QUESTION : Nexus 5 or Moto X?

[Jerry Hildenbrand]

What is the G2 doing that you do not see the Nexus? Can you give me an example?

I do agree that getting good shots on the nexus isn't easy. You have to wrestle with it to trick it into doing what you want. One example that annoys me is HDR focusing. It ignores my tap to focus and simply focuses on the center of the image no matter what when I press the button.

Accurate color, proper DoF, quick auto-focus, lower ISO, better dynamic range, less noise. This is all because LG pays Sony and Kodak (and likely others) for their software to build a JPG from the RAW data. Google isn't keen on adding too much proprietary stuff, and wants you to use Google+ to "fix" your images. I don't blame them, but their decision shows. The Nexus 5 has a better camera than past Nexus phones, but it's mediocre at best. Same goes for the Moto X, and the Moto G (which has a poor camera all around).

Notice how much better video looks from the N5 or MX than stills do. The software to build mp4 files is easier to license for distribution, and Google includes the same software as Apple or Samsung or HTC. It shows.

The aren't doing it to be cheap. They're doing it so they can post factory images with less hassle.

And yes, the Camera UI needs work, but that's typical Google. They'll fix all those tiny issues eventually. They are aggravating, but a third party camera app can fix them.

 

[UJ95x]

Accurate color, proper DoF, quick auto-focus, lower ISO, better dynamic range, less noise. This is all because LG pays Sony and Kodak (and likely others) for their software to build a JPG from the RAW data. Google isn't keen on adding too much proprietary stuff, and wants you to use Google+ to "fix" your images. I don't blame them, but their decision shows. The Nexus 5 has a better camera than past Nexus phones, but it's mediocre at best. Same goes for the Moto X, and the Moto G (which has a poor camera all around).

Notice how much better video looks from the N5 or MX than stills do. The software to build mp4 files is easier to license for distribution, and Google includes the same software as Apple or Samsung or HTC. It shows.

The aren't doing it to be cheap. They're doing it so they can post factory images with less hassle.

And yes, the Camera UI needs work, but that's typical Google. They'll fix all those tiny issues eventually. They are aggravating, but a third party camera app can fix them.

From what I've seen and read. The G2 CAN be a really good camera but tends to be very inconsistent. I also heard it takes a long time to focus in low light

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[Shilohcane]

Amazon charges $529.99 for a Motorola Moto X - 16GB Unlocked Phone and $539.99 for the 16GB LG G2. Most of the hardware in the Nexus 5 is the same as the LG G2 minus the camera, screen, Texas Instruments power regulator and larger battery as the LG G2.

If they were identical in parts, software or even function then who would pay $539.99 for LG G2 when you could get the Nexus 5 at only $349? I am sure that LG told Google they had to make the Nexus 5 worst in a few functions so they didn't kill off sales of their LG G2. Sure I want my Nexus 5 to be the best phone in the world at every feature but when I am getting it for 40% less than most flagship phones I got to except some flaws over the more expensive phone.

I have a friend that house burned down and lost everything with no insurance that I want to buy him a smart phone. However until the Moto G comes out in 2014 for $170 you can't even find a quality used smartphone on Ebay. I thought I could pick up a Nexus 4 on Ebay but they are still selling the N4 at the same price as the new Nexus 5 from Google. At this point I am getting him a new LG Optimus F3 or maybe F6 from Metro PCS/T-Mobile since it is the best phone specs for the buck that I can find. What Google is doing by selling this Nexus 5 at $349 is the best deal in the country for what you get for your money.

 

[planoman]

Amazon charges $529.99 for a Motorola Moto X - 16GB Unlocked Phone and $539.99 for the 16GB LG G2. Most of the hardware in the Nexus 5 is the same as the LG G2 minus the camera, screen, Texas Instruments power regulator and larger battery as the LG G2.

If they were identical in parts, software or even function then who would pay $539.99 for LG G2 when you could get the Nexus 5 at only $349? I am sure that LG told Google they had to make the Nexus 5 worst in a few functions so they didn't kill off sales of their LG G2. Sure I want my Nexus 5 to be the best phone in the world at every feature but when I am getting it for 40% less than most flagship phones I got to except some flaws over the more expensive phone.

