Signal Reception?

Well since no one answered your question, the moto phones are set up for voice commands. Its always listing so it was designed to b good. No other android phone has that feature. The G2 does have a voice app but I've needed tried. It also has stock Google now voice commands. As for signal, I had a gnexus but it was so bad I bought a a T-Mobile nexus4 to use when I didn't have service. So its been 10 days since I bought my G2. I have traveled through 15 states and have not had any issues. Signal is truly amazing, the screen is the best one ever battery life is crazy I can do my 14 hour day and not need to charge. Camera is wow just blows me away. Rear buttons you'll adjust and knock knock is crazy cool. You can't go wrong with the G2. Da Yoopers rock.

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I have not yet made a decision. I am leaning towards exchanging for the G2 as long as it has the swipe keyboard and good voice controls. I'm waiting on the Verizon rep to text me back to let me know if I can still trade phones. Most of the replies seem to be good in the reception area. The two people who have replied with bad reception seem to be in the Williamsburg, VA area. When I was in Williamburg a couple years ago, no one in my family could get good cell service anywhere, and we had a variety of phones. I live in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, and there aren't a lot of places with excellent cell phone service. I'll let you all know what I end up doing.

How I miss the UP. Used to go to a house in the Hiawatha off FH13 and county road 440. Back then only Motorola analog on Verizon worked. Traded g2 for maxx. Never lose 4g and better signal all around.

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Wow, things appear to be all over the map here so I'll throw in my experience just to make it even more confusing. My G2 is amazing at holding a signal. I live in very 4G saturated St. Louis, however my house is at the bottom of a valley so on my Galaxy Nexus I would hardly ever get 4G on it (usually only on the second floor in one spot in the bedroom), but with my G2 I will randomly get 4G throughout the house. Of course it still switches between 3G and 4G, but it's usually 50/50 whereas with the Galaxy Nexus it was 98/2. My wife's iPhone 5 is about 50/50 with the 3G/4G as well so it's at least as good as the iPhone if not a little better.
 
If your service is bad your holding your g2 wrong.

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Does the Sim CArd affect signal strength? I did not know that. I ordered my G2 from out of state (Special Deal) and they told me to pop out my Sim Card from my GNex and pop it into G2 since they are same size. I did that and it works fine. However - there is ONE spot that i used to have great coverage that now is spotty. Everywhere else is fine. I still have the "new" sim card in the box - should i swap that out? Do i need to have the Store do it in case the Sim Card is account specific or something? (Not sure if new sim card would work since i activated phone with the one from my GNEx).

Thanks.
 
Does the Sim CArd affect signal strength? I did not know that. I ordered my G2 from out of state (Special Deal) and they told me to pop out my Sim Card from my GNex and pop it into G2 since they are same size. I did that and it works fine. However - there is ONE spot that i used to have great coverage that now is spotty. Everywhere else is fine. I still have the "new" sim card in the box - should i swap that out? Do i need to have the Store do it in case the Sim Card is account specific or something? (Not sure if new sim card would work since i activated phone with the one from my GNEx).

Thanks.

They didn't even bother swapping the card from my Galaxy Nexus when I got my G2 because the card comes pre-installed. I'm pretty sure you can change SIM cards online as long as you have an unused SIM card already.
 
Thanks for everyone's responses, but I ended up keeping my Droid. On more than one occasion, I tried to exchange my phone, and the Verizon store reps would tell me what a horrible decision that would be. They told me I wouldn't be able to get service outside of town with the G2. I asked them how they could sell a phone that wouldn't work where their coverage map says there is 4G coverage, and they told me there are no guarantees. Honestly, I was so sick of dealing with every rep there that I decided I didn't want to give them any more of my money. After I signed the contract, I have been treated like garbage by the Verizon store employees. The customer service guy I talked to on the phone recommended that I don't do business with an actual retail location. I will do things much differently in two years when I pick out my next phone. I'll go to the Verizon store to look at the phones, but I will be purchasing my phone from the website.
 
