Pixel videos

[CHILLYWILL_95831]

Do you think the quality of the indoor video can somehow be improved with software somewhere down the line? Reason I'm asking is if the quality of the camera for taking regular pics is good the same lens is being utilized. Wouldn't this lean more towards software tweaks? Just asking as I'm unsure myself

I think it can be tweaked as it's simply a function of the EIS and the lens. And, since EIS is all about algorithms, I'm pretty sure Google can tweak the math. But TBH, I think the indoor low light performance suffers strictly because of no OIS. That being said, let's see if Google can tweak this issue.

 

[88 FLUX]

I think it can be tweaked as it's simply a function of the EIS and the lens. And, since EIS is all about algorithms, I'm pretty sure Google can tweak the math. But TBH, I think the indoor low light performance suffers strictly because of no OIS. That being said, let's see if Google can tweak this issue.

I came back to here to post some video examples but popkurn611 beat me to it and did a great job of showing the difference so I won't bother. Mine show the same results except with a different device as a comparison.

CHILLYWILL_95831, I appreciate your comments and thank you for your mature response to me as well as your kind compliment about my daughter. However, I find it quite a bit hypocritical how condescending you're being towards someone because they made a comparison that favored the results of a Samsung over the Pixel. You immediately jumped to the conclusion that they're a "Sammy fan" which apparently means they can't make an unbiased opinion based on their own personal experiences. But then you immediately tell us all that the subpar video performance is something that no one should complain about because you bought it knowing that your opinion was that it wouldn't be the best Android phone out there. It just doesn't make sense to me.

To quote you, "I'm just tryna figure out why indoor video is the measuring stick for putting the pixel "to shame?". I haven't seen anyone here at all putting the Pixel to shame. We are trying to have a legitimate discussion about a feature that is performing poorly. When a phone is advertised as having "The best cell phone camera, ever", it is a problem. But poor video quality except in the best of conditions aside, I love my Pixel XL and would not choose to have any other device currently on the market in its place.

I won't bother posting new comparisons since there are plenty out there already. But please trust me when I say that the quality is an actual problem. At least from my perspective. I've owned over 70 different models of cell phones (not exaggerating) and some on multiple occasion. Been shooting digital media via mobile devices since my Sony Ericsson and Motorola camera attachments. I know an issue when I see it. ;-)

EDIT: I can admit when I'm wrong. I just now noticed that your comment about putting the phone to shame was in response to someone who actually did do that. My apologies.

 

[Wildo6882]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I don't see the major issue with these videos. Yes, the Sammy is better. But those videos still capture the essence of the subject. In both, they still show a video of your precious children that is good enough to share and good enough to capture that memory for years to come. I have a 6s Plus that I've recorded tons of videos inside my home with - and the vast majority of them look worse than both of those Pixel videos in this thread. Yet I'm still able to look at them with joy and happiness when I see my goofy little 4 year old being herself.

Yes cameras in phones have gotten fantastic. But we've also turned into spoiled rotten brats about it. I doubt any of us are planning on producing a major motion picture of our phone videos.

And I don't mean to chastise anyone. So please do not take it that way. But we're seriously picking nits here.

 

[popkurn611]

I came back to here to post some video examples but popkurn611 beat me to it and did a great job of showing the difference so I won't bother. Mine show the same results except with a different device as a comparison.

CHILLYWILL_95831, I appreciate your comments and thank you for your mature response to me as well as your kind compliment about my daughter. However, I find it quite a bit hypocritical how condescending you're being towards someone because they made a comparison that favored the results of a Samsung over the Pixel. You immediately jumped to the conclusion that they're a "Sammy fan" which apparently means they can't make an unbiased opinion based on their own personal experiences. But then you immediately tell us all that the subpar video performance is something that no one should complain about because you bought it knowing that your opinion was that it wouldn't be the best Android phone out there. It just doesn't make sense to me.

To quote you, "I'm just tryna figure out why indoor video is the measuring stick for putting the pixel "to shame?". I haven't seen anyone here at all putting the Pixel to shame. We are trying to have a legitimate discussion about a feature that is performing poorly. When a phone is advertised as having "The best cell phone camera, ever", it is a problem. But poor video quality except in the best of conditions aside, I love my Pixel XL and would not choose to have any other device currently on the market in its place.

I won't bother posting new comparisons since there are plenty out there already. But please trust me when I say that the quality is an actual problem. At least from my perspective. I've owned over 70 different models of cell phones (not exaggerating) and some on multiple occasion. Been shooting digital media via mobile devices since my Sony Ericsson and Motorola camera attachments. I know an issue when I see it. ;-)

EDIT: I can admit when I'm wrong. I just now noticed that your comment about putting the phone to shame was in response to someone who actually did do that. My apologies.

