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So I am about to upgrade from the original DINC to the SIII and I start to hear about radio issues with the SII.

How bad is the radio on the SII and improved will it be on the SIII?

Anyone have real tests yet from the European release of SIII?
 

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So I am about to upgrade from the original DINC to the SIII and I start to hear about radio issues with the SII.

How bad is the radio on the SII and improved will it be on the SIII?

Anyone have real tests yet from the European release of SIII?

1. completely different chip set so nobody knows if it will also have new radios
2. cant really compare international radios since those are gsm and Verizon uses cdma
 

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Most likely same as nexus and they suck. But this is Samsung and there radios suck. Another reason why if its not nexus then I'm not buying Samsung phones

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Most likely same as nexus and they suck. But this is Samsung and there radios suck. Another reason why if its not nexus then I'm not buying Samsung phones

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Samsung is the most dev friendly devices out there, plus the nexus line doesn't really have the best of specs so I would take a phone with better specs over a nexus since the nexus doesn't even get timely updates anymore....
 

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Most likely same as nexus and they suck.

Nope..will not be the same. GS3 has the S4 SoC (MSM 8960) with the radios integrated on the same chip with CPU/GPU (wifi, GPS, and BT also on-die) at 28nm. Very different setup than the 45nm OMAP with separate radios. Only time will tell if it equals an improvement over the GNex.

Droid Inc used a Snapdragon QSD 8650 SoC with modem for cellular communication on-die.

In essence... the US GS3 shares more SoC/radio heritage with the Dinc than it does with the VZW Gnex with the OMAP Soc.
 

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Nope..will not be the same. GS3 has the S4 SoC (MSM 8960) with the radios integrated on the same chip with CPU/GPU (wifi, GPS, and BT also on-die) at 28nm. Very different setup than the 45nm OMAP with separate radios. Only time will tell if it equals an improvement over the GNex.

Droid Inc used a Snapdragon QSD 8650 SoC with modem for cellular communication on-die.

In essence... the US GS3 shares more SoC/radio heritage with the Dinc than it does with the VZW Gnex with the OMAP Soc.

Good to see someone realizes how it is completely different chipset and radios than Samsung has used in the past. On Verizon they have never used a QUALCOMM modem before, it has always been their hummingbird or the omap in the case of the nexus.
 

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Good to see someone realizes how it is completely different chipset and radios than Samsung has used in the past. On Verizon they have never used a QUALCOMM modem before, it has always been their hummingbird or the omap in the case of the nexus.

This is the reason I am excited for this phone... it has the chance to be the first LTE phone with acceptable battery life (that doesn't need a car battery.. ala Razr Max)!!!!
 

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This is the reason I am excited for this phone... it has the chance to be the first LTE phone with acceptable battery life (that doesn't need a car battery.. ala Razr Max)!!!!

Agree. I can't wait til the preorders come in and I get to see how it pans out.
 

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Most likely same as nexus and they suck. But this is Samsung and there radios suck. Another reason why if its not nexus then I'm not buying Samsung phones

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A simpler answer would have been " I don't know"
 

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This is the reason I am excited for this phone... it has the chance to be the first LTE phone with acceptable battery life (that doesn't need a car battery.. ala Razr Max)!!!!

For future reference the Maxx doesn't have a car battery.

My wife is excited for her pre-order. The Nexus doesn't give me any assurance that Samsung radios are going to be any better than they have been in the past. I think I will be running her phone through its paces to make sure she'll be able to get a signal in an emergency situation.
 

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For future reference the Maxx doesn't have a car battery.

I could have been more clear:) Maxx battery (while not overly large in size) is the largest capacity of LTE phones available. The usability of the Maxx is achieved through packing in a lot of mAh not by power efficiency.
 

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I'm concerned with some of the apps i use. I got the nexus the first day and returned it the second. Could not get a solid stream for TuneIn Radio app.. praying this is better
 

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I'm concerned with some of the apps i use. I got the nexus the first day and returned it the second. Could not get a solid stream for TuneIn Radio app.. praying this is better

So you had the phone 1 day and returned it? You know ICS was a new version and some apps had to be updated to work?
 

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So you had the phone 1 day and returned it? You know ICS was a new version and some apps had to be updated to work?

Yes, I do realize that it may have been the apps not playing nice. It would stream for about 15 seconds then quite. I live with A Online Radio, Resco Radio, and TuneIn Radio. Hoping they work with the S3

However, I mostly returned it because I was not diggin' the "pure" android experience. I like UI's, and menu buttons. Really like Sense and hoping I can live with Touch-Wiz
 
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We won't know for sure until we have the device in hand. But this will use a Qualcomm SoC (originators of the CDMA standard) with all radios, including LTE, on the same chip. Thus its low-level firmware should be simpler and with less chance for bugs and translation errors. Not to mention that you won't have to worry about I/O bottlenecks between separate chips. The radios will use less power and have more efficient communication with the rest of the system, so yes I would expect this phone to be very good in terms of signal strength and quality.

