Samsung Note 7 Itch Anyone?

I had both also note 5 not as smooth but was my favorite Samsung ever. I actually think moto z force is faster than nexus 6p

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I went to go and play with it one and it was pretty smooth and it felt really good in my hands. I do have that itch for a new device but I say to myself, it's Samsung with Tochwhiz.
 
Many devices out are very attractive, but their software will not get updated as a Nexus phone does. This is for me a showstopper..
 
I can't use the Note 7 on Fi so it's a no-go for me.
Given that objection, it's unfortunate that Google hasn't made the larger of the two upcoming Nexus devices one with S-Pen support.

I also wonder what the point of Google Fi is? If Google was looking to push the carriers a little harder, they could start allowing qualified 3rd party devices onto Fi (let's say, something like the recently released carrier agnostic S7/Edge) and try to encourage manufacturers to push back against all of these carrier variations of the same device, which just leads to further Android fragmentation.
 
Many devices out are very attractive, but their software will not get updated as a Nexus phone does. This is for me a showstopper..

I have a nexus 6p and love the fast updates....but I wouldn't call it a showstopper for myself. If the current software I have running does the job, I'm ok to wait out updates unless they offer substantial improvement changes.

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I also wonder what the point of Google Fi is?

Making money is behind everything companies do. I have been a project fi user for 7 months now. My highest bill was $28. That is crazy cheap. I am on wifi at home and work all the time so fi workes perfectly for me. I however do not like being chained down to Nexus phones to be able to use project fi.

I wish they would open up project fi to all none carrier branded/locked phones. I would love to have an unlocked Samsung S7 for example (or note 7 when unlocked is released) and use them on project fi. Now that would be sweet!
 
No doubt the Note 7 will be an amazing device. I've owned every Note except the original. But I just don't use the s pen and I always, always tire of that home button. 6P is much less expensive and does everything I need. I just sold my S7 for a 64gb 6p for just $399 Granted the resale value of a Samsung will always be higher, as I used it to get the 6p, with money left over for some accesories. I'd only consider the Note 7 if everyone starts raving about it and calling it the greatest phone ever. Then I'd have to get it. :confused:
 
No doubt the Note 7 will be an amazing device. I've owned every Note except the original. But I just don't use the s pen and I always, always tire of that home button. 6P is much less expensive and does everything I need. I just sold my S7 for a 64gb 6p for just $399 Granted the resale value of a Samsung will always be higher, as I used it to get the 6p, with money left over for some accesories. I'd only consider the Note 7 if everyone starts raving about it and calling it the greatest phone ever. Then I'd have to get it. :confused:
I have been test driving note 5 from a friend for over a week as my daily driver and I have to admit, this sinker is sooo smooth and fast let alone the build quality feel in the hand is amazing.

I have no idea what all these yahoo's complaining about touchwize and lag. NONE that I'm seeing. I have Nexus 6, 6p, and 5x. And I know what buttery smooth is when I see it and I have to give it to Note 5. It checks the performance box with ease.
 
I have no idea what all these yahoo's complaining about touchwize and lag. NONE that I'm seeing. I have Nexus 6, 6p, and 5x. And I know what buttery smooth is when I see it and I have to give it to Note 5. It checks the performance box with ease.

Week is honeymoon time...it'll creep up.

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Week is honeymoon time...it'll creep up.

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I have had galaxy tab s2 since it came out. So have been using it for almost a year now. And to be honest, it is the smoothest, fastest tablet I have ever owned. Runs same touchwize as note 5. As I said, touchwize used to be a problem couple years back, not anymore more.
 
I have had galaxy tab s2 since it came out. So have been using it for almost a year now. And to be honest, it is the smoothest, fastest tablet I have ever owned. Runs same touchwize as note 5. As I said, touchwize used to be a problem couple years back, not anymore more.

Well I had an S6 for a year and while I wouldn't say it lagged like my old S3, it still had moments of stutter and pauses.

With that said, to come and start claiming people are lying and wrong because your experience is different...that's just not fair. Maybe I had a specific app that caused it? Although I don't believe that since I use very few apps, I'll leave that a possibility. New TW is lighter weight for sure, but from my experience even Nova prime wasn't able to hide some of the minor performance oddities I had. The S6 was a great device, Samsung has improved but like any oem (including LG for myself) their skin just eventually bogs down with time and I've found clearing caches and whatnot generally would resolve majority of the issues.

And with that said, the S6 can't hold a candle to the fluidity and smooth performance of my 6P.

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Given that objection, it's unfortunate that Google hasn't made the larger of the two upcoming Nexus devices one with S-Pen support.

I also wonder what the point of Google Fi is? If Google was looking to push the carriers a little harder, they could start allowing qualified 3rd party devices onto Fi (let's say, something like the recently released carrier agnostic S7/Edge) and try to encourage manufacturers to push back against all of these carrier variations of the same device, which just leads to further Android fragmentation.