Thanks for backing me up, I think I did a good job defending myself and provided the proof of the pudding! Not sure if this is an issue google can fix via software, not really thinking it can be bc I think it's a hardware issue. Fingers crossed as I do love this phone.

 

[popkurn611]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I don't see the major issue with these videos. Yes, the Sammy is better. But those videos still capture the essence of the subject. In both, they still show a video of your precious children that is good enough to share and good enough to capture that memory for years to come. I have a 6s Plus that I've recorded tons of videos inside my home with - and the vast majority of them look worse than both of those Pixel videos in this thread. Yet I'm still able to look at them with joy and happiness when I see my goofy little 4 year old being herself.

Yes cameras in phones have gotten fantastic. But we've also turned into spoiled rotten brats about it. I doubt any of us are planning on producing a major motion picture of our phone videos.

And I don't mean to chastise anyone. So please do not take it that way. But we're seriously picking nits here.

See I don't think I am nit-picking when I spent $700 on a phone that has poor video quality when I have another $700 phone that performs much better in that department. Call me spoiled, but the video quality on the S7 is quite incredible. If it did spoil me then so be it. Watching the video of my son on the S7 is much more enjoyable than on the pixel. Maybe if I wasn't such a mobile geek I wouldn't care but that isn't the case. The average person most likely wouldn't really see it being an "issue"

 

[CHILLYWILL_95831]

I came back to here to post some video examples but popkurn611 beat me to it and did a great job of showing the difference so I won't bother. Mine show the same results except with a different device as a comparison.

CHILLYWILL_95831, I appreciate your comments and thank you for your mature response to me as well as your kind compliment about my daughter. However, I find it quite a bit hypocritical how condescending you're being towards someone because they made a comparison that favored the results of a Samsung over the Pixel. You immediately jumped to the conclusion that they're a "Sammy fan" which apparently means they can't make an unbiased opinion based on their own personal experiences. But then you immediately tell us all that the subpar video performance is something that no one should complain about because you bought it knowing that your opinion was that it wouldn't be the best Android phone out there. It just doesn't make sense to me.

To quote you, "I'm just tryna figure out why indoor video is the measuring stick for putting the pixel "to shame?". I haven't seen anyone here at all putting the Pixel to shame. We are trying to have a legitimate discussion about a feature that is performing poorly. When a phone is advertised as having "The best cell phone camera, ever", it is a problem. But poor video quality except in the best of conditions aside, I love my Pixel XL and would not choose to have any other device currently on the market in its place.

I won't bother posting new comparisons since there are plenty out there already. But please trust me when I say that the quality is an actual problem. At least from my perspective. I've owned over 70 different models of cell phones (not exaggerating) and some on multiple occasion. Been shooting digital media via mobile devices since my Sony Ericsson and Motorola camera attachments. I know an issue when I see it. ;-)

EDIT: I can admit when I'm wrong. I just now noticed that your comment about putting the phone to shame was in response to someone who actually did do that. My apologies.

Apology accepted sir. I didn't want to have to dig out the quote of the person who posted that remark. I thought I responded directly to that person, but if it was you.. apologies.

Just as fodder, I understand that you don't want to be considered a Sammy fan, but just understand that there's not a single thread you can read in this forum and many others where Sammy fans always must claim their phones are the best. It just gets irritating is all. I understand that many Sammy phones are sold to the public, but so are iPhones. And, you really don't get nearly as many iPhone fans lobbing iPhone superiority in every single mobile forum. They just don't do that. And, I've read pro Apple forums and yet and still there's always Sammy fans even in those forums canvasing for Sammy.
And although this is a pixel forum, there are still Sammy users declaring Sammy dominance. You must admit it sounds like they have fragile egos. And, it's just plain old annoying.

No matter how much Sammy wants to be the Smartphone measuring stick, it just isn't. And Google stated that loud and clear by marketing the Pixel as an iPhone foe. They didn't consider Sammy the competition and they didn't make a phone that looks or acts like a Sammy phone. That's because Sammy is also trying to market against the iPhone, which sadly to say, is the true measuring stick. And, I just base that comment on the marketability and dominance of the iPhone.

All I ask is to stop hearing about Sammy all the time in every single forum topic, especially if the post isn't about Sammy...

 

[popkurn611]

Apology accepted sir. I didn't want to have to dig out the quote of the person who posted that remark. I thought I responded directly to that person, but if it was you.. apologies.

Just as fodder, I understand that you don't want to be considered a Sammy fan, but just understand that there's not a single thread you can read in this forum and many others where Sammy fans always must claim their phones are the best. It just gets irritating is all. I understand that many Sammy phones are sold to the public, but so are iPhones. And, you really don't get nearly as many iPhone fans lobbing iPhone superiority in every single mobile forum. They just don't do that. And, I've read pro Apple forums and yet and still there's always Sammy fans even in those forums canvasing for Sammy.
And although this is a pixel forum, there are still Sammy users declaring Sammy dominance. You must admit it sounds like they have fragile egos. And, it's just plain old annoying.

