mmarcz48, Glad to hear u r happy with your TB, however it is a sample of 1. Battery issue is most certainly not resolved. I have previously posted my exp with TB, albeit sample of 1 or 2 if I include my wife's TB and exp with 2 Charges both returned. In a nutshell, battery life sucks even with Gingerbread. My, somewhat similar, HTC EVO with a 1 yr old battery was better than a new TB (w 4G off). The most frustrating issue is major lag that showed up post Gingerbread opening txt msging apps and/or msgs as well as browsers. Also the bluetooth radio is absolutely horrid. Not okay. So from my exp TB sucks but may be just fine for OP usage/cost constraints.
Should I bother getting a T-Bolt at this point?
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mmarcz48, Glad to hear u r happy with your TB, however it is a sample of 1. Battery issue is most certainly not resolved. I have previously posted my exp with TB, albeit sample of 1 or 2 if I include my wife's TB and exp with 2 Charges both returned. In a nutshell, battery life sucks even with Gingerbread. My, somewhat similar, HTC EVO with a 1 yr old battery was better than a new TB (w 4G off). The most frustrating issue is major lag that showed up post Gingerbread opening txt msging apps and/or msgs as well as browsers. Also the bluetooth radio is absolutely horrid. Not okay. So from my exp TB sucks but may be just fine for OP usage/cost constraints.
As a fellow Spartan fan, I cannot stress enough how terrible of a device the Thunderbolt really is. It's one of the few phones that rooting/ROMing can't make into a decent device. The device is extremely cheap -- the coating on the kickstand has rubbed off of mine and many others' devices. Worse yet, it did not come off evenly, making the device look awful. With normal use, my Thunderbolt had so many knicks and scratches and scuff marks... to the point that I was extremely angry that I had ever dropped $250 for the device.
I came from a Motorola Droid, and the Thunderbolt was such a letdown. So far my Galaxy Nexus has proven to be a little bit more of a trooper compared to the Thunderbolt. As a Spartan, I could not sleep at night if I were to recommend the Thunderbolt to you.
I came from a Motorola Droid, and the Thunderbolt was such a letdown. So far my Galaxy Nexus has proven to be a little bit more of a trooper compared to the Thunderbolt. As a Spartan, I could not sleep at night if I were to recommend the Thunderbolt to you.
Unfortunately, I dont think you'll be able to get ics on the tb without rooting
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I'd get a Bionic at this point before a Tbolt, they're about the same price on contract and at least it's dual core. But better yet, wait until March, the second of the big fixes for the Gnex will have been released, most apps will have gotten updates and will work right and the price will have dropped considering that several phones with higher specs will have been announced, if not released.
Of course by then we should see phones with the 2nd gen LTE radios, and that will be a big improvement.
Of course by then we should see phones with the 2nd gen LTE radios, and that will be a big improvement.
I just got my wife a Thunderbolt. I've loved mine (got it in April) and she was ready for her first smartphone. I don't think there's a better phone for $100 right now.
For what you say you want to use a smart phone for, I can't imagine ANY phone being obsolete in a year....or 2.
The TB has 4G and we won't be seeing any 5G phones for at least a couple more years......so it should be more than enough for you.
can anyone give an accurate response concerning the ICS question?
some say no ics for the TB
some say ics only if rooted
some say OTA ics is coming in the spring
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Your statement that the ThunderBolt is the only verizon phone that can do voice and data simultaneously over 4GLTE and 3G is incorrect. In terms of network connectivity, if that is your major concern, then there is a phone that can do simultaneous voice and data over 3g and 4GLTE as long as having gsm capabilities, the latter of which the Thunderbolt lacks.
Don't get me wrong, the Thunderbolt is a great phone, but I just want to make sure accurate information is being spread.
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The TB and Rezound both have MDM9600 chip providing LTE and a 2nd CDMA radio. 3G and voice at the same time no GSM required. The other 4G phones only have 1 CDMA radio which limits them to voice OR data while in 3G areas.
To the OP the Thunderbolt is a great phone. I had issues with MR1 OTA. Those have been fixed by the following OTAs. It's received on average one OTA every 2 months. To date no other VZW 4G can claim anything close. GN might, but not because of Samsung.
