle to make me happy. There's other messaging apps out there that work just the same. Getting everyone to use those is the issue. But it can be done.

 

[Vega007]

I am a big android enthusiast but lately, I have realized that most of the freedom available on android devices, I really do not need it and I am leaning towards getting an I Phone, I feel like they have a better resale value than Androids and a much more friendly user experience, is that true?

I think everyone has pretty much nailed down the resale value question for you. As for a "Friendly experience", in my opinion, Android has gotten a lot better with this and I find both OS to be intuitive enough. One thing that has always irked me about my iPhone is their Settings section - it is crammed and you can really get lost in there sometimes lol. But on the flip side, if you have other Apple products, using an iPhone along with them is really cool and they talk to each other fluidly.

So yeah, I used to be Android enthusiast, buying new Android phones every other month because there was always a "next big thing". I finally was able to curb that by going to iPhone and I am happier for it. I was like you in that I didn't really care anymore about all the customization I could on Android anymore - perhaps due to me just getting older. But I still like to keep up with Android by coming to these forums, reading the news, etc, so you don't have to completely cut ties to Android if you don't want to and you can always go back.

 

[john_v]

Samsung Health has had tracking for those since at least 2013.

It's probably been at least that long since I used a Samsung so I was not aware of that. Thanks for the suggestion,will check it out

 

[ptkelly]

I suppose you'd like to see the numbers on the original assertion of maintaining value, too. Paying $400 more and having a $25 higher resale value doesn't mean much. For me it's a moot point. In 1980, I discovered Apples goal was to have absolute control over the hardware, software, and user. I've bought nothing from them since except a horribly over-priced USB A to USB C adapter in an emergency.

I've been happy with Android and don't have to pay a premium for the phone and accessories.

"Friendly" has never been what I associated with Apple.

 

[Ocnlvr83]

I am a big android enthusiast but lately, I have realized that most of the freedom available on android devices, I really do not need it and I am leaning towards getting an I Phone, I feel like they have a better resale value than Androids and a much more friendly user experience, is that true?

I went from an iPhone to Android last year, and I regret it. With an iPhone (or least when I had one, things might have changed) I can customize my vibration--I can't do that with Android. For me, I feel iPhone ringtones are loud on their highest settings, whereas I cannot hear my phone in malls or my bathroom. Plus, my family is more likely to text me, since they're all on iPhones and hate the green sms message bubbles.

 

[Godwine]

I'm a Nigerian and from my everyday experience, most of the folks here use Android smartphones. That's not to say that there aren't iPhone users but their Android counterparts outnumber them 10-to-almost nothing.

And why's that?

Very few people know the incentric value of an iPhone, not in build quality this time, but in the services rendered. Most folks I see using an iPhone don't even use Apple Music, they hardly work with App Store, and they don't even know Siri! (Like who uses an iPhone and will not know Siri *)

But on the Android side of things (even though not all Google Play Services are enabled in this region), everybody is very familiar with Google Play Store, everyone uses Google Suite of apps and even are beginning to become too accustomed to Google Assistant.

My point is this; here, iOS is basically a show of fancy, an advertisement of class, for majority of its users. The real "useable" functionality lies with Android. This is not to say there aren't iOS faithfuls, but putting them side-by-side with their Google-pledged rivals, the numbers speak for themselves.

Personally, I'm an Android fanboy (stock Android, to be precise) and even though I respect (and secretly envy the Apple ecosystem), I really don't see myself making the switch anytime soon (especially as Apple Music is available for Android users). What more would make me switch?*

PS: You guys at Android Central are really inspiring. Been following since 2016. Kudos to y'all

 

[WontonSoup]

I absolutely have just recently, went to an Apple store this past Friday and held my Pixel 3 and the XS side by side and it staved off my decision, plus the price of jumping to a new iPhone while trying to sell my Pixel 3 is something I don't want to deal with. I haven't owned an iPhone since the very first one and I'm interested to see how it would fit with me now but I don't think I'll ever actually jump unless I were to come into a large sum of disposable income.