No matter how much Sammy wants to be the Smartphone measuring stick, it just isn't. And Google stated that loud and clear by marketing the Pixel as an iPhone foe. They didn't consider Sammy the competition and they didn't make a phone that looks or acts like a Sammy phone. That's because Sammy is also trying to market against the iPhone, which sadly to say, is the true measuring stick. And, I just base that comment on the marketability and dominance of the iPhone.

All I ask is to stop hearing about Sammy all the time in every single forum topic, especially if the post isn't about Sammy...

It was a comparison post to the other phone I own which just so happens to be a Samsung device. This is really getting "irritating" on my end BC if I was such a Sammy fan why would I buy a pixel? You're saying the pixel is similar to the iPhone and that Samsung tries to be completely different from the iPhone. So if I was such a "Sammy fan" why would I buy a phone that resembles an iPhone which is so set apart from by Samsung?

There may be other threads here that have the sammy fans you are referring to, but not in this thread. Maybe the Samsung owners are declaring dominance because the s7 is truly an extremely dominant phone all around. I can also disagree about apple fanboys not lobbying iPhone superiority. They all think their iPhone is better than any Android phone. Again, my opinion I've come across in my lifetime.

 

[Wildo6882]

See I don't think I am nit-picking when I spent $700 on a phone that has poor video quality when I have another $700 phone that performs much better in that department. Call me spoiled, but the video quality on the S7 is quite incredible. If it did spoil me then so be it. Watching the video of my son on the S7 is much more enjoyable than on the pixel. Maybe if I wasn't such a mobile geek I wouldn't care but that isn't the case. The average person most likely wouldn't really see it being an "issue"

My $1000 phone from last December takes decidedly worse videos than your $700 phone. You are absolutely entitled to your own opinion, feelings, thoughts, etc on it. I'm a HUGE proponent of using what is best for the person, not what I prefer. I don't blame anyone for using the S7 over the Pixel.

 

[popkurn611]

My $1000 phone from last December takes decidedly worse videos than your $700 phone. You are absolutely entitled to your own opinion, feelings, thoughts, etc on it. I'm a HUGE proponent of using what is best for the person, not what I prefer. I don't blame anyone for using the S7 over the Pixel.

Which is why I don't have an iPhone . I am assuming that is the $1000 phone you are referring to.

 

[Wildo6882]

Which is why I don't have an iPhone . I am assuming that is the $1000 phone you are referring to.

Yup! It's about to be back on the market once I figure out which Android phone I want.

 

[popkurn611]

Yup! It's about to be back on the market once I figure out which Android phone I want.

Waiting on the s8?

 

[Wildo6882]

Waiting on the s8?

No I'm looking for something now. Not a huge Sammy fan.

 

[johnnyshinta]

Has anyone tried a 3rd party camera app to see if the issue is present

 

[johnnyshinta]

I noticed that 30fps seems to be slightly better. I have to agree with several of the posters. I got the phone to use pure Android. And the sales slicks all say best smartphone camera ever. I have a 2 year old and love taking videos of her. And this is going to be a deal breaker if it isn't fixed quickly

 

[popkurn611]

I noticed that 30fps seems to be slightly better. I have to agree with several of the posters. I got the phone to use pure Android. And the sales slicks all say best smartphone camera ever. I have a 2 year old and love taking videos of her. And this is going to be a deal breaker if it isn't fixed quickly

Yep it sucks. I agree with you that the 30fps is better, on 1080p. The 4K I noticed to only be good when using outside. Haven't tried a third party app.

I don't quite get how the camera is SO good, but the video isn't. Doesn't the video use the same hardware the camera does (the lens)?? If so it leads me to believe that maybe the grainy, noisy out of focus video quality could be corrected...how I have no idea though

 

[johnnyshinta]

I think it's software. Fortunately Google can update the camera app anytime because it's in the play store. Hopefully they don't take their time.

 

[johnnyshinta]

I think the EIS is messed up to. I took a video with it on and it was moving the camera on it's on when I stopped panning. And then completely blurred the entire frame. Nothing was in focused. Took EIS off and it was a bit better. No ghost movements anyway

 

[aoshia]

Still don't have any complaints about mine. Honestly, I don't find either of those two videos acceptable if I was really looking for memorable videos of the kids. The S7's is a little more distracting to me just due to how it handles the light from the door. The Pixel video just doesn't seem to be as crisp to me.

 

[johnnyshinta]

It's almost like the entire video has a haze over it. It someone tried to soften it post production

 

[johnnyshinta]

Open camera seems to work much better