Pixel 6.

[slave]

It's been in the works , and they had some time with it , I don't think it's aiming to best eExynos or SD but have hardware/software work together like Apple

Yup. When they control the silicone, they can optimize. That's why the weaker Bionic from Apple tends to spank the Snapdragon.

 

[Scott337]

It's been in the works , and they had some time with it , I don't think it's aiming to best eExynos or SD but have hardware/software work together like Apple

Yup. When they control the silicone, they can optimize. That's why the weaker Bionic from Apple tends to spank the Snapdragon.

Both are excellent points, which I concur with. I think Google has the chance to do something really great here. Or totally botch it, which I hope they don't.

 

[Morty2264]

The question is if the Google chip will be considered premium or mid-range.

That's a very good point that I hadn't considered. Admittedly, when manufacturers make their own chips and OS, it makes me nervous (ie, Huawei). But like other users have said, maybe second generation will have the kinks ironed out!

 

[Jeremy8000]

You're not taking into account the fact that the pixel 5 is using a mid range processor, where's every other mainline pixel device used a flagship processor. This was the main reason for the drop in price with the 5. This new device, if it's true it's going back to flagship tier, will most likely be a higher base price than 699. I'm going to bet 799 for the smaller device, and I'm betting that low only because of the rumors that this device will use Google silicon instead of snapdragon.

I wouldn't argue against the $799 figure - but it'll shock me if it's not within that $699-799 range.

A few things to note regarding the processor:

• We don't know whether Google's first processor is intended to be competitive at the midrange or top tier of performance, the former making it more affordable and the latter less so
• In designing their own chips, they are not paying the markup and licensing to Qualcomm, so there is potentially a great deal of savings there
• We don't know the scale of production these will see. Presumably they will be at a minimum utilized in Pixels and some Chromebooks - and possibly tablets, smartwatches, smart TV's, cars, etc... The wider the net is cast in terms of devices using them, the lower the per-CPU cost (and of course, the narrower, the higher).

My $699 guess assumes that general build will be similar to what was used in the 5 (other than camera, processor), with some incremental gains, allowing Google to retain a pricing competitive with where the basic iPhone starts. I could see $799, but I can't fathom their going a penny higher than Apple is asking for their basic (not mini) iPhone.

 

[poseign]

I wouldn't argue against the $799 figure - but it'll shock me if it's not within that $699-799 range.

A few things to note regarding the processor:

• We don't know whether Google's first processor is intended to be competitive at the midrange or top tier of performance, the former making it more affordable and the latter less so
• In designing their own chips, they are not paying the markup and licensing to Qualcomm, so there is potentially a great deal of savings there
• We don't know the scale of production these will see. Presumably they will be at a minimum utilized in Pixels and some Chromebooks - and possibly tablets, smartwatches, smart TV's, cars, etc... The wider the net is cast in terms of devices using them, the lower the per-CPU cost (and of course, the narrower, the higher).

My $699 guess assumes that general build will be similar to what was used in the 5 (other than camera, processor), with some incremental gains, allowing Google to retain a pricing competitive with where the basic iPhone starts. I could see $799, but I can't fathom their going a penny higher than Apple is asking for their basic (not mini) iPhone.

I guess we will see! If renders are to be believed, Google is not intending this phone to be a mid-tier phone. I'm hoping that Google is indeed going for best optimization possible between hardware and software here, and the end result will indeed be much like the iPhone and the bionic processor. If that's the case I'm all aboard. I still have my doubts about sub 799 price on the base model though, even with the processor being built in house the premium pixel phones (I'm not counting the 5 here) Always tend to be on the pricier side for what you get. It would completely shock me if they manage cheaper than that.

 

[Orion78]

Looks like the rumored screen sizes for Pixel 6 are 6.4 and the Pro 6.7.

As far as the renders go I'm confident it will look close to it. If so...it will be the best looking Pixel since the 2 XL(my opinion).

 

[swebb]

I don't like that the rumored camera on the 6 will be a downgrade from the 6 pro. I like what they did this year with the P5 and P4a 5g. The downgrades (mm wave, refresh rate) were no big deal imo, and expected given the price difference. The 6 pro likely won't be the one for me given the size, curved screen, and expected pricing (I'm guessing approximately $950). Just hoping the price of the smaller 6 will be less than $699.

Regarding the processor, I agree with everyone here that it's going to be a good decision by Google. Should keep the cost down a bit, and the custom design and tweaks will get the same real world performance as a state of the art SD.

 

[Morty2264]

Looks like the rumored screen sizes for Pixel 6 are 6.4 and the Pro 6.7.

As far as the renders go I'm confident it will look close to it. If so...it will be the best looking Pixel since the 2 XL(my opinion).

Those sizes may have been too big for me, but I am glad that Google seems to have gone back to offering a smaller and larger variant of their current lineup.

I read somewhere that the smaller Pixel wouldn't have the same camera specs as the larger 6... That is unfortunate for users who would want a smaller device.

