Pixel Halo effect?

[CHILLYWILL_95831]

Google will never deliver a decent camera. Period.

Hate much?

 

[mrslind]

Stop shooting at light sources. Problem solved. People love complaining about non problems.

This is actually beyond stupid. People love lecturing others without even reading the posts.

 

[Preach2k]

Google will never deliver a decent camera. Period.

Why are you hating on Google? The reviews are putting The Pixel ahead of all other phones right now. Apple, LG, even some of the pictures on my Favorite phone Note 7, and S7 except for low light pictures.

 

[larsdennert]

Lens Flare is pretty common but the Pixel seems to suffer from Halo which is different. Basically the phone has cataracts. The argument about not shooting into the light is a bad one. Photography is ALL about light. The lenses in the Pixel are either misaligned, dirty or incorrectly sized for the photo length. Now to decide whether to cancel my order... :-

 

[anon(464338)]

I have not experienced this. I am using a clear tpu case, so not sure if this effects it

 

[EMGSM]

According to this dude, it even happens in low light pix and that Google is aware of the issue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78VHOWOuJ34

 

[sulla1965]

The nexus 6 had a good camera, but suffered from jumpy auto focus with videos. Which pretty much made it useless for video recording. Google, never ever fixed this. Despite all the reviewers saying this will probably be fixed in a software update. Yeah right. That's why some of us don't trust google to actually fix a problem with the camera.

 

[1213 1213]

Google said they will send a software update to fix it, but the wording seemed to imply that it may still be an issue sometimes.

 

[gmermel]

Google said they will send a software update to fix it, but the wording seemed to imply that it may still be an issue sometimes.

A post in the Google User Community yesterday confirms Google is on the problem and anticipates releasing an algorithmic fix in the near future. Android Central sent the link out this AM:

Google set to "fix" Pixel camera flare issue with software update

Some Pixel owners are complaining that their new camera flares when taking photos directly into the sun. This is not a new issue for smartphone cameras — or any sensor that picks up light refracted through layers of glass (ie. all of them) — but Google says that an update will improve, if not fix, the issue. A Google engineer posted in the company's product forums:

"You can expect a software update in the next few weeks that will improve the effects of this issue. We're working on some algorithms that recognize the halo/arc flare, characterize it mathematically, and then subtract it from the image. You will need to use HDR+ to see the benefits of this software."

Here's the link to the post itself:

https://productforums.google.com/fo...7#!category-topic/phone-by-google/rROqMaXHqHg

 

[latt45]

It's really bad on my phone. Definitely not "normal" lens flare. I agree that it appears like it's refracting from the glass pane on the upper half of the phone.

I'm really not confident that this can be fixed in a software update

 

[WeAreAllUnique]

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It's really bad on my phone. Definitely not "normal" lens flare. I agree that it appears like it's refracting from the glass pane on the upper half of the phone.

I'm really not confident that this can be fixed in a software update

That looks really bad. Makes me happy that I returned my Pixel.

 

[mwboost]

Your going to get plenty of flare easily in a situation like that ^^^
Probably with any smartphone. My S7 is washed out in a position like that and with flare.

 

[anon(661246)]

Your going to get plenty of flare easily in a situation like that ^^^
Probably with any smartphone. My S7 is washed out in a position like that and with flare.

People are just purposely taking pictures into the sun now

 

[SteelGator]

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It's really bad on my phone. Definitely not "normal" lens flare. I agree that it appears like it's refracting from the glass pane on the upper half of the phone.

I'm really not confident that this can be fixed in a software update

I'd return that phone and try another. Your flare send pretty extreme.

 

[JasW]

Since I'm still on the Thanksgiving-time preorder list, I'm going to reserve judgment and see how mine is. Frankly, as good as smartphone cameras have gotten over the last couple of years, I still think of them as substitute cameras that produce second-rate and relatively disposable photographs. If I'm looking to take truly decent pictures, I use a DSLR. Obviously, one can't always have a DSLR with them, but the fact I still use one regularly says a lot. (Contrast that to video, however; I long ago abandoned a separate video camera.) If there is an occasional halo or flare, I can live with that. If it routinely mars photos, then no.

 

[SteelGator]

I had a couple free minutes this morning waiting for a meeting, so I played with my camera pointing straight into the rising sun. Two important findings here, (1) this camera is amazing, (2) you will get flare pointing straight into the light, but reframing can fix that.

Here are the 2 photos, one that shows the flare (intentionally framed for it) and one that does not.



Reframed the shot, and had the camera meter for the dark are in the trees for a brighter shot. If I would have had a little more time I would have played with where the photo is metered a bit more. I find that I can fine tune the HDR very well that way. In any case, for a quick point and shoot, the camera handled a tough scene very well.

 

[CrackleBerryMound]

End of story.

 

[sulla1965]

I had a couple free minutes this morning waiting for a meeting, so I played with my camera pointing straight into the rising sun. Two important findings here, (1) this camera is amazing, (2) you will get flare pointing straight into the light, but reframing can fix that.

Here are the 2 photos, one that shows the flare (intentionally framed for it) and one that does not.

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Reframed the shot, and had the camera meter for the dark are in the trees for a brighter shot. If I would have had a little more time I would have played with where the photo is metered a bit more. I find that I can fine tune the HDR very well that way. In any case, for a quick point and shoot, the camera handled a tough scene very well.
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In that second pic, the sky is completely blown out.

 

[mwboost]

The phone uses hdr+ most of the time so once the update comes there should be no problem.

 

[Go0gle]

In that second pic, the sky is completely blown out.

The sun it literally pointing in the lens. The exposure difference between the foreground and *the SUN* is absolutely enormous, probably in the neighborhood of 20EV. There is no way HDR+ can deal with that. It did a pretty amazing job actually - that shot with any normal camera would probably be unusable.

I get that not everyone is experienced with photography, but while what this camera does is absolutely amazing, it can only defy physics so much even with the clever software.