Hearing about these kinds of experiences just amazes and appalls me. Wireless store reps can be so clueless, useless, and unhelpful. I think your idea of only window shopping at the bricks & mortar shop, getting advice from people on forums like this one, and then actually purchasing the phone online, is a good idea--I would suggest not even going through the Verizon site, but instead check out deals on Amazon, Wirefly, or Costco. Good luck!
 
Thanks for everyone's responses, but I ended up keeping my Droid. On more than one occasion, I tried to exchange my phone, and the Verizon store reps would tell me what a horrible decision that would be. They told me I wouldn't be able to get service outside of town with the G2. I asked them how they could sell a phone that wouldn't work where their coverage map says there is 4G coverage, and they told me there are no guarantees. Honestly, I was so sick of dealing with every rep there that I decided I didn't want to give them any more of my money. After I signed the contract, I have been treated like garbage by the Verizon store employees. The customer service guy I talked to on the phone recommended that I don't do business with an actual retail location. I will do things much differently in two years when I pick out my next phone. I'll go to the Verizon store to look at the phones, but I will be purchasing my phone from the website.

WOW! What a joke Cassie. Honestly, every employee in that store should be fired and Corporate should be made aware of what's going on there. The G2 won't work 'outside of town'? Are they for real? This must go down as the all-time B.S. remark from any Verizon employee...and there are plenty that are pretty bad.

I really find their treatment of you and the lies told, repulsive.
 
Thanks for everyone's responses, but I ended up keeping my Droid. On more than one occasion, I tried to exchange my phone, and the Verizon store reps would tell me what a horrible decision that would be. They told me I wouldn't be able to get service outside of town with the G2. I asked them how they could sell a phone that wouldn't work where their coverage map says there is 4G coverage, and they told me there are no guarantees. Honestly, I was so sick of dealing with every rep there that I decided I didn't want to give them any more of my money. After I signed the contract, I have been treated like garbage by the Verizon store employees. The customer service guy I talked to on the phone recommended that I don't do business with an actual retail location. I will do things much differently in two years when I pick out my next phone. I'll go to the Verizon store to look at the phones, but I will be purchasing my phone from the website.

Even though you didn't ask for it, I'll give you my 2 cents. Next time just be prepared and come here before going to the Verizon store. I go to the Verizon stores all the time and while I don't get treated like royalty, I get what I want and 9 times out of 10 in a timely manner because I go in with a purpose and already know what I want before I walk in the door. The reps know that I know more than they do and if they don't they end up finding out very quickly. So they don't try any of their sales pitches and just give me what I came in for.
 
Man... I wish I'd seen this thread earlier. I just changed from a Verizon Galaxy Nexus to the G2 and the cell signal in it is about 3x STRONGER. I used to get service in my apartment ONLY when I stood by a window so I got to where I put my phone by the window on a charger and kept my bluetooth with me to answer it if I needed to. I get good full coverage with my G2. It's got outstanding call quality and it's really just a GORGEOUS phone. I've had phones by Motorola, HTC, Samsung and now LG and the G2 has the clearest call quality of ANY I've used in the last 8 years. I spent about a month comparing them to the other phones and playing with them in the store and cursory impressions, the G2 blew me away. Since having it, I only like it more. Also, battery life is AWESOME. I live and work in a rural area that it's having to reach for towers and yesterday I kept it off the charger all day and streamed live internet radio all day and left nav & bluetooth on and using streaming radio from 7:30 AM to 6 PM with only a few pauses when folks walked in, I went to bed at midnight last night and still had over 20% after HEAVY usage for a day.

That being said, you have AWFUL Verizon reps. That store and everyone in it needs to be reported. They need to be better educated on EVERY phone they carry and not just the PREMIER phones that pay them the most to push them. I would contact corporate and report it. The LG G2 is by far the best Android phone in their store right now and they should know that. They are basing their opinions on a combination of previous LG phones and what they are told to push. The Droid brand, as much as it did to help push Android out there, is redundant now. Everything it does well is done as good or better by the Moto X (as far as Motorola goes) and is trumped by other non-moto phones. I really would call the manager of that store and report your experience and call the corporate office as well as calling LG and tell THEM that their product in Verizon isn't getting presented by that store favorably. I saw in every show I watched this weekend a G2 commercial and HEAVY promotion by Verizon and LG during College football. These stores need to be ready to support it.
 
