Panda says to wait?
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I think Panda is hinting that we'll see the HTC Pyramid on VZW with LTE and Honeycomb in the May timeframe. #winning
I will echo the comments about waiting..
The smartphone market moves way too fast to wait for anything. Sure, spec-wise, the Bionic will be better than the Thunderbolt.. but at that point, there will be something on the horizon that's also better than the Bionic. And so on, and so on.
It's ridiculous.
Get the best phone available when you can. Waiting is a fool's game.
The smartphone market moves way too fast to wait for anything. Sure, spec-wise, the Bionic will be better than the Thunderbolt.. but at that point, there will be something on the horizon that's also better than the Bionic. And so on, and so on.
It's ridiculous.
Get the best phone available when you can. Waiting is a fool's game.
He is definitely hinting at the Bionic. Note the Blur reference.
HTC Pyramid does not run on MotoBlur.
@KSChris, I am speculating he is talking about 3 phones. The Thunderbolt, Pyramid, and Bionic. Notice the capitalization of Peak in his prose:
Then after talking about the Bionic he talks about native experience. Guessing that will be a Honeycomb device. Time will tell!
Then after talking about the Bionic he talks about native experience. Guessing that will be a Honeycomb device. Time will tell!
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You know I just got done waiting what seemed like forever on the Xoom, and I swear, I almost think I was happier waiting and anticipating. The reality NEVER meets expectations and eventually you realize it's just a device, then you look back and wonder if you were happier while jonesing and longing for that mythical game changing device 
You know I just got done waiting what seemed like forever on the Xoom, and I swear, I almost think I was happier waiting and anticipating. The reality NEVER meets expectations and eventually you realize it's just a device, then you look back and wonder if you were happier while jonesing and longing for that mythical game changing device
Of course things rarely seem to get close to our expectations, in our heads things are mostly the way we want them to be haha..
I don't doubt there isn't another HTC out there in testing for VZW LTE. We won't see it until the other 3 LTE phones are released, much like the Targa.
Remember what we are all getting was originally to be the flagship 3G device for the holidays.
Remember what we are all getting was originally to be the flagship 3G device for the holidays.
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This is exactly my plan as well. Except I'm adding a line and doing a 1-year contract. But between flipping the Thunderbolt and selling the Droid X (if I can part with it), and then using my upgrade in July for the Bionic...I'm going to come out fairly even. I don't mind having payed "rent" to use the devices prior to selling/flipping them.
Likely Translation of Panda's Poem: "A dual-core LTE phone running stock Android that never got leaked will be out in several weeks and anyone who got stuck on a 2-year Thunderbolt contract will regret it. So I recommend you wait just a bit until that one comes out before you make your decision."
Analysis:
When Beer flows in the color of envy and the rainbows are all but empty and you bask in the Thunder so bold…
If "several weeks" means "about three weeks" then we would see this mystery phone launch three weeks after the Thunderbolt. Then if his original date of "after the Passover event" (April 18-26) holds true, the Bionic would launch three weeks after that. Maybe three weeks is the amount of time they need between launches to do all the background prep work. I could swear I saw something by him or Bennnn recently on a required amount of time between launches but I can't remember now.
So I guess I'll wait a few weeks, or at least until CTIA next week. I can still go with the Thunderbolt if it makes sense even after that other phone is out.
Analysis:
When Beer flows in the color of envy and the rainbows are all but empty and you bask in the Thunder so bold…
Translation: The Thunderbolt is out on St. Patrick's Day, just like he said it would be.
But if it’s another device you seek to reach your Peak, then you may yet have several weeks.Translation: But a better phone, this "Peak", should be out in several weeks.
If Peak hadn't been capitalized, we might not want to give it special meaning, but it was. "Hype" is capitalized below and though we know it refers to the Thunderbolt, there didn't seem to be a need to capitalize it (unless it's a weak reference to Hyperion, Greek titan of light. Light. Thunderbolt. Lightning. Nah.) Still though, Peak seems to suggest something specific.
For in the LiTE a new device shall shine, and perhaps that is fine if dual cores you don’t mind…If Peak hadn't been capitalized, we might not want to give it special meaning, but it was. "Hype" is capitalized below and though we know it refers to the Thunderbolt, there didn't seem to be a need to capitalize it (unless it's a weak reference to Hyperion, Greek titan of light. Light. Thunderbolt. Lightning. Nah.) Still though, Peak seems to suggest something specific.
Translation:
Option 1: It will be the dual-core LTE Bionic we've been expecting to launch in April. Panda previously said after Passover in late April.
