Pixel 3 and 3XL if the Leak is real

[Ry]

Is Foxconn ready? What are they gonna do, have people slap together a few Pixels over lunch or whenever they're not trying to crank out new iPhones? I would've thought they already had all the zombified workers they can handle.

Ready for?

If true (Foxconn, Verizon-exclusive), small batch of Pixels is likely a test run.

 

[gendo667]

Ready for?

If true (Foxconn, Verizon-exclusive), small batch of Pixels is likely a test run.

This is my point. HTC. Foxconn. They can both mass produce. Maybe not so much HTC these days but they've done it in the past and your paying them. But Foxconn? People are aware of your product, now let's get it out there. Let everyone buy it.

 

[Ry]

This is my point. HTC. Foxconn. They can both mass produce. Maybe not so much HTC these days but they've done it in the past and your paying them. But Foxconn? People are aware of your product, now let's get it out there. Let everyone buy it.

Oh.

I never had an affinity for HTC so I incorrectly assumed that HTC could build at all four carrier levels in 2016.

 

[anon(10092459)]

This is my point. HTC. Foxconn. They can both mass produce. Maybe not so much HTC these days but they've done it in the past and your paying them. But Foxconn? People are aware of your product, now let's get it out there. Let everyone buy it.

Let's assume the 2017 sales numbers are in the neighborhood of right.. 4 million Pixels aggregate. Verizon has roughly 150 active subscribers. If Verizon did 2 million in sales and Google did the rest, do you really think they should get into more selling agreements without even cracking 10% of their existing relationship's customer base?

 

[gendo667]

Oh.

I never had an affinity for HTC so I incorrectly assumed that HTC could build at all four carrier levels in 2016.

Again, I don't understand how companies that know how to mass produce are not utilize to do so. Especially when money is thrown their way. Your product is beloved by the Android community and you're not gonna jump on this? You're not gonna make it available in every way/shape/form? Bad business. In the fall you'll be beaten over the head with ads for the Pixel 3 (for a few months at least) yet you can only walk into one carrier to get it on your plan.

 

[Itsa_Me_Mario]

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Again, I don't understand how companies that know how to mass produce are not utilize to do so. Especially when money is thrown their way. Your product is beloved by the Android community and you're not gonna jump on this? You're not gonna make it available in every way/shape/form? Bad business. In the fall you'll be beaten over the head with ads for the Pixel 3 (for a few months at least) yet you can only walk into one carrier to get it on your plan.

The "Android community" represents less than 1% of Android users. In the us market, on average, that would be less than 1 in 200 consumers.

 

[I Can Be Your Hero]

Weird; why's that?

Because I thought the screen on the 2XL was substantially worse than the screens on the Galaxy S8/S9/Note8 and iPhone X. Had a myriad of issues I didn't see in the other phones screens.

Google are charging a high price for the phone, I'd like a high quality screen panel.

 

[gendo667]

. The "Android community" represents less than 1% of Android users. In the us market, on average, that would be less than 1 in 200 consumers.

All I'm saying is I hoped/thought Google would make a more advanced effort with the third device and it's disappointing. Things seemed to be lining up/making sense to make a more advanced push this year. Maybe next year. Here's hoping. Cheers.

 

[Itsa_Me_Mario]

Because I thought the screen on the 2XL was substantially worse than the screens on the Galaxy S8/S9/Note8 and iPhone X. Had a myriad of issues I didn't see in the other phones screens.

Google are charging a high price for the phone, I'd like a high quality screen panel.

And you think LG is incapable of making a decent display? Even though they made millions of high quality displays and only a few, pre-production ones that shouldn't have passed QC and are one of the top display makers in the world?

Sort of sounds like you just want them to calibrate it to DCI P3 out of the box.

 

[Ry]

Again, I don't understand how companies that know how to mass produce are not utilize to do so. Especially when money is thrown their way. Your product is beloved by the Android community and you're not gonna jump on this? You're not gonna make it available in every way/shape/form? Bad business. In the fall you'll be beaten over the head with ads for the Pixel 3 (for a few months at least) yet you can only walk into one carrier to get it on your plan.

But the ads will say "only on Verizon..."

Google still gets what it wants (data) regardless if you buy a Pixel or a Galaxy Note 9.

 

[I Can Be Your Hero]

And you think LG is incapable of making a decent display? Even though they made millions of high quality displays and only a few, pre-production ones that shouldn't have passed QC and are one of the top display makers in the world?

I haven't seen evidence that LG are capable of making phone display panels as good as Samsung's. All the P2XL screens I've seen (anecdotally of course) have displays that don't look that great when compared to the competition.