Several HTC phones getting ICS are running overclocked (1.2 to 1.4Ghz) MSM8x55 SoC. So 1Ghz in the TB should not be a show stopper. Time will tell on ICS.
Very few people could tell you the truth about this. It's like guessing what gender your child will be before it's conceived. No one knows for sure.
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I am on my 6th smartphone. Of them all, I am thoroughly convinced that at this time there isn't really a better phone for your needs. The Thunderbolt is an extremely nice device. I have a 100 dollar upgrade and another coming up and don't see any reason to use them yet. When I first switched from BB to Android, a customer of mine, a high mucky muck in the phone technology universe, gave me a great piece of advice. In essence, he said to find an Android device that will fit your bill and run with it because chasing Android advancement while strapped to a two year contract will dig deep into your pocket. Just a thought...
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I would not buy it on contract for sure. But I have Seen decent Thunderbolt's on eBay for $150. It is a nice phone. My brother-in-law has one and it works very well.
I agree that the Galaxy Nexus is not worth $300, but I would still rather have it than a Thunderbolt at this point. It is better in every way (except that the TB has SD). My real advice would be to skip them both and go with the Rezound. The Rezound has none of the issues the TB had, and is better in every way. You can get it for $250 on Amazon right now.
I agree that the Galaxy Nexus is not worth $300, but I would still rather have it than a Thunderbolt at this point. It is better in every way (except that the TB has SD). My real advice would be to skip them both and go with the Rezound. The Rezound has none of the issues the TB had, and is better in every way. You can get it for $250 on Amazon right now.
Obsolete is in the eye of the beholder. Any phone released in March 2011 is already obsolete by some people's standards (specifically spec-chasing smartphone nerds). But it's not like it won't keep working and working well. Gingerbread was the holy grail for a while there and just because ICS is out, it doesn't mean that Gingerbread is suddenly chopped liver. It's still good. It still works. You could keep using it until the phone stops ticking. If you keep it long enough, the industry tech will progress to a point that your phone won't be able to support some new thing that you "need", but given your projected use, I don't see that happening in two years. And the Galaxy Nexus and everything else out right now will be in the same position a year from now. Seems like hot stuff now, will be seen as behind the curve soon. So just buy something and then forget about progress in the smartphone world for about 20 months. Then start researching the latest and greatest and buy again.
As for updates, last year Google was trying to get hardware makers to pledge to an 18-month update period when hardware allowed. That means that many phones weren't getting support for that long. If HTC were to stay true to that schedule for the Tbolt, you'd have about 9 months of updates left.
If you and your wife find nothing wrong with her phone, then I don't see why it would be a problem for you. I'm actually surprised you don't see anything wrong with it given my experience with a Tbolt and the experiences of a lot of other people here. For me the battery was just a dealbreaker. I don't want to think about that during the day and I don't want to strap on a big battery to an already heavy phone. I've used other smartphones and have not had one with such poor battery life. I've read here that people who have rooted and loaded other ROMs have gotten great performance out of theirs and couldn't be happier, so if I still had a Tbolt, that's what I'd be doing. If you don't want to get into any of that, then you get what you get. But if your needs are modest then you may not tax the thing like a more robust user would. So maybe you're fine.
Based on your anticipated use, though, I wonder if you even need 4G. No music, no videos. It doesn't hurt to have it for somewhat faster web browsing, but if you're concerned about price, why not save another $50 and get a Droid X2? If all you need is a basic phone, that one more than delivers, plus it's lighter and thinner. If you do it through Amazon Wireless (which still keeps you with Verizon), the X2 costs 1 cent. Same for the Incredible 2 (which I own and would otherwise recommend except the earpiece and speakerphone are too quiet). Or if you want the Thunderbolt for sure, it's only $50 there.
Buying a phone after it's been out a while is nice for keeping the price down. It's just a tradeoff with length of support/updates and keeping up with the performance Joneses.
As for updates, last year Google was trying to get hardware makers to pledge to an 18-month update period when hardware allowed. That means that many phones weren't getting support for that long. If HTC were to stay true to that schedule for the Tbolt, you'd have about 9 months of updates left.