I had a Droid Charge, and after all the issues I had Samsung themselves decided that their chips weren't ready for LTE yet. A company as successful as Samsung learns from their mistakes, and obviously Exynos 4 chips were not performing adequately with LTE, so they would logically go with the very best solution available. The Nexus doesn't really fit in to this argument, since it was designed and spec'd by Google, not Samsung, and they didn't really have CDMA in mind. Samsung pretty much had to take the Google-designed GSM version, shoehorn a CDMA/LTE radio setup in there, and hope for the best.

All that to say that I would expect the SGS3 to be more power efficient than any other LTE device so far, as well as be one of the best in terms of signal reception and quality, due to the S4 SoC. But ultimately we won't know until we get them in our hands, will we?
 

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We won't know for sure until we have the device in hand. But this will use a Qualcomm SoC (originators of the CDMA standard) with all radios, including LTE, on the same chip. Thus its low-level firmware should be simpler and with less chance for bugs and translation errors. Not to mention that you won't have to worry about I/O bottlenecks between separate chips. The radios will use less power and have more efficient communication with the rest of the system, so yes I would expect this phone to be very good in terms of signal strength and quality.

I had a Droid Charge, and after all the issues I had Samsung themselves decided that their chips weren't ready for LTE yet. A company as successful as Samsung learns from their mistakes, and obviously Exynos 4 chips were not performing adequately with LTE, so they would logically go with the very best solution available. The Nexus doesn't really fit in to this argument, since it was designed and spec'd by Google, not Samsung, and they didn't really have CDMA in mind. Samsung pretty much had to take the Google-designed GSM version, shoehorn a CDMA/LTE radio setup in there, and hope for the best.

All that to say that I would expect the SGS3 to be more power efficient than any other LTE device so far, as well as be one of the best in terms of signal reception and quality, due to the S4 SoC. But ultimately we won't know until we get them in our hands, will we?

No we won't, but I appreciate the detail of your post. It helps explain quite a lot.


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Mobile Syrup has a quick preview of the S III running on LTE in Toronto up on Youtube. The phone is running on Bell's LTE service. The guy in the video said with 8 hours of "decent" use he still had 39% battery remaining.

Samsung Galaxy S III LTE Hands-on - MobileSyrup.com - YouTube

All the other stuff was pretty standard for the videos coming out now, just highlighting the hardware and a short look at TouchWiz. It was good to hear that with the LTE radios going he still had respectable battery life.
 

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This is the reason I am excited for this phone... it has the chance to be the first LTE phone with acceptable battery life (that doesn't need a car battery.. ala Razr Max)!!!!

To say that the Maxx battery resembles that of a car battery is a bit much don?t you think? Does that imply that the 3300mAh is somehow making it too bulky for some? I don?t think so. Have you seen the extended batteries attached to the back of the other 90% of smart phones out there? Making them look like that parasite thing in Aliens just so a user can get through a full day. Now those are car batteries! Most users would kill to have 3300mAh under the hood of a sub 9mm chassis. I happen to have an ATT GSIII in hand as we speak and it's sweet looking, I'll give it that, but it still needs to prove itself to all of us in function and quality. This unit is not mine so sadly I can't power it up and take it for a spin but I can take a few snap shots of it next to my Maxx to back up what I'm saying. I challenge you to see a noticeable enough difference in thickness to make comments like that. Most will wrap it up in a bulky protective case anyway because seriously, it feels that fragile. In person I can tell that the GSIII is in fact a hair thinner but not nearly enough to make a statement such as that. Hope you guys enjoy the photos and I apologize ahead of time for the quality of the shots. They were taken with a Blackberry! How about that, got a slam in on a BB:) To sum up what I'm saying, it's an amazingly flashy looking device but It needs to have better reliabily than the Nexus or the Charge I once had, before I would ever jump back on that bandwagon.Time will tell all.
 
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Have you seen the extended batteries attached to the back of the other 90% of smart phones out there? Making them look like that parasite looking thing in Aliens, just so you can get through a full day. You've probably sported one of these yourself before:) Those are car batteries! Most users would kill to have 3300mAh under the hood of a sub 9mm chassis but not you. You're the one in a million that thinks that is thick:) LOL at ya. I happen to have an ATT GSIII in hand as we speak and it's sweet looking, I'll give it that, but it still has a way to go to prove itself to all of us in function and quality. This unit is not mine so sadly I can't power it up and take it for a spin but I can take a few snap shots of it next to my Maxx to back up what I'm saying. I challenge you to see a noticeable enough difference in thickness to make comments like that. Most will wrap it up in a bulky protective case anyway because seriously, it feels that fragile. In person I can tell that the GSIII is in fact a hair thinner but not remotely enough to make a statement such as yours. Hope you guys enjoy the photos and I apologize ahead of time for the quality of the shots. They were taken with a Blackberry! How about that, got a Slam in on a BB:)

Thanks for that comparison! I'm surprised; the GS3 and the Razr Maxx are actually about the same size! I won't be putting my S3 in a bulky protective case however, but will probably put it in a barely there case if it really does feel that fragile.

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