[ROM] Android Open Kang Project

[Cyber Warrior]

I got Milestone 5 on phone along with GAPPS, ready to flash and try something other than Bugless finally. I just can't get a Nandroid done, I found my issue but the fix for others doesn't work for me. This is what I get, either using ROM manager or going into recovery to do a Nandroid.

If I try to do a backup, Recovery stops with an error when it gets to ".android-secure".
Error: "Unable to find volume. Error finding an appropriate backup handler."

I have read that finding the .android-secure folder and deleting it works for others but I can't find it on my device, using Astro or PC I can't find that folder?

Try using the app Root Explorer.

 

[AZDROIDX]

Thanks, never had a chance to buy this app but was always on my list. I'll give it a try.

 

[AZDROIDX]

Try using the app Root Explorer.

Got it, found it doing a search on Root Explorer and about to try a Nandroid.

Update: Nandroid is done and will be trying AOKP tonight. Then maybe a few others in the coming weeks!

 

[MRW1215]

2.I have not noticed my phone get any hotter than it normally does. Are you using your phone more with the new ROM (exploring features and such) than you did with stock without realizing it?

Not that I can tell, no. The only extensive amount of time I spent on it was when I first flashed it, as I was setting everything up. The day after, I was pretty much back to normal use. Didn't seem as hot yesterday, though. I dunno, maybe it was just my imagination...? Ah well.

4. flashing a new milestone rom WILL reset all of your settings unless you do a dirty flash (flash directly over the old ROM without wiping data/factory reset, wiping cache and wiping dalvik) However doing a dirty flash between milestones is NOT recommended as it could cause issues with the new installation. the good thing is you can use titanium backup to back up your downloaded apps and data (you should never backup system apps and data) and you can move all of your SDcard files to your computer before the flash, both of which will greatly reduce your set up time. I just flashed b36 from M5 last night, took me an hour to set my phone back up, which really isnt bad considering all of the crap I have on it

Ah, okay. Is it really necessary to do a complete wipe when flashing to the next version of a specific ROM? I know it's highly recommended when flashing from one ROM to a completely different ROM, but I thought it was generally okay to not do a full wipe when just "upgrading"? The only reason this bugs me is because I use Google Music, and this creates two problems...

For one, I thought I recently read somewhere that Google is now limiting the amount of devices you can "register" with the service per year, and I'd imagine when your phone is "reset", that probably counts as another device when you start using Google Music on it, right? I'd hate to get locked out of my Music service for a year, yanno?

Also, I like to have about 2GB of my favorite songs downloaded directly to my phone (just in case I'm ever having network issues, I can still listen to music), and it's kind of a pain to have to download a full two gigs every time I do a wipe, especially given how slow my home Internet is.

 

[dmmarck]

Not that I can tell, no. The only extensive amount of time I spent on it was when I first flashed it, as I was setting everything up. The day after, I was pretty much back to normal use. Didn't seem as hot yesterday, though. I dunno, maybe it was just my imagination...? Ah well.



Ah, okay. Is it really necessary to do a complete wipe when flashing to the next version of a specific ROM? I know it's highly recommended when flashing from one ROM to a completely different ROM, but I thought it was generally okay to not do a full wipe when just "upgrading"? The only reason this bugs me is because I use Google Music, and this creates two problems...

For one, I thought I recently read somewhere that Google is now limiting the amount of devices you can "register" with the service per year, and I'd imagine when your phone is "reset", that probably counts as another device when you start using Google Music on it, right? I'd hate to get locked out of my Music service for a year, yanno?

Also, I like to have about 2GB of my favorite songs downloaded directly to my phone (just in case I'm ever having network issues, I can still listen to music), and it's kind of a pain to have to download a full two gigs every time I do a wipe, especially given how slow my home Internet is.

Re: wiping, yes you should do it. Can you get away with it if you're "updating"? Maybe. But do you really want the headaches if you have to do redo it?