Option 2: It will be some other dual-core LTE phone, possibly a standout (it "shall shine") amongst LTE phones.
I pick Option 2 here because it isn't really news for him to talk about the Bionic at this point and he wouldn't need to be cryptic about it. Plus Option 2 on the following verse would support Option 2 here.
For Stevie Austin moves like a blur, Unless it stock style you prefer…Option 1: It will be the dual-core LTE Bionic we've been expecting to launch in April. Panda previously said after Passover in late April.
Option 2: It will be some other dual-core LTE phone, possibly a standout (it "shall shine") amongst LTE phones.
I pick Option 2 here because it isn't really news for him to talk about the Bionic at this point and he wouldn't need to be cryptic about it. Plus Option 2 on the following verse would support Option 2 here.
Translation:
Option 1: It's the Bionic (Steve Austin was the character name of the Six Million Dollar Man a.k.a. the Bionic Man). It's fast, but the Blur UI may remain a dealbreaker for some.
Option 2: It's a different phone, this "Peak", which runs stock Android.
Option 3: Curveball! It's the Bionic, but Motorola has reacted to all the Blur hate on the web by giving us the option to turn it off and go Stock? Seems unlikely but there it is. That wouldn't be a new phone, but it would kind of change the picture, wouldn't it?
I pick Option 2 again because of the previous post on his blog. It says,
"perhaps i will wait Another 1000 twitter followers till I share the NEXT devices release date… hmmm what would you all like to see? Bionic? Stealth or perhaps something that hasn’t leaked? Stock android lte?? Hmmm. 'There is another'"
Clearly he's tossing out the Bionic, which we already know about, and the Stealth, which runs a single-core Hummingbird, only as diversionary teasers. The news is that an LTE phone running stock Android is on the way and it was never leaked, so we don't know about it. Put that together with his poem and we can say it is a dual-core LTE phone with stock Android that never leaked that possibly goes by a name similar to "Peak". Anybody heard of a phone called or codenamed "summit" or "acme" or "apex" or "pinnacle" or "zenith" or "apogee" or "mountain" or "volcano" or "sierra"?
Full disclosure: once before on his blog he said "there is another" all Yoda-like in reference to the Bionic. So he could be indicating the Bionic here by using that phrase again. But then why talk about an un-leaked stock Android LTE phone now at all? You wouldn't. So he's talking about this new thing, not the Bionic.
And if the rumors that the Thunderbolt's "sister", the HTC Pyramid, is destined for T-Mobile's HSPA+ network are true, then we're not talking about that phone (with it's "Peak"-like name) since it's not LTE.
But its calmness we shall seek,Option 1: It's the Bionic (Steve Austin was the character name of the Six Million Dollar Man a.k.a. the Bionic Man). It's fast, but the Blur UI may remain a dealbreaker for some.
Option 2: It's a different phone, this "Peak", which runs stock Android.
Option 3: Curveball! It's the Bionic, but Motorola has reacted to all the Blur hate on the web by giving us the option to turn it off and go Stock? Seems unlikely but there it is. That wouldn't be a new phone, but it would kind of change the picture, wouldn't it?
I pick Option 2 again because of the previous post on his blog. It says,
"perhaps i will wait Another 1000 twitter followers till I share the NEXT devices release date… hmmm what would you all like to see? Bionic? Stealth or perhaps something that hasn’t leaked? Stock android lte?? Hmmm. 'There is another'"
Clearly he's tossing out the Bionic, which we already know about, and the Stealth, which runs a single-core Hummingbird, only as diversionary teasers. The news is that an LTE phone running stock Android is on the way and it was never leaked, so we don't know about it. Put that together with his poem and we can say it is a dual-core LTE phone with stock Android that never leaked that possibly goes by a name similar to "Peak". Anybody heard of a phone called or codenamed "summit" or "acme" or "apex" or "pinnacle" or "zenith" or "apogee" or "mountain" or "volcano" or "sierra"?
Full disclosure: once before on his blog he said "there is another" all Yoda-like in reference to the Bionic. So he could be indicating the Bionic here by using that phrase again. But then why talk about an un-leaked stock Android LTE phone now at all? You wouldn't. So he's talking about this new thing, not the Bionic.
And if the rumors that the Thunderbolt's "sister", the HTC Pyramid, is destined for T-Mobile's HSPA+ network are true, then we're not talking about that phone (with it's "Peak"-like name) since it's not LTE.
Translation: Not sure if this means the relative calm of an unleaked, unhyped, un-blog-frenzied device, or something like a calmer processor that can use two cores to handle things at lower power/heat, or just that this is the phone we should want...
