Regarding Dec. 9 no longer being the unofficial date

If I were Verizon I'd bump it back passed the extended return time in Jan so everyone that rented a razr or rezound has to keep it. Not that they are bad phone or anything but just to not have thousands of refurbs....

Yeah, I never liked the whole idea of "renting". I mean if anything it just shows them in the short run that more people wanted the Razr or that they were justified in pushing the Galaxy Nexus back because people got tired of waiting and bought the Razr instead. Plus I don't feel like giving them $35 extra because I am impatient.
 
Bumping it back though does not nesecsarily screw you. You could just do a straight return before the deadline and keep waiting, assuming you have a backup phone. I will not let verzion pull that stunt on me.
 
Yeah, I never liked the whole idea of "renting". I mean if anything it just shows them in the short run that more people wanted the Razr or that they were justified in pushing the Galaxy Nexus back because people got tired of waiting and bought the Razr instead. Plus I don't feel like giving them $35 extra because I am impatient.

Some of us don't care about.dropping $35 dollars if it gives us a chance to forget about the phone we got stuck w/ for 2 long years. I'd do it again in a heartbeat if I could.
 
Some of us don't care about.dropping $35 dollars if it gives us a chance to forget about the phone we got stuck w/ for 2 long years. I'd do it again in a heartbeat if I could.

Well I guess that's true. I mean I don't have it as hard as some people since I have the Thunderbolt, although my mom has the OG Droid and I told her that I would give her the Thunderbolt once I got the Galaxy Nexus. I go to Ohio to see her and the rest of the family on the 22nd, so I'm just as impatient for it to release before then as anyone else in that regard, but I'm not going to give them an extra $35 when I already dropped $250 in March and will drop $300 hopefully on Thursday.
 
It's not about knocking down the network it's about actually activating the phone.

The issues we were having yesterday were preventing or delaying the activation of 4G phones and the Droid RAZR was having SIM card authentication problems. They are NOT going to do a 4G phone launch in the middle of that can you imagine how irritated the customers wll be. A 4G phone can take up to 15-20 mins to activate under normal conditions, now add this to the mix and you are asking for trouble.
I apologize, but a 4G phone can take 15-20 minutes to activate if a baboon is doing it.
 
No but the SIM card authentication error seemed to be. Out of curiosity has anyone with at Samsung Stratosphere or Galaxy Tab 10.1 had that error? those are the only three (as far as I know) devices using MicroSIM's? Was wondering earlier today if that could have something do do with it. at all since I didn't have it on my Xoom or Bionic which are both Moto but use full sized sims.

EDIT: scratch that theory, just saw the post from bworley50 about the Stratosphere

No problems with Stratosphere, except for the outage that affected...well, those who were affected.
 
I've experienced something similar with my OG Droid when using a non-motorola wall charger. My phone will go ape crazy and for the most part, unresponsive.

I don't see this as an issue with the GN. Just use a good cable...or what's provided from Samsung. Use proper accessories and devices.

I don't believe this is what's holding back the GN from launching today.
 
If I were Verizon I'd bump it back passed the extended return time in Jan so everyone that rented a razr or rezound has to keep it. Not that they are bad phone or anything but just to not have thousands of refurbs....
Honestly that's what I though they would do all along.
 
Honestly that's what I though they would do all along.

But the thing is you can still return them. If it looks like it is going to push past your return date, return it, dont exchange it, and then wait a little more. Pushing it back that far would not gain them any thing unless you just did not have another phone you could use in the interum.
 
But the thing is you can still return them. If it looks like it is going to push past your return date, return it, dont exchange it, and then wait a little more. Pushing it back that far would not gain them any thing unless you just did not have another phone you could use in the interum.

What he said. People seem to be forgetting that you can exchange OR return, so there's no way anyone would be "stuck" with a Razr or Rezound unless they chose to keep it.
 
What he said. People seem to be forgetting that you can exchange OR return, so there's no way anyone would be "stuck" with a Razr or Rezound unless they chose to keep it.

Plus you have longer than the 14days I got a Rezound November 19tb and I'm good on a return till mid Jan. As long as you bought it after nov 15th. Even got VZW to send me a txt saying so.
 
yea but people are trying to say that Verizon is pushing it back to screw all the renters. The renters are only screwed if they want to be. They just have to return and verizon's dasterdly plot is foiled.

In other words, I call BS on the pushing back to screw renters theory.
 
Isn't there a restocking fee no matter what? I would only "rent" if there were no fees.

Yes, that's always been the case. For some people, $35 is worth it, for others, not so much.

Which does remind me of one other small potential plus/minus of renting...

for those who rented on Nov 15, let's say they decide to exchange it for the nexus on January 1. Does their 2 year contract "clock" begin on Nov 15 or Jan 1?

If the 2 year contract does begin in November, they also essentially paid $35 to reduce their 2 year contract by a month-and-a-half or so.