Put Flash back in JB Mr. Google

[DestinedtoGame]

I haven't really been hurt by the lack of Flash. I actually look forward to the more wide use of HTML 5.

 

[crackberrytraitor]

I'm not losing any sleep over lack of Flash support (I've owned two iPads, so I'm used to it). But it does seem like Adobe is ending Flash support a bit prematurely. I completely agree, we need to move to HMTL5, and that is happening, but it isn't something that's just going to happen over night. And it kinda sucks to limit the user experience (even if it's marginal) on mobile platforms while the transition is going on.

I'm using a semi-functional work around side loading Flash with Firefox Beta, but I can't watch my damn Android Central podcasts in full screen mode. Who is going to answer for this crime?

Use the xscope browser, works perfectly in every way and with HD. Why are you all acting like flash doesn't work just because it takes an extra five minutes to set it up?

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[steve dave]

When RedTube switches over, then the whole internet will go HTML5.

Just sayin'.

They have an html5 site that runs fine on an iPad

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[MikeLip]

It is dumb, I agree. While yes, everyone wants to phase it out, LOTS of people still maintain sites with Flash content. So wth? Even NOAA uses flash for their weather site, and I doubt it will change soon.

How about some legacy support. No one has to develop new flash, but support what's out there.

 

[pete_lockwood]

Everyone that's complained here has left feedback on the sites that run flash asking them to move away, right?

 

[steve dave]

Everyone that's complained here has left feedback on the sites that run flash asking them to move away, right?

Of course not, they just whined and moaned about how their mobile device can't run crappy, bloated, and ancient software.

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[dchawk81]

Flash needs to go die in a fire.

Or drown in a flash flood?

 

[MikeLip]

If you are thinking Flash is going to disappear tomorrow because HTML5 (incomplete as it is) is here, think again. It's going to be around for a while, like it or not. There is a LOT of flash content out there, all of which will take time and money to convert. Money that sites, in the current economy, are unwilling to spend just because there is new tech to replace it. So settle back and wait. Hope you brought a snack. It may be a while.

If you don't need flash, awesome! I'm sure you're proud of your freedom from the evil. But lots of us do use flash content, are not entirely happy that our new toy won't play it, and would like to see some kind of support for it until the promised land comes along.

 

[steve dave]

If you are thinking Flash is going to disappear tomorrow because HTML5 (incomplete as it is) is here, think again. It's going to be around for a while, like it or not. There is a LOT of flash content out there, all of which will take time and money to convert. Money that sites, in the current economy, are unwilling to spend just because there is new tech to replace it. So settle back and wait. Hope you brought a snack. It may be a while.

If you don't need flash, awesome! I'm sure you're proud of your freedom from the evil. But lots of us do use flash content, are not entirely happy that our new toy won't play it, and would like to see some kind of support for it until the promised land comes along.

Well if you would have done the least amount of research about it before you bought it, you wouldn't have to cry about your new toy now. It was well known that adobe wasn't going to support JB. If you are unhappy then return it and get an ICS tab. I hope you brought a snack because you are going to be waiting a while for official flash support on JB

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[MikeLip]

Well if you would have done the least amount of research about it before you bought it, you wouldn't have to cry about your new toy now. It was well known that adobe wasn't going to support JB. If you are unhappy then return it and get an ICS tab. I hope you brought a snack because you are going to be waiting a while for official flash support on JB

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I read every article that came out and was well aware that Flash would not be supported. I don't recall shedding a single tear over it. In fact the only tears I shed so far today was from a gut-busting caption on Regretsy. God, that's some funny stuff. I am pointing out to the technophiles who think anyone who doesn't instantly embrace the latest pseudo-standard is a dinosaur that there may be some slight fault in their reasoning.

 

[anon(394005)]

Yeah, xp is great. Using ie8 makes me question your motives. It's not better than any alternative.

My motive is to use what works best for me, whether that's IE8, Flash, or the stock browser on my Android phone. Tried other browsers (desktop and mobile) and there is always a negative that keeps me from using them. In the case of IE8, I prefer its UI, the bookmark system and the fact I can clear cache, history, and cookies via a command line (rundll32.exe InetCpl.cpl,ClearMyTracksByProcess 255), something Firefox cannot do. Not to mention Firefox's bookmark system, UI wise, IMO is archaic and still stuck in the 90's. And functionally, I can?t manipulate the bookmark system directly via the file system (because bookmarks are stored in database type files), whereas in IE I can since each bookmark is a file.

Anyway, I digress, back to the topic at hand where I agree with the points made above by MikeLip!

 

[zedorda]

OMG this whole thread and all your complaining is stemming from laziness not willing to install Flash yourself. I salute Google for not including Flash. I understand Flash is a extremely wide used within the internet but without products and services that leave Flash behind we will not see the end of Flash for a decade or so. I don't think anyone believes it will be an overnite switch. HTML5 is just one of many options for Flash replacement so just because HTML5 is not finished is not a reason to still use Flash.

 

[adamfrayne182]

I honestly rarely run into sites that still use flash on my Nexus 7.

 

[jaxdave]

Does anyone else see this issue as analogous to the energy debate? Off in the future is a better way to do things but we still live and operate in the present. I'm looking forward to the day when wind, sun, algae, or water powers the economy and my car but I don't think we need to close all the gas stations just yet. I'm not sure making the decision to just walk everywhere will hasten the technology along.

 

[MikeLip]

Nah. The future will be a Mad Max-esque dystopia with Mel Gibson watching a flash movie on his antique XP desktop (powered by some girl with Big Hair and spike heels turning a crank) sitting on the roof of a burned out hulk of some '60s muscle car with no gas available ANYWHERE. The horror.

 

[pokingmon]

Regardless of weather or not Flash is still present across the net and that many users still need it, mobile devices will eventually be completely void of it if Adobe is unwilling to continue it's development for newer devices and mobile operating systems.

On top of that, the percentage of devices that access and use the internet is seeing it's "mobile device" pie piece get bigger and bigger. It's already overtaken personal computing devices in a few countries now and it's only a matter of time before that happens in other parts of the countries. That's just the direction technology is headed. There will eventually be no real reason to have a large stationary work horse when the one in your pocket can already do those things.

With those things combined, I'd say it's fair to call a lot of these complaints "whining", if not "kicking and screaming" considering there is nothing anyone can really do about it. So the faster the web gets to mobile device compatible standards and replacements for Flash, the better off everyone will be.

Should we email all the sites we use that still rely on Flash asking them to upgrade to HTML5? I don't know. Will that accomplish anything? Will they suddenly say 'ahh yes, let's do that!'? I doubt it, because it's such an obvious and widely known predicament that it's highly unlikely sites like Amazon.com don't already know Flash's days are numbered. It comes down to weather or not it's negatively impacting these websites as far as visits and income. Once enough people have started slipping away from Instant Video and they can attribute that change to users without Flash, THEN they will start to change their tune. It could be millions of users or just a few thousand- I don't know, I'm not Amazon.

Until then we can just be thankful that we can sideload Flash and use a compatible browser until that method runs it's course. After that we'll just have to adapt to sites and content that uses HTML5.