 

[Ben_70]

I'm torn about what I've seen so far on the 6 pro. I would prefer not having the in display FPS and I really don't like a curved display. But if it turns out to really have a 5x zoom lens on the back with upgraded sensors I may have a hard time saying no. I'm still really enjoying my 4xl so that will make the decision harder.

 

[Scott337]

I'm torn about what I've seen so far on the 6 pro. I would prefer not having the in display FPS and I really don't like a curved display. But if it turns out to really have a 5x zoom lens on the back with upgraded sensors I may have a hard time saying no. I'm still really enjoying my 4xl so that will make the decision harder.

I was all for it, 100% until I read curved screen in one of these posts. I certainly hope it's not a curved screen.

 

[Torisen1]

Those sizes may have been too big for me, but I am glad that Google seems to have gone back to offering a smaller and larger variant of their current lineup.

I read somewhere that the smaller Pixel wouldn't have the same camera specs as the larger 6... That is unfortunate for users who would want a smaller device.

I haven't heard that the camera specs would be different just that the 6 will have 2 while the 6 Pro will have 3 camera's. No idea on which one the 6 misses out on, the wide angle or the telephoto.

 

[Morty2264]

I haven't heard that the camera specs would be different just that the 6 will have 2 while the 6 Pro will have 3 camera's. No idea on which one the 6 misses out on, the wide angle or the telephoto.

Yeah, I too heard that the smaller 6 would have two cameras. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens!

 

[merlin29]

Hoping the Pixel 6 Pro is a real flagship phone, plenty of midrange one’s we need a no expense spared Flagship pixel.

 

[Jeremy8000]

While I'd always gone with the XL model before (up through the 3 XL, from which I moved to the S20 FE and can't wait to move back), I was looking forward to the 'normal' model this year so long as it had a 6" display, as while I love having a larger screen for a few things, the size of the body they can fit a 6" display in now is much more easily handled, and the display is certainly big enough that I wouldn't complain - whereas by the time you get to a 6.5"+ display it becomes a bit more unwieldy (such as the S20 FE).

Then rumors have to throw the 'but wait, there's more!' when describing the 6 Pro... If the only difference besides screen size, and battery life (presuming that of the 6 is still sufficient) is the 3rd camera and it's a telephoto, I'll probably save the $ and get the 6. But I just know Google will add in a couple more carefully crafted contrivances to differentiate it and draw me over. Yep, me - I know you're watching me, Google!

 

[Morty2264]

Then rumors have to throw the 'but wait, there's more!' when describing the 6 Pro... If the only difference besides screen size, and battery life (presuming that of the 6 is still sufficient) is the 3rd camera and it's a telephoto, I'll probably save the $ and get the 6. But I just know Google will add in a couple more carefully crafted contrivances to differentiate it and draw me over. Yep, me - I know you're watching me, Google!

This is exactly how I feel when I want the smaller version of the Pixel line.

 

[poseign]

https://www.techradar.com/news/goog...-disappointing-chipset-and-an-upgraded-camera

Rumor is the chipset will fall somewhere between the sd888 and the sd865, so not quite flagship for this year but better than last year's flagship.

If this is true I think that's fine. Still makes it a better phone than last year's lineups unlike the p5 when it released. 5000mah battery as well, and if we are truly seeing chipset and software marriage here that should make for some pretty incredible battery life.

 

[slave]

Wait, it's faster than my 4XL, has a 5000mAh battery and has an extremely upgraded camera?? Yup. I'm in.

 

[Deleted member 2609113]

Not being a spec chaser as long as the phone performs like a flagship it could be powered by a hamster in a wheel for all I care.

 

[Jeremy8000]

https://www.techradar.com/news/goog...-disappointing-chipset-and-an-upgraded-camera

Rumor is the chipset will fall somewhere between the sd888 and the sd865, so not quite flagship for this year but better than last year's flagship.

If this is true I think that's fine. Still makes it a better phone than last year's lineups unlike the p5 when it released. 5000mah battery as well, and if we are truly seeing chipset and software marriage here that should make for some pretty incredible battery life.

I agree completely. Very few people would actually recognize the difference under normal daily use between the performance of the latest flagship and a 1- to 2-year old midrange chip; far fewer yet actually need it. Also, performance under benchmarking has frequently been irrelevant to real world performance, largely exploited and often cheated by OEMs. There comes a point where adding more processor speed simply doesn't generate real world benefits that are practical for the price unless you are chasing bragging rights (like Ludicrous mode for Tesla).

Google could be saving a ton of money in not using SD chips yet still offering competitive performance - particularly when they have had the ability to tailor the chip design around their specific software designs - thereby affording them the opportunity to integrate other top-tier parts without raising the price as much as would be necessary with a SD chip.

And on a 5nm process, paired with how efficient Google's implementation of Android is and a large battery, it should (hopefully) be enough to at least hush, if not silence, the complaints about battery life of Pixels.

 

[Kizzy Catwoman]

And the battery life on my 4a 5G is incredible. Well over a day and a half even on the Android 12 beta