I know this thread is about signal, but I just had to post about the performance of the G2 compared to the new Droid. I, like most others had not heard much about the G2 and found it in the "unimportant phone corner". I was impressed with it immediately. Luckily the phones in the store had Quadrant benchmark already installed. So, of course, I ran it.....the Droid Maxx hit 88xx and the G2 hit an astonishing 18xxx. That's a huge margin. I think the benchmark probably favors the more traditional architecture of the G2 instead of the X8 structure of the Droid. The S4 is in the 12xxx range, so the G2 is definitely a fast performing phone.
 
It's a shame you had such a bad experience in the store you went to. As someone who may have or may know of a person that filled the shoes of the store employees in the past (at least corporate stores) I want to clarify a few things for the people here about how things work at the store in these situations.

Rep Knowledge
First of all, the reps are going to be limited in experience on what phones get "good reception" by a few factors:
1. they carry the phone themselves as a demo device (which they can change every 3-6 months) so they use it so know how good/bad reception, camera or similar features are.
2. they have had customers come in with (or without) problems with the phone and tend to build their opinion from that.

Reps have access to forums internally where they can read about "if" an issue is a known issue but because so much time is spent troubleshooting (and they are usually sales reps who want to sell something to keep their job) they don't really take the time to bother posting issues to begin with rendering the forums useless many times.

Reps are never trained or told what phones work better, like life it comes from experience and the phone that walks in the door with the most problems taking them away from selling for 30 minutes while they troubleshoot will be the phone they don't want to sell again. Keep in mind, this is because the company has gotten rid of store technicians and many have no customer service people and everyone has to hit goals to make money or keep their job. This is not the sales reps fault, but if you notice their manager is probably breathing down their neck to hurry up and get to the next customer if the store is busy. You may get lucky and get the more techie person (as I call them) who may be a phone geek and does read up and do research so look for that person in the store or call and say 'hey, who is your most tech savvy rep there, I have a question' and see if you get lucky. Customers did that for the person I knew all of the time because they were definitely a phone nerd and tended to carry more than one device and knew them well.

Going to the store for help with a problem during your 14 day return period
Next and more important thing to remember when you come in during the 14 day return period is that you sounded the big alarm walking in with that box or bag. Reps HATE returns as it hurts their pay and can cost them their job for not showing you the right device the first time. Also, it is EXTREMELY difficult to have to swap a new phone for another one for any reason. In the area I am familiar with they went so far as to set up a special call center to call in to just to force reps to do full factory resets, and many other steps (this takes a LONG time people) just to prove it is actually the phone that is the culprit. They did this to lower return rate. (remember, we are working with a for-proift company that bases things on many metrics including returns of new devices being a huge loss)

With a reception issue, it is always going to end up becoming a troubleshoot first, call troubleshooting line, check forums and internal memos, then swap SIM, note account, have customer try again, then go through same steps including many times calling tech support for network troubleshooting before you can pull a new phone off the shelf and swap it.

IF THE REP SWAPS THE PHONE - it always has to be for same device first time (w/o manager approval, which depending on area and their return rate may or may not be easy to do). This takes more time, the POS system doesn't always cooperate and is not what they want you to do but sometimes has to be done. The 3rd phone can be a different model but at least when I was familiar with things, this then went against our return rate % which actually hurt the originally selling reps paycheck and them us on a "list".

The rep is paid more or given incentive to push a certain device
The short answer: absolutely not true.