For a device to be used on Fi, it has to have no problem switching between networks. That means that most North American handsets won't qualify, because most retail devices here aren't able to use GSM and CDMA the way the Nexus phones are. If a hardware partner like Samsung wants a device to be certified for Fi, they'd have to offer a version for the NA market that is unlocked the way the rest of the world's phones are and with radios capable of functioning on all major bands in use on both technologies. They prefer to sell through carriers and it likely wouldn't be worth their while to make a Fi-capable phone, unfortunately.
 
Well I had an S6 for a year and while I wouldn't say it lagged like my old S3, it still had moments of stutter and pauses.

With that said, to come and start claiming people are lying and wrong because your experience is different...that's just not fair. Maybe I had a specific app that caused it? Although I don't believe that since I use very few apps, I'll leave that a possibility. New TW is lighter weight for sure, but from my experience even Nova prime wasn't able to hide some of the minor performance oddities I had. The S6 was a great device, Samsung has improved but like any oem (including LG for myself) their skin just eventually bogs down with time and I've found clearing caches and whatnot generally would resolve majority of the issues.

And with that said, the S6 can't hold a candle to the fluidity and smooth performance of my 6P.

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When people keep bashing touchwize even on note 5 and S7, as the evil of all evil, well that is simply not true. It used it be yes but not anymore. Sorry but we have to give credit were credit is due and Samsung came a long way on this one.
 
Note 7 retail $849.
Purchase from Best Buy $349 with 2 year contract and you get a free Gear Fit 2 retail $180
$349 - $180 + $40 upgrade fee = $209

$209 vs $849 ( $849 Samsung retail )


Purchase from Verizon. Verizon retail is $864 outright or $36 for 24 months and you get a free Samsung Micro SD card retail $249
$864 - $249 + $40 upgrade fee = $655

$655 vs $849 ( Samsung retail )

I sign a new contract every 2 years anyway and get a better price plus the best coverage from Verizon.
Add in my government employee discount of 19% on data a I'm good to go.

None of that is retail price, which is what I am referring to. Note 7 -$864, overpriced.

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The first reviews are out and everybody is praising the Note 7. I am sure that the hardware is great, but I am just not sold on the software side of things. The price is also very steep.
 
I wonder if it is possible to put a stock vanilla build on a rooted Samsung Galaxy phone?
 
Here is a nice quote from the Anandtech review:
With all of this said I think the Note7 is fairly checkered. I’m sure there are people that want to buy one because it’s the only phablet on the market that really does a stylus well and if you’re someone that wants the Note7 for the stylus then you should stop reading now and go buy one because everything else on the market won’t meet your needs. If the stylus is just something that’s nice for you to have then the calculus gets much more difficult and the recommendation is no longer unconditional. The Galaxy S7 edge is currently about 750 USD and you can easily find people reselling new ones for any operator or international variants on Amazon for 600 USD or so. The Note7 does appreciably improve on the Galaxy S7 Edge, but it’s basically the S7 edge in a new package and with an S-Pen. You also get an extra 32 GB of storage which does justify the extra 100 USD that bumps the Note7 up to 850 USD.



With all of that said, I get the distinct sense that it will be much harder to justify the price well before the end of this year. The camera quality is kind of a disappointment given all of the hype at the launch of the Galaxy S7 given the dual pixel sensor and larger 1.4 micron pixels when the camera quality itself is not really an improvement over the Galaxy Note5 and is beaten out by the HTC 10. The software experience still shows dropped frames. There are still software features that feel like obvious gimmicks. The design is still lacking ID detailing. I’m sure other people will praise this device anyways but when a phone is this expensive and with smartphones in general getting polished to a mirror sheen each scratch becomes more obvious no matter how minor.


Final Words - The Samsung Galaxy Note7 (S820) Review
 
Here is a nice quote from the Anandtech review:
The camera quality is kind of a disappointment given all of the hype at the launch of the Galaxy S7 given the dual pixel sensor and larger 1.4 micron pixels when the camera quality itself is not really an improvement over the Galaxy Note5 and is beaten out by the HTC 10.

I don't know what camera he was using on the HTC, but that part is absolute crap. The S7 Edge camera is so far superior to the HTCs it's no comparison. I tried the HTC for 2 weeks for the audio after using an S7 Edge since March. I returned it because of its screen being invisible vertically when wearing polarized sunglasses and because it's camera is terrible. Last year's LG G4 camera smokes it, let alone the S7's, which is seriously by far the best camera on the market. Most reviewers agree, and I've tried many of the competitors.

On the lag part, unfortunately he's right. It took a lot longer to show up this time, but it's there and noticeable enough that after watching some of today's reviews of the Note7 indicating a bit of lag noticed in one week, I have cancelled my Note 7 purchase, and will use my 6P with Nougat as my primary phone unless somehow the 2016 Nexus has something astonishingly good to make up for its lack of stereo speakers, and it's ugly design.

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