"SD Cards are useless with cloud storage" NO THEY ARE NOT

[anon5664829]

Please don't call out members in the forum.

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[Jennifer Stough]

Edited.

Thank you.

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[bp3dots]

I see your points but as I said, having the option is always better than not having it.

And most people use 8-12 gigs from experience

Personally I use way more...

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The option to have the ext. storage isn't a great one. The OS isn't built for it, and it slows down adoption of bigger internal storage.

I've rarely seen customers fill up 8 gigs. on a phone. The ones who do are usually tech fans like us, and we are hardly the majority.

 

[bp3dots]

Simple
Because of great marketing.
Apple took an underwhelming phone, (I call it a feature phone with some smartphone functions) and marketed the crap out of it, programmed people to think it was the greatest (including myself at one point) and it sold.
You market something right it will sell no matter how bad it is.
Look at Mc hammer and vanilla ice.
Or souljah boy.
Horrible acts, yet markets correctly they sold.
The original E. T. video game for atari. So bad, yet still cleared a million
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C'mon Hustleman, you gotta be joking. Marketing will sell a bunch of things once around, but a shoddy device that isn't meeting it's user's basic functionality needs doesn't dominate the market, and become the gold standard of the industry for several generations.

Ask anyone why they like Apple products, and the common answer is, "It works." Period. That simple factor mitigates the high cost, restrictive policies, limited selections.. everything. The only people who are saying marketing drove it, or they buy them for appearances are irrational fans of other platforms. Hell, for the very reason of it's easy functionality, I got my mom one. After the first few days, I didn't even get any questions about how stuff worked. And my mom is not a tech person at all.

All the musicians you mention burned bright and fast. Once everyone saw through the hype, they were done.

If no SD was such a debilitatiing problem for the majority of the people using cellphones, you wouldn't see manufacturers moving away from them. The whole "carriers want you to spend money on data" argument is weak. even without an SD card, the vast majority of people can get a basic data plan and still not go over. Looking at accounts is an easy way to see that, and it even surprises most people when they see it. Not to mention the fact that phones with big internal storage negate that argument completely.

 

[Golfdriver97]

A lot of it all comes down to personal preference. I like having a secondary memory storage on my phones. That is actually a deal breaker for me. If Google actually gets to the point of making every manufacturer omit a secondary memory expansion, I may leave Android. I don't want my music files in the cloud. I don't want to look through my photos in the cloud. Our bandwidths are congested enough as it is without all of this cloud storage anyway. Servers and mainframes are hacked into every day, I don't want family photos or any sensitive information that I keep on my phone spread across the net.


The biggest reason people come to Android is more choices. I choose to purchase a phone with an SD card option.

 

[The Hustleman]

C'mon Hustleman, you gotta be joking. Marketing will sell a bunch of things once around, but a shoddy device that isn't meeting it's user's basic functionality needs doesn't dominate the market, and become the gold standard of the industry for several generations.

Ask anyone why they like Apple products, and the common answer is, "It works." Period. That simple factor mitigates the high cost, restrictive policies, limited selections.. everything. The only people who are saying marketing drove it, or they buy them for appearances are irrational fans of other platforms. Hell, for the very reason of it's easy functionality, I got my mom one. After the first few days, I didn't even get any questions about how stuff worked. And my mom is not a tech person at all.

All the musicians you mention burned bright and fast. Once everyone saw through the hype, they were done.

If no SD was such a debilitatiing problem for the majority of the people using cellphones, you wouldn't see manufacturers moving away from them. The whole "carriers want you to spend money on data" argument is weak. even without an SD card, the vast majority of people can get a basic data plan and still not go over. Looking at accounts is an easy way to see that, and it even surprises most people when they see it. Not to mention the fact that phones with big internal storage negate that argument completely.

"it just works " lmao

9 out of 10 of my customers with a tech problem are iphone users.

It really isn't simpler than say an Android.

Apple has celebrities using iphones and just like any product (Jordans for example) people will buy it if celebrities have it, plus they marketed it as a high end premium product. This allows them to sell yesterday's technology at today's prices.

Ask someone why they pick or are interested in Iphone you get the following

" it's an iphone "

"everybody got one"

"I have a mac"

"i got used to it when it came out so I'm comfortable and don't want to change "

Every now and then someone says" it does more than any other phone " and when you prove them wrong 35% will get something else, some stick with it, some go home to research it.

Look at Jordans.

They don't do ANYTHING that a regular pair of Nike's don't do, yet cost much more.

Why?

Marketing.

They become status symbols, to the point that people have then and can't even pay their child support or rent

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[Aquila]

In six months, people will say 64GB should be the minimum.

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It's been six months since I started saying 256 should be the minimum

 

[Aquila]

The cloud isn't the only option for replacing SD card tech. By the way, I don't think expandable storage is a bad thing... just in the form of SD cards on Android. If someone invents something that makes more sense, has much higher capacity, speed and a less buggy integration, by all means....

The cloud works for most people in that I don't think most people stream all day long. That's what pinning music/books/videos/etc is for. I personally do stream a lot of music, but I work in a place where I rarely have a signal, so I pin a couple hundred songs and change them out whenever I want to when I'm at home on wifi. That seems to me a better use of the technology, carry what you need, have the rest available in the cloud when you want it. I don't need a physical copy of every picture I've ever taken in my life... Google + has one that's accessible 24/7 from just about everywhere.