The most ever given out from what I know during many years is a free coffee mug, coozie, water bottle or some other cheap giveaway when the rep from a manufacturer would visit (which was rare and only a few manufacturers actually sent them to stores anymore). The compensation plan doesn't discriminate against or promote LG, Motorola, Droid, or any other brand or manufacturer at all and there is no reason to push a device unless it is free and they are trying to get you add-a-line or something but that is to get you to buy a service not a device. The only reason a rep would push you to a device is really because they like it, they are more familiar (and therefore less intimidated by selling it) or even more likely, have found it to have lower return rate. I doubt they were trying to lead you the wrong way, they are human too and just have to go by life experience, not fancy corporate specs and features because what they are given is the same thing you find on the Verizon web site.

By the way, the location of phones in the store is decided by corporate and all are the same layout in most cases unless a manager decides to think outside the planogram for some reason.


Hope this informs or helps someone and since I was here doing my research on important things I am considering for my next phone you can safely guess this is how I decide which one I will get next.
 
It's a shame you had such a bad experience in the store you went to. As someone who may have or may know of a person that filled the shoes of the store employees in the past (at least corporate stores) I want to clarify a few things for the people here about how things work at the store in these situations.

Going to the store for help with a problem during your 14 day return period

If what you said about the 14 day return period is true then that's a load of crap. I've been in sales as I worked for Best Buy for 3.5 years so I understand the push towards numbers, but that is absolutely ridiculous if true. If the customer doesn't like the product and the reps don't know any more than the customer themselves, then the customer should get the phone they want. In fact I thought they already limited it to two returns as it is, so if the customer doesn't like the third phone then they are out of luck. That policy I don't have an issue with as between the reps and the customer themselves, they should be able to find the right phone after 3 attempts. However, to make the customer go through what you explained is just wrong.
 
The rep is paid more or given incentive to push a certain device
The short answer: absolutely not true.

I just wanted to clarify what I meant in my statement earlier that may have triggered this response. My statement of "...and not just the PREMIER phones that pay them the most to push them" was not clear in WHO was getting paid. I meant that the premier manufacturers (Apple & Samsung) purchase premium retail exposure and space when they arrange the deal to provide the phone. Verizon corporate is who I was referring to as being "paid". It's not just them, that's just the facts of retail. I've been working with manufacturing companies that supply retail for years and the fact is, whatever you see that's being promoted the most is what has given the retailer the biggest incentive to do so by either giving them backend rebates based on volume, front end discounts based on guaranteed sales or advertising coop dollars to promote their product over their competition, OR the most insidious one is they just BUY the square footage in premium spots in the store and guarantee exposure. When you see a branded section in a store, that display is provided BY that vendor NOT by the retailer. So, those retailers are going to do their best to move that product to get the extra money offered by those vendors. So, if you want to know who's going to get the special treatment, see who's signs/posters/displays are the biggest. I can guarantee you Apple and Samsung have purchased their spots in the corporate stores and Sales reps have been influenced to push those products. Droid brand, being the house brand, will get preferential treatment by default. Therefore, LG and HTC and others have to PURELY count on initial launch posters, groundswell support and independent advertising to get people to ask for their products.
 
IF THE REP SWAPS THE PHONE - it always has to be for same device first time (w/o manager approval, which depending on area and their return rate may or may not be easy to do).

This is all very interesting information. I thought Verizon and most other wireless providers have a 14 day return policy such that if you're not satisfied with the phone you choose, you can return it and select a different one: Return Policy & Termination Fee | Verizon Wireless
 
I had signal issues out of the box with my first S4. First let me say I LOVE the phone. The menu structure and camera are the best.

90% of my use of my phone use is in a rural area, so good signal strength is the most import thing.

Verizon has replaced my Galaxy S4 three times in the last 4 months in an attempt to get a phone with good reception. I have sat side by side with other Verizon customers who were using their phones(motorolas) for calls and for data, yet I had NO signal. I could not make a phone call, send a text or use any data. This has become a constant problem with the S4. It has been the exact same on all three S4 phones. Can anything be done to increase reception?

I am trying very hard not to knock the phone. I absolutely love the menu structure. The menu structure and the camera is why I chose the S4. They are the best out there! Unfortunately, I will not be able to use them and I will have to settle for less.