 

[WontonSoup]

I wish Android could get it together and come out with a nice small tablet. I miss the Nexus 7, and I don't want to buy an iPad mini again to "compliment" my Pixel 3.

 

[WontonSoup]

I'm a Nigerian and from my everyday experience, most of the folks here use Android smartphones. That's not to say that there aren't iPhone users but their Android counterparts outnumber them 10-to-almost nothing.

And why's that?

Very few people know the incentric value of an iPhone, not in build quality this time, but in the services rendered. Most folks I see using an iPhone don't even use Apple Music, they hardly work with App Store, and they don't even know Siri! ?????? (Like who uses an iPhone and will not know Siri ????????????*)

But on the Android side of things (even though not all Google Play Services are enabled in this region), everybody is very familiar with Google Play Store, everyone uses Google Suite of apps and even are beginning to become too accustomed to Google Assistant.

My point is this; here, iOS is basically a show of fancy, an advertisement of class, for majority of its users. The real "useable" functionality lies with Android. This is not to say there aren't iOS faithfuls, but putting them side-by-side with their Google-pledged rivals, the numbers speak for themselves.

Personally, I'm an Android fanboy (stock Android, to be precise) and even though I respect (and secretly envy the Apple ecosystem), I really don't see myself making the switch anytime soon (especially as Apple Music is available for Android users). What more would make me switch?????????????*

PS: You guys at Android Central are really inspiring. Been following since 2016. Kudos to y'all ????????????

You make a good point about the services part of iPhone, most people I know that have an iPhone barely use things like Siri or any of it's other advanced functionality, I have 1 friend that does out of the few that own them, only 1. He doesn't use Apple Music but he does use things like Siri, knows about the app permissions and sets them like that etc, so when a new iOS beta comes out I can actually ask him what's new and get meaningful information.

 

[curley]

I wont switch. my daughter has an iPad mini, like a 2st gen, but now since it's stuck in iOS 9.? I cannot get Pandora or Netflix to load anymore. my HTC one m8 can get all those apps anytime I want. Apple makes it so you have to upgrade, even if the device works perfectly fine.

 

[Morty2264]

I would say "yes" to them retaining much of their value. When you think about it, the latest iPhone is at least $1300+ CAD. So when you sell that same model, it's already at $750 and if it's in good condition, you could even get $900 for it. And people will buy iPhones, so you could maybe even get $1000 if you throw in your iPhone, chargers, headphones, accessories, cases, etc They definitely hold their value well. But they start off at a pretty exorbitant price to begin with, and I think that has something to do with it.

 

[anon(50597)]

I'm a Nigerian and from my everyday experience, most of the folks here use Android smartphones. That's not to say that there aren't iPhone users but their Android counterparts outnumber them 10-to-almost nothing.

And why's that?

Very few people know the incentric value of an iPhone, not in build quality this time, but in the services rendered. Most folks I see using an iPhone don't even use Apple Music, they hardly work with App Store, and they don't even know Siri! (Like who uses an iPhone and will not know Siri *)

But on the Android side of things (even though not all Google Play Services are enabled in this region), everybody is very familiar with Google Play Store, everyone uses Google Suite of apps and even are beginning to become too accustomed to Google Assistant.

My point is this; here, iOS is basically a show of fancy, an advertisement of class, for majority of its users. The real "useable" functionality lies with Android. This is not to say there aren't iOS faithfuls, but putting them side-by-side with their Google-pledged rivals, the numbers speak for themselves.

Personally, I'm an Android fanboy (stock Android, to be precise) and even though I respect (and secretly envy the Apple ecosystem), I really don't see myself making the switch anytime soon (especially as Apple Music is available for Android users). What more would make me switch?*

PS: You guys at Android Central are really inspiring. Been following since 2016. Kudos to y'all

Is this just Nigeria or the entire world?

 

[Byrese]

I buy phones based on function and purchase price. Why would I buy something based on resell value? That just doesn't come into the equation for me.

It depends on the buyer. Many buy and sell all the time. For those reasons resell value may play a part in a buyers purchase.