I have a friend that house burned down and lost everything with no insurance that I want to buy him a smart phone. However until the Moto G comes out in 2014 for $170 you can't even find a quality used smartphone on Ebay. I thought I could pick up a Nexus 4 on Ebay but they are still selling the N4 at the same price as the new Nexus 5 from Google. At this point I am getting him a new LG Optimus F3 or maybe F6 from Metro PCS/T-Mobile since it is the best phone specs for the buck that I can find. What Google is doing by selling this Nexus 5 at $349 is the best deal in the country for what you get for your money.

Get a lumia 520. It is under 100 bucks.

Sent from my bada$$ Nexus 5

 

[yfan]

I owned the nexus 4 and currently own the moto x. While the 4 isn't the new nexus 5 they are similar in ways. I was in the same boat as you but on a different carrier. I seriously waited out the nexus announcement because that was the phone I wanted. Then it came and I wasn't as impressed as I thought I'd be. Yes it has a large screen and the newest os but that is all I can see that it has going for it. From what I read the battery is sub par, camera is mediocre and the design seems uninspired. [...]

Plus I heard the nexus has once again a crappy speaker... Ugh.

Please please please stop believing everything you hear and read, and especially giving comparison opinions based on things you read about phones you haven't used. I have owned the Nexus 4, and now the Nexus 5, and I can categorically say that the difference is fairly big. The screen is a lot crisper on the Nexus 5 - I didn't think it would make much of a difference either, until I actually got it and felt the difference. Video playback (YouTube, etc.) especially is gorgeous on the N5. The Nexus 5's battery is not "sub par." In fact, it is excellent. I don't know if it compares to the Moto X, as I don't own a Moto X, but it certainly is more than enough to take moderate to moderate-heavy usage and last an entire waking day.

The camera, the camera. The camera on the N5 in my experience has been fantastic, and much better than most of the reviews I read or hear. Photos are meant to be shared and preserved, and despite all the loud moaning about color saturation and white balance, the Nexus 5's photos are good looking, vivid, and fun to share. The OIS is a godsend. Despite having an 8MP camera, same as in the N4, the N5 camera's quality blows the N4's out of the water.

I have the nexus 5 and I am selling it for the x, which I ordered today. I like the nexus 5 but I miss the battery life of the x and the radio. I live in Salt Lake City and there is great LTE coverage, but with the nexus im in and out all day long. The battery is very subpar and connecting to wifi is horrible. I cannot connect to worth because the range of the nexus Sucks. Besides that the phone is solid, but the active notifications, always listening, build quality and assist puts this phone up on top IMHO. Now only if the wood backs were available.

I have no beef against the Moto X, and congrats on your new phone. However, it is possible that you simply had a faulty Nexus 5 unit. I have had no wifi issues or signal drops in known coverage areas for my carrier (T-Mobile).

Accurate color, proper DoF, quick auto-focus, lower ISO, better dynamic range, less noise. This is all because LG pays Sony and Kodak (and likely others) for their software to build a JPG from the RAW data. Google isn't keen on adding too much proprietary stuff, and wants you to use Google+ to "fix" your images. I don't blame them, but their decision shows.

Bingo, and this is why I don't think you can have a proper comparison of the picture quality without taking Google+ auto-enhance into account. My Nexus 5 takes what I think are great photos, but I don't even worry if one photo isn't so great at first, because I know Google will make it auto-awesome! The user experience spans that auto-awesome, and while that is not technically a property of the phone itself, it's something that deserves consideration in reviews, because to the user, it really doesn't matter if a software on the phone is doing the enhancing or something on the web.

 

[Tony_YYZ]

FYI, Verizon has started a staged rollout of Android 4.4 KitKat starting today for the Moto X.

Cheers.

 

[Adranalyne]

FYI, Verizon has started a staged rollout of Android 4.4 KitKat starting today.

Cheers.

Unreal how not only the Moto X, but the VERIZON Moto X, got this first.

 

[Tony_YYZ]

Unreal how not only the Moto X, but the VERIZON Moto X, got this first.