The last straw. I also have a Verizon MiFi hotspot. I was sitting with Verizon friends who were making calls, texting and surfing the internet (they each had 2 bars of signal strength showing). I had ZERO bars of anything. I turned on the MiFi and it had 4 bars of signal. I connected my S4 to the MiFi via wireless and made my calls using Skype & Magic Jack!! Since then I have noticed that my MiFi will have 4-5 bars when the S4 has 1 or none??

I tried real hard to stay with the S4, but its lack of reception forced me to a different manufacturer's device. I am now on my 4th phone in 5 months. I regretfully traded in my S4 for the Motorola Maxx. Now, I have signal in areas that I had none on the S4. I am able to use my phone now, but I do miss the S4 for its features. The menu, camera and just plain basic functionality on the Maxx is no where as nice as on the S4, but I can make calls where I could not with the S4. Besides being able to use the phone, the battery is the only thing the Maxx has the S4 beat at.

If there is nothing that can be done for an S4, it there a different model Samsung with great rural reception that has a similar menu structure and camera?
 
I had signal issues out of the box with my first S4. First let me say I LOVE the phone. The menu structure and camera are the best.

90% of my use of my phone use is in a rural area, so good signal strength is the most import thing.

Verizon has replaced my Galaxy S4 three times in the last 4 months in an attempt to get a phone with good reception. I have sat side by side with other Verizon customers who were using their phones(motorolas) for calls and for data, yet I had NO signal. I could not make a phone call, send a text or use any data. This has become a constant problem with the S4. It has been the exact same on all three S4 phones. Can anything be done to increase reception?

I am trying very hard not to knock the phone. I absolutely love the menu structure. The menu structure and the camera is why I chose the S4. They are the best out there! Unfortunately, I will not be able to use them and I will have to settle for less.

The last straw. I also have a Verizon MiFi hotspot. I was sitting with Verizon friends who were making calls, texting and surfing the internet (they each had 2 bars of signal strength showing). I had ZERO bars of anything. I turned on the MiFi and it had 4 bars of signal. I connected my S4 to the MiFi via wireless and made my calls using Skype & Magic Jack!! Since then I have noticed that my MiFi will have 4-5 bars when the S4 has 1 or none??

I tried real hard to stay with the S4, but its lack of reception forced me to a different manufacturer's device. I am now on my 4th phone in 5 months. I regretfully traded in my S4 for the Motorola Maxx. Now, I have signal in areas that I had none on the S4. I am able to use my phone now, but I do miss the S4 for its features. The menu, camera and just plain basic functionality on the Maxx is no where as nice as on the S4, but I can make calls where I could not with the S4. Besides being able to use the phone, the battery is the only thing the Maxx has the S4 beat at.

If there is nothing that can be done for an S4, it there a different model Samsung with great rural reception that has a similar menu structure and camera?

Nothing you can do for your S4 but if you want something closer to it then the Maxx go get the LG G2. Better screen, better chip and better camera and a great signal!

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Thanks for all the responses! Unfortunately, I returned to that Verizon store last week. It doesn't seem that any of the same people who were there in September still work there, but they still were amazingly unhelpful. I think the worst part of living in a rural area is the lack of choices when it comes to shopping!

I've regretted my decision to keep the Ultra the entire time I've had it. It has some cool features, but it has so many problems. The battery life is so bad! I've been told the problems I'm having are just quirks of the phone. I can't deal with the quirks until September 2015 so I decided I am going to upgrade using Verizon Edge. I rather just buy a phone outright, but I can't afford it.

I'm leaning very heavily towards the G2 once again. I have also been looking at the S4, but I've read a lot of complaints about poor signal. Most of the posts in this thread have been positive in regards to the G2, so I'm feeling pretty good about it. I'm not worried about the buttons on the back. It's different, but I'm sure I'll get used to it. Is the G2 still a good decision?

Maybe I should add that I'm intrigued by the Nokia Lumia Icon. I'm probably most intrigued by the 20 mp camera. My husband loves his Lumia 928, but I'm not sure about getting a Windows phone.
 
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don't do Verizon edge. it's a rip off. buy the phone outright and use the installment plan to spread payment over 2 years.

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