Re: Google Play Music, the deauthorization limit of 4 has been lifted, at least temporarily. I suggest going in and clearing out everything except say your computers, that way you have plenty of space. Presumably they'll allow people who simply "reauthorize" a single device to do so, particularly since they realize how popular flashing/romming is to the Android public.

Re: downloading; don't the songs download to your SDcard? If so, they won't get wiped unless you lock your phone backup.

 

[MRW1215]

Re: wiping, yes you should do it. Can you get away with it if you're "updating"? Maybe. But do you really want the headaches if you have to do redo it?.

I suppose, but worst case scenario, I just make a backup with CWM before flashing the update, then if there's any problems, just roll back to my backup, right?

Re: downloading; don't the songs download to your SDcard? If so, they won't get wiped unless you lock your phone backup.

I'm not sure where the songs download to, to be honest. I've always wondered that, myself, but I haven't been able to find out exactly where they download. And being that the GNex (at least, the Verizon one) doesn't allow for physical microSD cards, wouldn't a full wipe still completely clear everything off the phone's internal storage? Even if it left the downloaded songs alone, would it still register with Google Music that the songs on the phone are from my GM account?

 

[NotJustAPhone]

I'm not sure where the songs download to, to be honest. I've always wondered that, myself, but I haven't been able to find out exactly where they download. And being that the GNex (at least, the Verizon one) doesn't allow for physical microSD cards, wouldn't a full wipe still completely clear everything off the phone's internal storage? Even if it left the downloaded songs alone, would it still register with Google Music that the songs on the phone are from my GM account?

The tracks you download from Google Music are stored in the directory below. The filenames are just a bunch of numbers which is why searching for them doesn't work.

/sdcard/Android/data/com.google.android.music /cache/music


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[dmmarck]

I suppose, but worst case scenario, I just make a backup with CWM before flashing the update, then if there's any problems, just roll back to my backup, right?



I'm not sure where the songs download to, to be honest. I've always wondered that, myself, but I haven't been able to find out exactly where they download. And being that the GNex (at least, the Verizon one) doesn't allow for physical microSD cards, wouldn't a full wipe still completely clear everything off the phone's internal storage? Even if it left the downloaded songs alone, would it still register with Google Music that the songs on the phone are from my GM account?

Re: nandroid; yes. If the s hits the fan, restore it and you'll be fine.

Re: wiping, if it's on the SDcard (the faux, internal one) you have no worries when wiping. The only thing that deletes that is you actually deleting stuff purposely and locking/unlocking the device. Past those two measures, only a freak, unforeseen accident could do anything to it. Use Root Explorer and track down where the songs are, then move them to your /sdcard. Play Music should still be able to find them (for they are audio on your device, regardless of folder) and that way when you wipe you can be 100% certain that they're going nowhere.

 

[anon(596177)]

Re: nandroid; yes. If the s hits the fan, restore it and you'll be fine.

Re: wiping, if it's on the SDcard (the faux, internal one) you have no worries when wiping. The only thing that deletes that is you actually deleting stuff purposely and locking/unlocking the device. Past those two measures, only a freak, unforeseen accident could do anything to it. Use Root Explorer and track down where the songs are, then move them to your /sdcard. Play Music should still be able to find them (for they are audio on your device, regardless of folder) and that way when you wipe you can be 100% certain that they're going nowhere.

when u wipe it DOES remove the google music downoaded files cache. Just did this yesterday, had to re-dl

 

[MooPenguin32]

I had flashed the AOKP Milestone 5 ROM onto my device a few days ago. It worked well and didn't run into the issue I did before. I probably did something wrong the first time.

Anyways, I have two questions:

1. When preparing the device for flashing a ROM (whether it's AOKP or any other ROM), is performing the "wipe data/factory reset" in recovery sufficient, or is it recommended to do all of the other wipes as well? I would think that the wipe data/factory reset would clear everything out, but I figured I'd ask.
2. Is there a difference in how you boot into recovery mode? For example, is going into it through fast boot different from rebooting directly into recovery mode using an option the ROM provides when holding down the power button?

