Question about Full charge notification, how do I know when it's full?

[mustang7757]

Thanks everyone for the input. I've decided to just keep it charged an additional 10 mins after reaching 100% for now.

Battery life could be better. I lose 1% within 3 mins of removing from the charger and currently I lose 10% for eight hours of idle overnight. I still haven't gone into the notifications or other settings that might be eating up battery life. I suppose it also has to do with my not updating my phone to the latest firmware just yet.




I'm on the preinstalled firmware and have not updated just yet so I don't think it comes with gboard, I certainly can't find it anywhere in the settings. It's no big deal, just a weird quirk I noticed, it's not as if I spend all day doing voice searches that include a lot of swear words.

I think you should be fine .

 

[fuzzylumpkin]

As I alluded to in an above comment, you shouldn't fall into the trap of thinking the percentage that's displayed is totally accurate.

Leaving it plugged in for ten minutes longer won't (shouldn't) do anything. If the phone thinks the battery is at 100% capacity it won't charge it any more, because that's how explosions happen.

 

[Golfdriver97]

I lose 1% within 3 mins of removing from the charger and currently I lose 10% for eight hours of idle overnight.

The losing charge depends on whats going on. Facebook, GPS, Bluetooth, wifi, etc, may all be going on in the background. Always so hard to pin point. As long as the battery drop isn't like it's going off a cliff the second you take it off the charger, I wouldn't worry about it.

 

[Laura Knotek]

Battery life could be better. I lose 1% within 3 mins of removing from the charger and currently I lose 10% for eight hours of idle overnight. I still haven't gone into the notifications or other settings that might be eating up battery life. I suppose it also has to do with my not updating my phone to the latest firmware just yet.

About 10% drain for 8 hours idle overnight isn't bad.

The losing charge depends on whats going on. Facebook, GPS, Bluetooth, wifi, etc, may all be going on in the background. Always so hard to pin point. As long as the battery drop isn't like it's going off a cliff the second you take it off the charger, I wouldn't worry about it.

I agree. If the battery drain becomes excessive in short order, then it might be worthwhile to check device health battery to see if there's a rogue app draining the battery.

 

[fthis f]

Thanks for all those trying to explain the LED thing but I'm afraid your explanations exceed my ability to understand this matter. As far as I can tell, with this new phone, there is no "extra" charging going like with my last one. I just revert to my old habit from back in my Nokia and Ericsson days to fully charge the phone the first couple of times to "cycle" it. Whether that holds true or not with modern phones, it's an old habit that continue to practice with all my new devices and appliances fitted with a battery.

The losing charge depends on whats going on. Facebook, GPS, Bluetooth, wifi, etc, may all be going on in the background. Always so hard to pin point. As long as the battery drop isn't like it's going off a cliff the second you take it off the charger, I wouldn't worry about it.

It's only a couple days old but what stands out is that it loses 1-2% within 10 mins after being unplugged. I usually just check unread viber messages, one or two, and go into the settings for a bit and that's it. After the initial 1-2% it seems to discharge slower.

I've turned off most of the notifications, no location or bluetooth. I haven't set up a new phone since 2016 or 2017, it seems push notifications are no longer a thing within the settings menu. I don't seem to be able to find it anywhere so I'm just turning off notifications one at a time as they pop up in my pull down tab.

As far as usage so far, i did a 2 hour video call (exactly) on viber and lost 41%, that was after my first two charges. Currently I lose about 15% in an hour with light use, idling, going into the settings, reading one or two articles on the browser (chrome) and less than 5 minutes of youtube. Not sure how that holds up against the rest of your phones but I'm hoping the idle times improve once I update my phone to the latest firmware.

 

[mustang7757]

Thanks for all those trying to explain the LED thing but I'm afraid your explanations exceed my ability to understand this matter. As far as I can tell, with this new phone, there is no "extra" charging going like with my last one. I just revert to my old habit from back in my Nokia and Ericsson days to fully charge the phone the first couple of times to "cycle" it. Whether that holds true or not with modern phones, it's an old habit that continue to practice with all my new devices and appliances fitted with a battery.



It's only a couple days old but what stands out is that it loses 1-2% within 10 mins after being unplugged. I usually just check unread viber messages, one or two, and go into the settings for a bit and that's it. After the initial 1-2% it seems to discharge slower.

I've turned off most of the notifications, no location or bluetooth. I haven't set up a new phone since 2016 or 2017, it seems push notifications are no longer a thing within the settings menu. I don't seem to be able to find it anywhere so I'm just turning off notifications one at a time as they pop up in my pull down tab.

As far as usage so far, i did a 2 hour video call (exactly) on viber and lost 41%, that was after my first two charges. Currently I lose about 15% in an hour with light use, idling, going into the settings, reading one or two articles on the browser (chrome) and less than 5 minutes of youtube. Not sure how that holds up against the rest of your phones but I'm hoping the idle times improve once I update my phone to the latest firmware.

Yeah with video call that's expected, also every Android phone I've own drain 2 to 3 percent right off the bat as long as you get a day or close you should be ok.

