should i buy another LG next?

[walterkurtz]

I "did" say it! Don't know what I was thinking.
The QUAD DAC would be kind of useless without it. And that is one of the main reasons I buy LG phones.
My bad! Sorry!

scared me. one of the main reasons i have a decent pair of headphones is my V20!

 

[walterkurtz]

LG V40 was just announced. I'm going to wait for that one.. you should too. In the mean time, just buy a cheap phone as a temporary phone to use ($100 or less).. maybe you can find a cheap prepaid phone at Walmart for the time being. There's a 5 camera setup, which is unheard of.



You could get a Note 9 but it's nearly identical to the Note 8... Samsung has been playing it safe lately and releasing boring phones. I've heard Samsung's telephoto lens was fake and didn't actually work but just zooms in. All my time owning Notes, I never used the S Pen. The 4000mAh may seem nice on paper on the Note 9, but that thing is heavy like a brick (look up the weight compared to the V30 on GSMArena). The pricetag is really high too, it's like $1000 or more. I don't care what you say, I refuse to accept a 12MP camera.. resolution is too small for me and I zoom/crop photos all the time and I can see the difference. The Pixel 3 will have an absolutely hideous notch (biggest notch ever), and still only a single camera setup.. plus it looks like they are using the painted coated plastic back again for some weird reason, and releasing candy colors (plus no micro SD or headphone jack, but you're paying $850-900+ for it). Huawei and OnePlus is trying way too hard to be Apple (design and UI).. plus I don't trust Chinese phones.. they both also no longer have the headphone jack (their newest flagships).. again trying too hard to be like Apple. I don't recommend Apple, they are overpriced and plus they implement planned obsolesance on their phones

doesnt every product especially electronic implement planned obsolescence?

i'll wait for the V40. and if it isnt great it might be time to try an iphone. everything else i own (computers, tablet, ipod) is apple. so i'm sure it would be a decent alternative. but then i'd be in the wrong forum!

thank you for the advice.

 

[Mooncatt]

doesnt every product especially electronic implement planned obsolescence?

It's not so much planned obsolescence as it is advancements are being made so often that current devices become outdated fairly soon by comparison. What he was referring to as Apple's "battery gate" was not planned obsolescence. It slowed the phone down when the battery got weak to prevent it from shutting off early, and replacing the battery gave you full performance back.

 

[Greedog]

After rereading the original post..
What I meant was, when you upgrade to a new phone, not necessarily the V40, but most flagship phones, your going to loose the removable battery and most likely the headphone Jack.
There are very few new flagship phones that still offer the jack.
Does anyone actually know which phones still have it? Does the Note 9 still have it? I even heard the new One+ is removing it this time around.
TBH...
I'm still hung up on the V20. Don't care about what's coming out at the moment.

 

[gipper69]

Given the state of affairs, we're at a bit of a crossroads. My priorities for the next device include network compatibility like 5g and the new carrier bands being deployed. T-mobile is doing 600 bands, with details for 5g still pending. I don't feel a device without them is a worthwhile buy,particularly if it eliminates the V20 features like a replaceable battery and exceptional music quality. And the fragile and slippery glass body is a bad idea regardless of who does it.

 

[muckrakerX]

Given the state of affairs, we're at a bit of a crossroads. My priorities for the next device include network compatibility like 5g and the new carrier bands being deployed. T-mobile is doing 600 bands, with details for 5g still pending. I don't feel a device without them is a worthwhile buy,particularly if it eliminates the V20 features like a replaceable battery and exceptional music quality. And the fragile and slippery glass body is a bad idea regardless of who does it.

Very well stated!

 

[Mooncatt]

Forget 5G. My next phone needs 6G!

 

[walterkurtz]

UPDATE: after spending the afternoon with verizon tech support i have a replacement V20 on the way. it will be fun using a factory reset phone for two days ??????

 

[walterkurtz]

UPDATE 2: i think my next phone will be an iphone. i forgot how painful it is to set up an android since there seems to be no meaningful way to back up an android (that is not rooted, on apple computers). oy vey.

 

[gendo667]

UPDATE 2: i think my next phone will be an iphone. i forgot how painful it is to set up an android since there seems to be no meaningful way to back up an android (that is not rooted, on apple computers). oy vey.

