Rumor 4.0.5 in april

[MRW1215]

This is probably a long shot, but I'm hoping an update fixes some problems I've been having with certain apps and games. I know that, typically, problems like this occur because the app developer didn't optimize it for the newer OS version, but the thing is, I've looked at reviews on the Play store for the apps and games in question, narrowed it down to people on the Galaxy Nexus, and few (if any) were reporting the issues I have. Which makes no sense to me. I don't see why app issues like that wouldn't be universal to a specific phone model.

 

[anon(596177)]

I hope it improves performance. Not that the nexus doesn't perform well already, I would just like to see the keyboard lag stop and some other bug fixes.

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the unofficial 4.0.4 release completely fixed the keyboard lag, it's safe to say that it will be fixed in the official OTA.

 

[davidnc]

I never noticed the keyboard lag (stock keyboard)

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[mloebl]

I wonder if some of the delay to April is due to the rumors of that's when Google Drive is launching? Maybe some integration? I can dream

-Mike

 

[YourMobileGuru]

Do you guys think it'll fix screeching sound and microphone cutting out during phone calls?
What about constant download errors and the clock updating while the phone is asleep? The alarm failed to wake me up on 2 of the replacements I had.

I would expect the mic errors ti be fixed yes since custom roms dont have this problem that I am aware of but as for the download errors that really has to do with the radio (this phone has a really crappy radio compared to the other 4G phones). there has been some speculation that it may be hardware related but I hope not since it is so widespread.

It's not late if they don't say a release date, not.

some people talk like they're perfect at every release

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No but this phone has some pretty serious issues dropping data and slow data and poor signal in general. Other bugs are important to fix yeah but without the radio the phone is just a shiny toy that cant do much of anything.

 

[YourMobileGuru]

I wonder if some of the delay to April is due to the rumors of that's when Google Drive is launching? Maybe some integration? I can dream

-Mike

Personally I think the delay has to do with them not wanting to make it worse like they did the Thunderbolt and Revolution last year. Remember Google may push the updates but not until Verizon OK's them.

 

[Jdm4292]

Just thought of something important, does anyone know if the screen rotation time is fixed? When I rotate the screen it takes 7 seconds to respond. Is that hardware related(because the screen is so high Res)

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[dcastillo]

Just thought of something important, does anyone know if the screen rotation time is fixed? When I rotate the screen it takes 7 seconds to respond. Is that hardware related(because the screen is so high Res)

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its the software...

at least for me it is.. to prove it, try this experiment and tell me what happens

launch the camera...
click on the preview picture on the top right...

now rotate your phone...

mine rotates instantly....

 

[anon(596177)]

Just thought of something important, does anyone know if the screen rotation time is fixed? When I rotate the screen it takes 7 seconds to respond. Is that hardware related(because the screen is so high Res)

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It is indeed software, 4.0.4 also addressed this issue, the time it takes for the screen to rotate is less than 4.0.2, however it is still not instantaneous and probably never will be, but that's NOT a hardware fluke.

 

[pauldroidr2d2]

Personally I think the delay has to do with them not wanting to make it worse like they did the Thunderbolt and Revolution last year. Remember Google may push the updates but not until Verizon OK's them.

Which is what pretty much each of the phone manufacturers have to do. Except for Apple...


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[YourMobileGuru]

Which is what pretty much each of the phone manufacturers have to do. Except for Apple...


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Even the iPhone is tested on the network before updates are pushed they just dont make as big an issue out of it as they do with other devices. Partly because of the clout of Apple and partly because the devices themselves are so locked down.

 

[pauldroidr2d2]

Even the iPhone is tested on the network before updates are pushed they just dont make as big an issue out of it as they do with other devices. Partly because of the clout of Apple and partly because the devices themselves are so locked down.

I don't know why Apples updates are so much quicker. I just know in the time both of my parents have owned their iPhone 4S's those things have seen relatively regular updates. Far more than what any of us have seen on our Galaxy Nexus's in the same time period from the release date.

Initially I thought Android had an advantage over Apple because we had the ability to OTA's and Apple didn't. But, I definitely don't feel that way anymore. apple doesn't really need their carriers to push the updates since they have the ability to do it via ITunes.


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[YourMobileGuru]

I don't know why Apples updates are so much quicker. I just know in the time both of my parents have owned their iPhone 4S's those things have seen relatively regular updates. Far more than what any of us have seen on our Galaxy Nexus's in the same time period from the release date.

Initially I thought Android had an advantage over Apple because we had the ability to OTA's and Apple didn't. But, I definitely don't feel that way anymore. apple doesn't really need their carriers to push the updates since they have the ability to do it via ITunes.


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Actually iOS5 now has the ability to do OTA as well. But like I said the iPhone is a lot less complicated a platform and more locked down (apps dont interact with eachother very much) so yes it is easier to updated.

 

[pauldroidr2d2]

Actually iOS5 now has the ability to do OTA as well. But like I said the iPhone is a lot less complicated a platform and more locked down (apps dont interact with eachother very much) so yes it is easier to updated.

Yes, I know Apple has the ability to do OTA's.that is how I have done each of the several updates to my parents iPhones. It also doesn't change the fact that we have to wait weeks and sometimes months for updates to be pushed in the Android world while iPhone and iPad users do not.

To me that is an advantage especially when people would like bugs in their devices addressed and fixed.

Phone manufacturers and carriers like VZW seem to ignore the fact that many customers do not appreciate spending hundreds and sometimes thousands dollars on electronic devices and data plans only to see them dragging their feet ton necessary updates. To me these are the types of issues that prevent Android from eclipsing Apple.