And if the displays were pre-production and shouldn't have been sold, then Google should have issued a recall of those phones and replaced them with ones which did pass QC. Aside from that, this claim of screens not passing QC I believe is unsubstantiated - unless you have a link to show that actually was the case.

It's the Achilles heel of the P2XL and something I want rectified with the P3XL.

 

[Itsa_Me_Mario]

I haven't seen evidence that LG are capable of making phone display panels as good as Samsung's. All the P2XL screens I've seen (anecdotally of course) have displays that don't look that great when compared to the competition.

And if the displays were pre-production and shouldn't have been sold, then Google should have issued a recall of those phones and replaced them with ones which did pass QC. Aside from that, this claim of screens not passing QC I believe is unsubstantiated - unless you have a link to show that actually was the case.

It's the Achilles heel of the P2XL and something I want rectified with the P3XL.

I'm unclear on why you would recall pre-production review units. Can you help me understand that? Is it just so Ron from Ars doesn't trash your device and create fake problems that some people will then believe are widespread issues?

 

[gendo667]

But the ads will say "only on Verizon..."

Yes, and perhaps they could have even more data if they were available at more carriers.

 

[Itsa_Me_Mario]

Here's the reason I think the display issues are overblown. I got a pixel 2 xl more than two months earlier than Ron did and I chatted daily with people who also did. Not one of those people ever mentioned a single one of Ron's issues. Once he posted, not a single other reviewer of any repute ever had the same issue and no one has ever been able to replicate on random devices. I've held over 50 2 XL units and have never seen the issues. I do have a friend who said his display was bad and I generally trust his judgement. Now, that's all anecdotal, but in a sample size of over 100 units, 1-2 having different issues from each other statistically means that it'd be a stark deviance for the population at large to have a significantly different set of stats on good vs terrible display units. Now, I believe 1 or 2 in 100 having significant issues is too many. But I don't believe that's a widespread issue, because of the simple fact that with the number of units sold, fewer than 2 in 100 of the Android central users who own the device would have ever experienced the issue directly and due to the press, of those my estimate is that fewer than 1 in 100 of those actually had issues that weren't reverse placebo.

I do get that your experience differs, so I'm just trying to show where I'm coming from.

 

[Ten Four]

I'm pretty much giving up on top-end phones after my Pixel 2 dies. The so-called "features" they are touting are of zero interest to me, while they drop the things I really want: small size, headphone jack, great and simple camera (I don't want AR/VR, multiple lenses, AI nonsense), could care less about the selfy camera I almost never use, ruggedness (forget all-glass backs), etc. If the size goes up on the smaller phone I'm gone--the Pixel 2 is already too big.

 

[anon(10092459)]

Because I thought the screen on the 2XL was substantially worse than the screens on the Galaxy S8/S9/Note8 and iPhone X. Had a myriad of issues I didn't see in the other phones screens.

Google are charging a high price for the phone, I'd like a high quality screen panel.

You've been pretty clear regarding your feelings about the 2 XL screen and LG. Considering LG has been all but confirmed from Google in a direct press release, why not get a s 9/9+? Seems like you'd be happier with their hardware builds

 

[anon(10092459)]

If the size goes up on the smaller phone I'm gone

Is this regarding the Pixel 3 or phones in general?

I'll be the first to say the Pixel line isn't for everyone and, considering your post and the direction that Google is going with the line, you're thoughts are probably right to stop at the Pixel 2.

 

[Kizzy Catwoman]

I'm pretty much giving up on top-end phones after my Pixel 2 dies. The so-called "features" they are touting are of zero interest to me, while they drop the things I really want: small size, headphone jack, great and simple camera (I don't want AR/VR, multiple lenses, AI nonsense), could care less about the selfy camera I almost never use, ruggedness (forget all-glass backs), etc. If the size goes up on the smaller phone I'm gone--the Pixel 2 is already too big.

It sounds like the Pixel just isn't the right phone for you. Perhaps and S8 Active or a Caterpillar phone? Most people like selfies and stickers and glass back phones. Google are selling to the mainstream.

 

[I Can Be Your Hero]

I'm unclear on why you would recall pre-production review units. Can you help me understand that? Is it just so Ron from Ars doesn't trash your device and create fake problems that some people will then believe are widespread issues?

Well the unit I got isn't a pre-production review unit. And the problems certainly aren't fake - they were widely reported and replicated issues with the display. Blue tint, grain, black crush and black smear being the worst of them.

I'm just concerned with Google going with LG again for the screen this year that we'll get another screen that isn't as good as the competition.

 

[shamefulzero]

I don't mind the notch but if we can do this with software I think it'll ease some people's hatred..

https://imgur.com/a/KUqtEDN

I actually do like that. If we can do that with the software, i'd get a 3XL