Thanks!

 

[dmmarck]

when u wipe it DOES remove the google music downoaded files cache. Just did this yesterday, had to re-dl

Figures. Move the files from their to the SDcard and you'll have no problems.

I had flashed the AOKP Milestone 5 ROM onto my device a few days ago. It worked well and didn't run into the issue I did before. I probably did something wrong the first time.

Anyways, I have two questions:

1. When preparing the device for flashing a ROM (whether it's AOKP or any other ROM), is performing the "wipe data/factory reset" in recovery sufficient, or is it recommended to do all of the other wipes as well? I would think that the wipe data/factory reset would clear everything out, but I figured I'd ask.
2. Is there a difference in how you boot into recovery mode? For example, is going into it through fast boot different from rebooting directly into recovery mode using an option the ROM provides when holding down the power button?

Thanks!

(1) I would always do the other wipes, just because it takes 10 seconds and it doesn't hurt. I would also format system.

(2) Well fastboot is somewhat different b/c you're pushing from a computer. But going in through the power menu, through the bootload, or through ROM Manager has no differences whatsoever.

 

[MooPenguin32]

When moving between ROMs or a major upgrade of a ROM, is it okay to do the following to move apps and their data over using Titanium Backup?

1. Perform a batch backup of all user apps + system data on the old ROM.
2. After flashing the new ROM, download Titanium Backup.
3. Perform a batch restore of missing apps with data.
4. Perform a batch restore of the data only from apps that came from the Google Play store. This is done by going into Batch, tapping on RUN next to "Restore all apps with data," tapping on the radio button next to "Data only" and only putting a check mark next to apps that originally came from the Google Play store.

I did this when moving from the stock ROM to Apex and didn't seem to run into any issues. I have read that restoring the system data is a bad idea. I just want to make sure I'm not doing anything I may be sorry for later. Also feel free to let me know if there is an easier or better way to do this.

 

[dmmarck]

I would never, ever save system data or app data. Here's why--a rom is unique. You'll "build" data differently from rom to rom; therefore, applying the old buildup of data to the new rom may present a variety of issues (force closes, crashes, etc.). Why risk it to save your levels of Angry Birds, ya know? (Not saying you are lol)

I know there are apps out there that save stuff like call logs, texts, etc.; those seem fine, and I know of several colleagues that use them. But when it comes to app data in TiBu, it's not worth it. I always restore apps without data, and by doing that, I don't run the risk of having any hidden demons in my device.

 

[MooPenguin32]

That makes sense and I certainly understand. I do have Angry Birds (lol) but haven't gotten far. I mostly play games on my iPad.

Thanks for the advice.

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[NotJustAPhone]

It's really restoring system data that causes problems for most people. I've been restoring app data using either TiBu or My Backup Pro since my TBolt days and have not run into any problems. Now, whether an app actually contains system-like data may not always be clear cut, but something like Angry Birds should not be a problem.

You just have to be aware of what you're doing and be ready to wipe and start over if you encounter problems. I think that the advice not to restore data is really to keep those new to flashing ROMs from getting into trouble. It really boils down to your experience and comfort level.

For example, on my phone, I restore over 150 apps and their accompanying data each time I flash a new ROM. If things don't work right, I can restore a nandroid or wipe data and start over. Fortunately, I haven't had any problems with restoring app data.

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[Stang68]

Just switched to AOKP from Gummy because I was having problems with the last two Gummy builds. I'm really enjoying it! Not a HUGE difference between AOSP builds like them but I am enjoying the speed and different options.

 

[tony bag o donuts]

Stang welcome to the pink unicorn!

 

[dmmarck]

AOKP really is the standard right now, so enjoy!

 

[callofduty4]

Ahhh woke up to build 37 of AOKP released and franco update build 165 #FlashingProblems

 

[dmmarck]

Ahhh woke up to build 37 of AOKP released and franco update build 165 #FlashingProblems

Thanks for the heads up, just flashed r165.