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[YourMobileGuru]

Yes, I know Apple has the ability to do OTA's.that is how I have done each of the several updates to my parents iPhones. It also doesn't change the fact that we have to wait weeks and sometimes months for updates to be pushed in the Android world while iPhone and iPad users do not.

To me that is an advantage especially when people would like bugs in their devices addressed and fixed.

Phone manufacturers and carriers like VZW seem to ignore the fact that many customers do not appreciate spending hundreds and sometimes thousands dollars on electronic devices and data plans only to see them dragging their feet ton necessary updates. To me these are the types of issues that prevent Android from eclipsing Apple.


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Paul I get what you are saying but I think you missed my point about Android being a lot more complicated platform than iOS. Here's an example next time you are at their house open the browser to one of their phones and then click the share button. You will see options for bookmarks, reading list, shortcut to home screen mailing a link (using stock mail client) and Tweet (and print). That's it. Next do the same thing on your Android device and you will see options to send the link to every app on the phone that has the ability to do something with the link. Do the same thing in the gallery and see similar results.

It is this way because Apple apps are designed to do very little interacting with each-other and almost never allow you to share content with third party apps. Android is the exact opposite. Everything interacts with each-other stock and third party. This is a lot more complicated and a lot more things can go wrong and a lot more things to test. Sure they can patch a bug in the gallery or browser or twitter or whatever but changing that one little line of code can have unforeseen consequences when the app interacts with something else. This is a large reason why Android requires more testing. I know this is over simplified but I hope I have made my point.

 

[pauldroidr2d2]

Paul I get what you are saying but I think you missed my point about Android being a lot more complicated platform than iOS. Here's an example next time you are at their house open the browser to one of their phones and then click the share button. You will see options for bookmarks, reading list, shortcut to home screen mailing a link (using stock mail client) and Tweet (and print). That's it. Next do the same thing on your Android device and you will see options to send the link to every app on the phone that has the ability to do something with the link. Do the same thing in the gallery and see similar results.

It is this way because Apple apps are designed to do very little interacting with each-other and almost never allow you to share content with third party apps. Android is the exact opposite. Everything interacts with each-other stock and third party. This is a lot more complicated and a lot more things can go wrong and a lot more things to test. Sure they can patch a bug in the gallery or browser or twitter or whatever but changing that one little line of code can have unforeseen consequences when the app interacts with something else. This is a large reason why Android requires more testing. I know this is over simplified but I hope I have made my point.

I understand what you are saying. I don't disagree with you either.

I just think there are things that Google, manufacturers and e carriers need to be doing to improve the end users experience on our devices. I'm not sure if any of them are recognizing that.


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[boe]

Quick question - this is not meant as a put down just a question -

Is this rumor any more credible than the March 4.04 update?

 

[trigun123478]

Paul I get what you are saying but I think you missed my point about Android being a lot more complicated platform than iOS. Here's an example next time you are at their house open the browser to one of their phones and then click the share button. You will see options for bookmarks, reading list, shortcut to home screen mailing a link (using stock mail client) and Tweet (and print). That's it. Next do the same thing on your Android device and you will see options to send the link to every app on the phone that has the ability to do something with the link. Do the same thing in the gallery and see similar results.

It is this way because Apple apps are designed to do very little interacting with each-other and almost never allow you to share content with third party apps. Android is the exact opposite. Everything interacts with each-other stock and third party. This is a lot more complicated and a lot more things can go wrong and a lot more things to test. Sure they can patch a bug in the gallery or browser or twitter or whatever but changing that one little line of code can have unforeseen consequences when the app interacts with something else. This is a large reason why Android requires more testing. I know this is over simplified but I hope I have made my point.

Apple has full control, they say when the update is coming out and Verizon can't say anything or hold up an update. That's the way apple is with everything they do. Android updates take longer because of lack of polish, and bloat ware that Verizon adds. See Samsung for example has to release updates for The droid charge, or the Samsung Galaxy s2 or 50 other phones. So they give a small team the droid charge and say work on updating this. Verizon has full control over android devices, they test and test till there hearts desire. Samsung, Motorola or htc do not have the power apple has that is why android updates take longer. Verizon see's the Galaxy Nexus as the same as any other phone from android even though the updates are from google. I was under the assumption, that because the updates were from google they would be quicker as well, here we are almost 4 months since the phone has been out without a update. So basically complicated or not I think it boils down to fragmentation and Carrier control.

Anyway if the Nexus would of sold 4 million phones in 3 day's like the iphone does than google could have some say.

 

[YourMobileGuru]

I understand what you are saying. I don't disagree with you either.

I just think there are things that Google, manufacturers and e carriers need to be doing to improve the end users experience on our devices. I'm not sure if any of them are recognizing that.


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I think they do it's just a major paradigm shift and they are deeply entrenched in their ways of thinking. Apple for better of for worse decided "user experience is king even if it is at the expense of features" and they decided to be ok with that. Google is more along how Windows Mobile and Blackberry have always been where you have tons of options and customizations which sometimes (ok freqently) confuse users especially new ones.

iPhones are great consumption devices but when I actually try to do anything with the data (ie share it with another app) it drives me nuts because I can't do what I want. I want to be able to share a pic I just took on Google + or Facebook directly from the camera/gallery but I cant I have to open the Facebook app to do that. And dont even get me started on the notification system (or lack thereof) that they had before iOS5. Apple is slowly adding features and Android is slowly making it more user friendly but both are still limited b the original paradigms they chose when the systems were first set up.

 

[YourMobileGuru]

Apple has full control, they say when the update is coming out and Verizon can't say anything or hold up an update.

That's a common misconception and not true. Each hardware revision and software update are tested on the networks before they are pushed and if there were any show stopper bugs the most definitely could put the kibosh on them. Apple seeds several beta releases to developers and carrier testers before they are released and bugs are worked out then.