And shy away from the Hype-beastTranslation: ...instead of the Thunderbolt, which has gotten all the hype.
So those signing two year choices, don’t blame panda forces, But the unknown sources that raise your hopes so high… Cause at the end of the tweet a Sneaky Panda speaks and he says… YOU MAY WANT TO WAIT TO BUY…Translation: I, the Panda, have seen these phones and can tell you that the Thunderbolt does not deserve the hype it has gotten, not relative to other coming phones. You're going to regret it if you sign a two-year agreement on a Thunderbolt when this coming dual-core phone, either the dual-core Bionic that we expect or this unknown dual-core "Peak", will be out in just a few weeks.
In that same vein, consider his tweet from Feb 28, "The Greatest Trick Verizon Ever Pulled was telling the world the Thunderbolt existed...... have a good day all and I will holla later on." Telling people it existed fueled all this crazy drooling and speculation, which has made us all burst with anticipation to buy it the first second it is out. So maybe he's saying if they hadn't done that, we wouldn't want it so bad? Maybe he's saying they needed to do that to get us all to jump on right now because if they hadn't, and we had been more judicious and calm about things, we might have waited a bit and seen this new dual-core wonder come out and bought that and then they'd be stuck with crates full of these last-of-the-single-cores Thunderbolts?
Also on his blog he reviewed both phones and said they'd both be good, but that power users would want the Bionic - - just another indication of his lower opinion of the Thunderbolt overall.
In that same vein, consider his tweet from Feb 28, "The Greatest Trick Verizon Ever Pulled was telling the world the Thunderbolt existed...... have a good day all and I will holla later on." Telling people it existed fueled all this crazy drooling and speculation, which has made us all burst with anticipation to buy it the first second it is out. So maybe he's saying if they hadn't done that, we wouldn't want it so bad? Maybe he's saying they needed to do that to get us all to jump on right now because if they hadn't, and we had been more judicious and calm about things, we might have waited a bit and seen this new dual-core wonder come out and bought that and then they'd be stuck with crates full of these last-of-the-single-cores Thunderbolts?
Also on his blog he reviewed both phones and said they'd both be good, but that power users would want the Bionic - - just another indication of his lower opinion of the Thunderbolt overall.
If "several weeks" means "about three weeks" then we would see this mystery phone launch three weeks after the Thunderbolt. Then if his original date of "after the Passover event" (April 18-26) holds true, the Bionic would launch three weeks after that. Maybe three weeks is the amount of time they need between launches to do all the background prep work. I could swear I saw something by him or Bennnn recently on a required amount of time between launches but I can't remember now.
So I guess I'll wait a few weeks, or at least until CTIA next week. I can still go with the Thunderbolt if it makes sense even after that other phone is out.
I'm new to this forum, and like the thunderbolt a lot. I may get one to play around with for a few months if my editor will allow it. However, based on Verizon history, the Thunderbolt will be "king" for about 2 months, and then several other phones will be released that will make it look like a Droid 1. I'm sorry, but I have zero faith in Verizon anymore when it comes to phones. I am looking forward to the tests and opinions beginning tomorrow.
The way I look at it is:
1. There's always something new and better just around the corner.
2. Current version of the OS can't really take advantage of 2 cores.
3. Not sure why the speed of the processor is a huge deal on a cell phone in the first place.
Exactly and to add on to this (even though it's a very good thought process as it is), I'M ON A STORM 1 and I would love a quick phone with unlimited LTE data for $9.99.
Like paulmike3 said, since BMX is a network engineer for Verizon, he probably has at least 3 phones at one time to test them. He's not the average consumer who is waiting for the "latest and greatest" 24/7. He's GIVEN the latest and greatest. If you don't want to get a Thunderbolt on a 2 year contract, get a 1 year contract. There will more than likely be a lot of phones even better than any of the upcoming dual cores at that time.
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I would wait but I need a phone now. My phone is all but dead. Side by side... I'd take the Bionic if it was available now... But its not.
4. You are running the risk of tiered data pricing with any subsequent phone.
I know I will be locked on the $29.99 with the TB... for two years...
Any chance he is talking about the Nexus? The stock android reference makes sense that it could be a possibility. Also, since it isn't really a new phone, but rather just switching an existing phone to Verizon it may only take three weeks. Then three weeks later (6 from now), the Bionic will come out. Nothing but thinking out loud here.
Yes, they can't change your contract on you. Now once the contract ends, the next contract can change, but as long as there is a contract in place, the conditions cannot change.
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