If you and your wife find nothing wrong with her phone, then I don't see why it would be a problem for you. I'm actually surprised you don't see anything wrong with it given my experience with a Tbolt and the experiences of a lot of other people here. For me the battery was just a dealbreaker. I don't want to think about that during the day and I don't want to strap on a big battery to an already heavy phone. I've used other smartphones and have not had one with such poor battery life. I've read here that people who have rooted and loaded other ROMs have gotten great performance out of theirs and couldn't be happier, so if I still had a Tbolt, that's what I'd be doing. If you don't want to get into any of that, then you get what you get. But if your needs are modest then you may not tax the thing like a more robust user would. So maybe you're fine.
Based on your anticipated use, though, I wonder if you even need 4G. No music, no videos. It doesn't hurt to have it for somewhat faster web browsing, but if you're concerned about price, why not save another $50 and get a Droid X2? If all you need is a basic phone, that one more than delivers, plus it's lighter and thinner. If you do it through Amazon Wireless (which still keeps you with Verizon), the X2 costs 1 cent. Same for the Incredible 2 (which I own and would otherwise recommend except the earpiece and speakerphone are too quiet). Or if you want the Thunderbolt for sure, it's only $50 there.
Buying a phone after it's been out a while is nice for keeping the price down. It's just a tradeoff with length of support/updates and keeping up with the performance Joneses.
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I love my bolt, and I will be rocking it until I'm up for a new phone in November 2012,
but if your interested in updates, without rooting and custom roms, this phone isn't for you, you won't get an update to ICS, and the phone is already out of date now with only a single core processor.
and while the battery life is acceptable now, most other 4G phones still have a much better battery life.
IF your interested in ICS, with a $150 limit, I'd recommend a refurbished bionic, which is $150 on verizon's website, you'll get ICS, dual-core and a phone that's more future proof. I'd only recommend a tbolt if you can get one cheap on ebay off contract, which is possible, because 2 years from now the tbolt is going to be completely obsolete.
but if your interested in updates, without rooting and custom roms, this phone isn't for you, you won't get an update to ICS, and the phone is already out of date now with only a single core processor.
and while the battery life is acceptable now, most other 4G phones still have a much better battery life.
IF your interested in ICS, with a $150 limit, I'd recommend a refurbished bionic, which is $150 on verizon's website, you'll get ICS, dual-core and a phone that's more future proof. I'd only recommend a tbolt if you can get one cheap on ebay off contract, which is possible, because 2 years from now the tbolt is going to be completely obsolete.
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My point was correcting inaccurate information and adding the fact that the rezound has gsm capabilities so it can be used on say att and tmo, while the thunderbolt cannot. Of course, voice and data simultaneously over 4GLTE and 3G might or might not be an issue depending on need of each individual, just like gsm support.
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Some great replies here and I have a lot to consider.
I REALLY need to get a phone ASAP because this Eris is basically toast. Even if it worked perfectly I'd hate it. My official upgrade date is 1-15 and my budget does not allow for anything over $100 right now. It seems to me that a TB is something I can be happy with but I do like the idea of a dual core.
And honestly, I will probably end up rooting whatever I buy. I'll just come here for help first and see what I need to do.
Thanks again for the help. You guys are awesome.
I REALLY need to get a phone ASAP because this Eris is basically toast. Even if it worked perfectly I'd hate it. My official upgrade date is 1-15 and my budget does not allow for anything over $100 right now. It seems to me that a TB is something I can be happy with but I do like the idea of a dual core.
And honestly, I will probably end up rooting whatever I buy. I'll just come here for help first and see what I need to do.
Thanks again for the help. You guys are awesome.
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MDM9600 is not GSM. Dinc2 has GSM. TB, Dinc2, and Resound share the same motherboard layout. All three are dual chip: SoC plus secondary... Either LTE or GSM... Next gen SoC will unify LTE into SoC. Until then the only way to have CDMA, LTE, and GSM would require a three chip mother board... Not enough room in current fab process. Not to mention battery life would be extremely poor. Gingerbread doesn't support triple chip control in any case.
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Alls i can say is, I put in a tmo and att sim and was able to make calls on the respective networks on the rezound. Tried the same on the Thunderbolt and got nothing.
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