I know both LG and Samsung have very useful backup tools pre-installed on their devices. I've used both, multiple times. Never had an issue.

 

[walterkurtz]

I know both LG and Samsung have very useful backup tools pre-installed on their devices. I've used both, multiple times. Never had an issue.

i must be doing it wrong. i was on the phone with verizon tech support backing everything up before we reset the previous phone. when i opened google drive on the new phone there was no backup. and LG backup was from 2016. i've been reinstalling and reconfiguring all of my apps and this phone for several hours now. and i am certain there are apps and preferences missing from before.

do your backups restore a new device to exactly the way the old device was? with preferences intact? or am i expecting too much from a backup and restore? also is there a way to backup in the background on an LG?

 

[gendo667]

Not exactly the same way. No wallpaper but you're setup should be the same. Also, I'm curious if your actually using the LG Backup app. On Samsung phones you have to dig through the settings to find it, but on LG devices it's actually an app.

 

[gendo667]

Honestly, if the backup if that old it might just return your apps. Pretty sure your setup will be lost on a newer device.

 

[walterkurtz]

Not exactly the same way. No wallpaper but you're setup should be the same. Also, I'm curious if your actually using the LG Backup app. On Samsung phones you have to dig through the settings to find it, but on LG devices it's actually an app.

i used it today. i think it was under back up and restore in settings. but i wonder if i am backing up to an SD card inside the device how that would help if i accidentally lost or destroyed the device. with iphones isn't everything synced to the cloud? i thought that's what google was doing along with my calendar and contacts. but with this device no such luck. i checked google drive under both of my google accounts and found no backup....and from what i have read google only backs up google apps.

one other note: my knowledge is clearly limited. but i have also read about an app called titanium that does back ups. but i believe you have to have a rooted android for it to work. if anyone knows of a better way to back up or can direct me to a thread i would be greatly appreciative.

thank you!!

 

[gendo667]

i used it today. i think it was under back up and restore in settings. but i wonder if i am backing up to an SD card inside the device how that would help if i accidentally lost or destroyed the device. with iphones isn't everything synced to the cloud? i thought that's what google was doing along with my calendar and contacts. but with this device no such luck. i checked google drive under both of my google accounts and found no backup.

I've had LG and Samsung phones on the Android side. Google backs up automatically. It's not gonna save your setup, but it knows what you've downloaded. You'd just have to set it back up. Quite some time ago (like, Nexus 5 era) I found that my contacts were saved to my sim. Once I switched that to a Google contacts, manually, it never changed. Every contact I've saved since, the default option had been Google. Not saying you didn't do that, that's just the way it worked out for me.

Almost forgot, my backup phone is the Honor 8.

 

[gendo667]

I've had LG and Samsung phones on the Android side. Google backs up automatically. It's not gonna save your setup, but it knows what you've downloaded. You'd just have to set it back up. Quite some time ago (like, Nexus 5 era) I found that my contacts were saved to my sim. Once I switched that to a Google contacts, manually, it never changed. Every contact I've saved since, the default option had been Google. Not saying you didn't do that, that's just the way it worked out for me.

Almost forgot, my backup phone is the Honor 8.

Also, every device backup I've ever made was to an SD card. I don't know if that's the default option or not. The only backups I've ever put in the cloud were launchers.

 

[Mooncatt]

one other note: my knowledge is clearly limited. but i have also read about an app called titanium that does back ups. but i believe you have to have a rooted android for it to work. if anyone knows of a better way to back up or can direct me to a thread i would be greatly appreciative.

thank you!!

There's another app called Helium that can backup apps and app data without root, but you will need access to a computer to set it up to do so.

 

[Greedog]

Hear! Hear!

 

[walterkurtz]

There's another app called Helium that can backup apps and app data without root, but you will need access to a computer to set it up to do so.

oh! i have a computer! i'll look into helium thank you. such a pain reinstalling nearly every app and reconfiguring every single preference and notification. blech.

 

[muckrakerX]

UPDATE: after spending the afternoon with verizon tech support i have a replacement V20 on the way. it will be fun using a factory reset phone for two days

Glad to hear you got a replacement V20. I just set up a new - to - me v20 last night. I set it up as a new device, and updated to Oreo. Took quite a while.