That being said, I strongly believe that internal storage should come in increments of 128 GB (137,438,953,472 bytes) and that OEM's/carriers should endeavor to ensure that no more than 2GB (or as both code and onboard storage grow) 1% used by the OS/bloat, etc. The Nexus 4 comes with around 92% of it's space actually available to the user.

 

[anon5664829]

L

"it just works " lmao

9 out of 10 of my customers with a tech problem are iphone users.

It really isn't simpler than say an Android.

Apple has celebrities using iphones and just like any product (Jordans for example) people will buy it if celebrities have it, plus they marketed it as a high end premium product. This allows them to sell yesterday's technology at today's prices.

Ask someone why they pick or are interested in Iphone you get the following

" it's an iphone "

"everybody got one"

"I have a mac"

"i got used to it when it came out so I'm comfortable and don't want to change "

Every now and then someone says" it does more than any other phone " and when you prove them wrong 35% will get something else, some stick with it, some go home to research it.

Look at Jordans.

They don't do ANYTHING that a regular pair of Nike's don't do, yet cost much more.

Why?

Marketing.

They become status symbols, to the point that people have then and can't even pay their child support or rent

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Yeah iPhones do just work. I don't understand your hate towards them at all. They are amazing phones that accomplish nearly all tasks Android devices can(stock to stock)

 

[abazigal]

"it just works " lmao

9 out of 10 of my customers with a tech problem are iphone users.

It really isn't simpler than say an Android.

What kind of problems are we talking about here?

Apple has celebrities using iphones and just like any product (Jordans for example) people will buy it if celebrities have it, plus they marketed it as a high end premium product. This allows them to sell yesterday's technology at today's prices.

What's your point, that Apple pays celebrities to use their products? How do you distinguish them from people who use Apple products simply because they prefer them?

I suppose that's why when celebrities tweet their love for competing products, it is often done from an IOS device?

 

[xnickfx]

I come completely agree with this post. What is so hard about adding a tiny little slot for a SD Card?

 

[Aquila]

I come completely agree with this post. What is so hard about adding a tiny little slot for a SD Card?

It's not the slot that's hard; it's the security and performance issues, plus IP issues with Microsoft.

 

[return_0]

"it just works " lmao

9 out of 10 of my customers with a tech problem are iphone users.

It really isn't simpler than say an Android.

Apple has celebrities using iphones and just like any product (Jordans for example) people will buy it if celebrities have it, plus they marketed it as a high end premium product. This allows them to sell yesterday's technology at today's prices.

Ask someone why they pick or are interested in Iphone you get the following

" it's an iphone "

"everybody got one"

"I have a mac"

"i got used to it when it came out so I'm comfortable and don't want to change "

Every now and then someone says" it does more than any other phone " and when you prove them wrong 35% will get something else, some stick with it, some go home to research it.

Look at Jordans.

They don't do ANYTHING that a regular pair of Nike's don't do, yet cost much more.

Why?

Marketing.

They become status symbols, to the point that people have then and can't even pay their child support or rent

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Mhm.

So if it doesn't "just work" for them, then why, as bp3dots said, did it

dominate the market, and become the gold standard of the industry for several generations.

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[The Hustleman]

L
Yeah iPhones do just work. I don't understand your hate towards them at all. They are amazing phones that accomplish nearly all tasks Android devices can(stock to stock)

Who said I hate them? I don't. Had am iphone 4 and a 3G.

I just realize they are underperforming devices that are hailed as doing the most.



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[The Hustleman]

What kind of problems are we talking about here?



What's your point, that Apple pays celebrities to use their products? How do you distinguish them from people who use Apple products simply because they prefer them?

I suppose that's why when celebrities tweet their love for competing products, it is often done from an IOS device?

Can't figure out email
Phone stops letting them do call waiting
Trying to sync a calendar
Trying to turn on mobile hot spot (unnecessarily complicated on iOS)
Trying to erase all contacts

Is always an issue, and that's NOT including botched updates that render the phone unusable or stuck home and power buttons

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[dchawk81]

To be fair, I'd rather have an external, removable card for my storage than a gigantic internal one. Mostly because the probability that I will kill a phone and lose everything is rather high.

 

[dchawk81]

Having said that, the dumber I get and as a result more frequently do stupid things to kill my phones, the smarter I get in storing less on the phone in the first place. I didn't lose much of anything important with the most recent several dumb moves.

 

[Ry]

There's no way to ever get the data for real numbers on this, but I'm willing to bet that "most" Android phones have less than 2GB free internal storage and are using the cheap 1GB microSD card that came with the phone.

Remember, even though there are 100 Million high-end Android phones out there, there are 800 Million low-end ones, too.

Which means users are forced to use about 1GB for their personal media.

 

[Ricky Babalu]

What's an SD card?

 

[Johnly]

That isthe beauty of android folks. There will always be a manufacturer that caters to a certain crowd. It is futile to be polar on this subject. Just buy a 8g phone if that is all you need. Plenty of people rock s3s with over a 100gs! What does it matter if I love or hate sd cards? They are not going away anytime soon lol. Manufacturers do good by offering several models with different storage options. Hail android! And to the fascist idea that it should be the same experience for everyone and the majority this, minority that and universal storage capacity experts......keep failing

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