Yeah, nobody would have ever guessed that would happen.

 

[JeffDenver]

FYI, Verizon has started a staged rollout of Android 4.4 KitKat starting today for the Moto X.

This is why skins are a bad thing. Moto made the right decision.

 

[Haalcyon]

This is why skins are a bad thing. Moto made the right decision.

Only if having the very latest version of Android is a priority for you. For most Android owners it is not. Once your phone works and works well that's all MOST folks care about. Then there's that enthusiast that loses sleep worrying about when she's gonna get the latest version. Nothing wrong with that, she's the one losing sleep.

G Pad 8.3

 

[JeffDenver]

Only if having the very latest version of Android is a priority for you. For most Android owners it is not. Once your phone works and works well that's all MOST folks care about. Then there's that enthusiast that loses sleep worrying about when she's gonna get the latest version. Nothing wrong with that, she's the one losing sleep.

IMO the reason you do not see a demand for vanilla android is simply because most people do not know it exists. They think the skins are normal android.

The Moto X is an excellent example of why Vanilla Android is better than Skinned Android. It's popularity is a validation of Vanilla Android.

 

[Haalcyon]

Re: QUESTION : Moto X or Nexus 5???

I have a Nexus 5 and G2 now. I've also had TouchWiz having devices. There are features that TouchWiz presents that "Vanilla" android should have, but doesn't. Everyone doesn't want plain lettuce. ...yes, it's better for you. Some people, however, want some flavor on their salad, even at the cost of the salad being a bit less healthy. I can understand that sentiment.

G Pad 8.3

 

[JeffDenver]

Re: QUESTION : Moto X or Nexus 5???

I have a Nexus 5 and G2 now. I've also had TouchWiz having devices. There are features that TouchWiz presents that "Vanilla" android should have, but doesn't. Everyone doesn't want plain lettuce.

Maybe they will prefer plain lettuce as well...how will they know until they try it? Moto X is giving a lot of people a taste of it and apparently a lot of them like it.

 

[Haalcyon]

Re: QUESTION : Moto X or Nexus 5???

Maybe they will prefer plain lettuce as well...how will they know until they try it? Moto X is giving a lot of people a taste of it and apparently a lot of them like it.

Absolutely. You're absolutely right. You couldn't be more right. Can you pass the salad dressing please?

G Pad 8.3

 

[Golfdriver97]

Re: QUESTION : Moto X or Nexus 5???

Absolutely. You're absolutely right. You couldn't be more right. Can you pass the salad dressing please?

G Pad 8.3

Maybe it should be TouchWiz eating the salad. It needs a diet.

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[Haalcyon]

Re: QUESTION : Moto X or Nexus 5???

Maybe it should be TouchWiz eating the salad. It needs a diet.

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Aaaah brother, TouchWiz definitely needs a diet but me not want it to be skin and bones either. A lady with a figure if you will.

G Pad 8.3

 

[Ry]

IMO the reason you do not see a demand for vanilla android is simply because most people do not know it exists. They think the skins are normal android.

The Moto X is an excellent example of why Vanilla Android is better than Skinned Android. It's popularity is a validation of Vanilla Android.

Popularity of "vanilla" Android? For regular customers, they probably bought a Moto X because they were drawn in by it's features - Touchless Control, Quick Capture, customization.

 

[essinger]

Wait what?! You must be confused because an unlocked, off-contract Moto X is selling for $450 at Verizon and other carriers, with some selling it for $500. Don't know where you're getting your info, but just wanted to let you know that you're incorrect. Granted, it is still more expensive, but it has gone down A LOT in price and $450 for a Moto X is a GREAT price.

Forgive my ignorance, but how much value is an unlocked Verizon Moto X? What other carriers can you use it on?

 

[Ry]

Anyone got a link for a Verizon Moto X off-contract for $450?

 

[Golfdriver97]

Re: QUESTION : Moto X or Nexus 5???

Aaaah brother, TouchWiz definitely needs a diet but me not want it to be skin and bones either. A lady with a figure if you will.

G Pad 8.3

Lol...I am not saying we should turn TW into an emaciated form....but it is rather obese.

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