Another thing if you want pretty good battery is keep it in medium battery mode , but won't get push notifications right away and screen brightness, CPU will be throttle a little.


Screen shot on the battery mode I'm referring to by long press battery icon in pull down notification panel

 

[fuzzylumpkin]

Yeah with video call that's expected, also every Android phone I've own drain 2 to 3 percent right off the bat as long as you get a day or close you should be ok.

Another thing if you want pretty good battery is keep it in medium battery mode , but won't get push notifications right away and screen brightness, CPU will be throttle a little.


Screen shot on the battery mode I'm referring to by long press battery icon in pull down notification panelView attachment 321072

Indeed, video calling is one of the most battery intensive things you can do outside of gaming.

There's also adaptive battery as shown in your screenshot, although I'm not convinced it actually works.

 

[Mooncatt]

It's only a couple days old but what stands out is that it loses 1-2% within 10 mins after being unplugged. I usually just check unread viber messages, one or two, and go into the settings for a bit and that's it. After the initial 1-2% it seems to discharge slower.

It's normal to higher than usual battery discharge for up to a week on a new phone as it settles in and becomes optimized to your usage habits.

I also wouldn't worry about that first 1-2% when unplugging. The capacity is parole determined by battery voltage, and voltage differential is how charging is accomplished. The input voltage from the charger is higher than that of the battery, which then causes the battery voltage to go higher than it's resting state. You can see this if you use an app like AccuBattery. When a phone reaches 100% and you unplug it right at that moment, the voltage quickly drops a bit and that shows up as capacity loss. This is normal and expected.

If you watch the actual charge current in AccuBattery, that is based on actual charging performance and not what a gauge says. Gauges can be calibrated however the manufacture wants, but charging circuits look at voltage and current. It's not recommended due to battery longevity concerns, but if you left the phone plugged in until the charge current actually shuts off, it would stay at 100% longer.

 

[mustang7757]

Indeed, video calling is one of the most battery intensive things you can do outside of gaming.

There's also adaptive battery as shown in your screenshot, although I'm not convinced it actually works.

Yeah video calling for sure, medium power saving definitely saves power.

 

[Adam Frix]

As far as I can tell, with this new phone, there is no "extra" charging going like with my last one.

Exactly what factual information are you using to draw that conclusion?

 

[fthis f]

Thanks for all the additional input. For now I will be using the default "optimal" battery setting as a basis for comparison. I've had the phone for 5 days now and I'm starting to use it normally which means much less usage from me as I had spent the last few days downloading apps and getting my accounts sorted. Battery life still doesn't seem great. I went for a walk yesterday and lost 11% in an hour and 45 mins, very light use, I took about 15 pics, no gps, bluetooth or data. After 9 hours of light use at home with wifi on the whole time, I was down to 50%, much less than I'm used to with my old phone. I'm wondering if it might be the screen, I have AOD on all the time and adaptive brightness on. I recently discovered the SYNC setting on the drop down menu was turned on so I will be testing if turning that off helps.

Exactly what factual information are you using to draw that conclusion?

Nothing factual or exact I'm just choosing to trust that the new phone with a different software/os charges differently from my old one. Also, I've noticed on Ampere that I used with my old phone, it says " fully charged" at 100% which is what I would get when the led on my old phone turned green.

 

[Adam Frix]

I tried AOD when I first got it, and it's a SERIOUS draw on battery.

Turn that off and watch it all change.

Make no assumptions at all about how a different phone with different OS behaves.

 

[the_boon]

I tried AOD when I first got it, and it's a SERIOUS draw on battery.

Turn that off and watch it all change.

Make no assumptions at all about how a different phone with different OS behaves.

Hence why I'm clamoring for the return of the notification LED

I feel like the AOD drain will vary from one user to another.

If one is barely touching their phone during the entire day, it might very well be the first in the battery usage list.

If someone is gonna put 5-7 hours of SOT, then it will definitely be lower than the "display" drain, and maybe also lower than "Android system" .

 

[Mike Dee]

Hence why I'm clamoring for the return of the notification LED

I feel like the AOD drain will vary from one user to another.

If one is barely touching their phone during the entire day, it might very well be the first in the battery usage list.

If someone is gonna put 5-7 hours of SOT, then it will definitely be lower than the "display" drain, and maybe also lower than "Android system" .

Hence why I'm clamoring for the return of the notification LED

I feel like the AOD drain will vary from one user to another.

If one is barely touching their phone during the entire day, it might very well be the first in the battery usage list.

If someone is gonna put 5-7 hours of SOT, then it will definitely be lower than the "display" drain, and maybe also lower than "Android system" .

I used AOD on my devices that had LEDs because LEDs do not serve the same purpose as AOD.

 

[patriciasrp]

Some devices will indicate it with light or a sound. On the other hand, some will show 100% in the battery icon. Anyhow you can customize this indicating function.
Just go to System UI >BATTERY FULL
Anyhow, I used the bundled charger and USB-C cable, it took around 1 hour to achieve 55%, which means basically it takes 90 minutes or so to have a full charge.