Skinned Google Messages

[cyberdman]

Still swipe to archive.

Bummer, but thanks for the info.

 

[Will_T]

I thought I had the iPhone stuff now since I have the setting and it is on. Chat features are enabled. But today I got the following. I must be have something wrong? I am using the _20220329_00_RC00.phone_samsung_dynamic, and also a beta tester.

 

[holz75]

I thought I had the iPhone stuff now since I have the setting and it is on. Chat features are enabled. But today I got the following. I must be have something wrong? I am using the _20220329_00_RC00.phone_samsung_dynamic, and also a beta tester.

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Unfortunately, image reactions don't work. It's only for texts.

 

[Will_T]

Unfortunately, image reactions don't work. It's only for texts.

Ah, yes, I sort of recall that now. Thanks. If it was iPhone to iPhone would it work? How about Android to Android if both using Chat?

 

[thacounty]

iPhone to iPhone works properly and RCS to RCS works properly. The issue, I think, is that the message doesn't indicate which image was reacted to when going from iPhone to SMS, so it doesn't know which image to place the reaction on.

 

[bennett22]

So, now that I got the update with the iPhone reactions, I started using the Samsung skinned Google messages, Has anyone figured out how to get rid of the peaky report spam box that pops up? I subscribe to a text service, and every time I get a text that starts with 1-410-XXX-XXXX it asks if I want to save the number or report it as spam. The service uses a different number for every text, so I can't save the one number

 

[J Dubbs]

That's just it, it's only ATT's branded S22 series phones that they did this to - not any of the previous models - so it's super annoying that you can't even use RCS on my S22 with someone who has an ATT S21. They gimped their own customer base. The whole point of RCS which has been worked on for years... eh, I can't get into it. It'll just infuriate me more.

That's why I only buy factory unlocked phones... you give a carrier an inch by buying their branded phone, and they take mile after mile

 

[rvbfan]

So, now that I got the update with the iPhone reactions, I started using the Samsung skinned Google messages, Has anyone figured out how to get rid of the peaky report spam box that pops up? I subscribe to a text service, and every time I get a text that starts with 1-410-XXX-XXXX it asks if I want to save the number or report it as spam. The service uses a different number for every text, so I can't save the one number

Quoted wrong message.

 

[KPMcClave]

So, now that I got the update with the iPhone reactions, I started using the Samsung skinned Google messages, Has anyone figured out how to get rid of the peaky report spam box that pops up? I subscribe to a text service, and every time I get a text that starts with 1-410-XXX-XXXX it asks if I want to save the number or report it as spam. The service uses a different number for every text, so I can't save the one number

One way to do it is to turn off the spam feature in the app's settings. I assume you don't want to do that, though.

 

[rvbfan]

That's just it, it's only ATT's branded S22 series phones that they did this to - not any of the previous models - so it's super annoying that you can't even use RCS on my S22 with someone who has an ATT S21. They gimped their own customer base. The whole point of RCS which has been worked on for years... eh, I can't get into it. It'll just infuriate me more.

I bought an unlocked Nexus 5 from a carrier and I was frustrated by having to wait for updates. So I downloaded the stock ROM from Google and flashed that. Never was an issue again. I understand that Canadian telcos run under different rules but worth a shot.
Maybe look into flashing the latest stock ROM from sammyfans.

 

[KupKrazy]

I bought an unlocked Nexus 5 from a carrier and I was frustrated by having to wait for updates. So I downloaded the stock ROM from Google and flashed that. Never was an issue again. I understand that Canadian telcos run under different rules but worth a shot.
Maybe look into flashing the latest stock ROM from sammyfans.

The only reason so far that I haven't flashed to the U1 firmware is the reluctance of reinstalling 600+ apps and redoing things like Samsung Pay, but my patience will only last so long so I expect me to consider this very soon!

 

[rvbfan]

600+ apps?

 

[spARTacus]

iPhone to iPhone works properly and RCS to RCS works properly....

iPhone to iPhone works because it is not SMS/text-messaging between two devices, but is instead proprietary massaging using the proprietary iMessaging APP (conceptually, not different from a "closed community perspective" than using WhatsApp, or Telegram, or FB-Messenger). It's basically messaging over the internet using your cellular data no different than how other APPs or WebBrowsing use your cellular data. It doesn't use the SMS/MMS protocols through your carrier.

RCS to RCS works because it is basically the same idea in terms of a proprietary (this time Google) protocol that uses your cellular data (and apparently also uses backend Google servers). Again, not actually using the SMS/MMS protocols through your carrier.

In theory, unless/until RCS fully takes over and SMS/MMS dies (and there doesn't seem to be indication that Apple is adopting the ability to message via RCS), this otherwise "reactions thing" has to be facilited in relation to purely only SMS/MMS, because that is the only way that Apple and Android devices can truly interoperate with each other for messaging, without all users having to adopt to a single closed community messaging APP.

 

[Dualmonitors]

iPhone to iPhone works because it is not SMS/text-messaging between two devices, but is instead proprietary massaging using the proprietary iMessaging APP (conceptually, not different from a "closed community perspective" than using WhatsApp, or Telegram, or FB-Messenger). It's basically messaging over the internet using your cellular data no different than how other APPs or WebBrowsing use your cellular data. It doesn't use the SMS/MMS protocols through your carrier.

RCS to RCS works because it is basically the same idea in terms of a proprietary (this time Google) protocol that uses your cellular data (and apparently also uses backend Google servers). Again, not actually using the SMS/MMS protocols through your carrier.

In theory, unless/until RCS fully takes over and SMS/MMS dies (and there doesn't seem to be indication that Apple is adopting the ability to message via RCS), this otherwise "reactions thing" has to be facilited in relation to purely only SMS/MMS, because that is the only way that Apple and Android devices can truly interoperate with each other for messaging, without all users having to adopt to a single closed community messaging APP.

Sigh, again, this is yet another example of how Apple devices don't play well with others. I don't understand this:

Apple's iPhone market share iOS is 13%
Android phones' market share is 87%

why wouldn't Apple WANT their phones to play well with 87% of the phones out there? Defies reasoning!

btw, i wish there's "proprietary massaging..." Hahahhahaha

 

[spARTacus]

I assume Apple specifically doesn't want Android to have any compatibility with their "rich texting" features of iMessaging. Just another way to try to keep all Apple users on Apple and to try to attract more other users to Apple based on existing closed Apple groups.

I assume Google hasn't given a crap one way or another (up until recently), and hasn't put much effort into it (compatibility with rich texting from Apple).

To me, it seems that all current efforts (eg: RCS and now this separate "reactions interoperability thingy") are being expended by Google/Android, which to me seems great (screw Apple in my books).

Interesting, if this "reactions interoperability thingy" via SMS gets working properly for all Android across the board, I am not sure there is much need for RCS, because the existing SMS/MMS protocols and via how the carriers do that would seem to be enough, and without the need for anyone to have to start using proprietary APPs. I sure hope that's where it ends up, since as much as I don't want to have to use Apple proprietary messaging, I also don't want to have to use Google proprietary messaging, and in Canada there are still cellular plans that offer unlimited SMS/MMS where as use of cellular data always has a more direct cost.

 

[bennett22]

One way to do it is to turn off the spam feature in the app's settings. I assume you don't want to do that, though.

i turned off the only selection i could find for spam, the box still pops up, but its only if the number comes in as a standard number that isn't in my contacts. guess ill just keep dealing with it for now and see what future updates bring

 

[KPMcClave]

i turned off the only selection i could find for spam, the box still pops up, but its only if the number comes in as a standard number that isn't in my contacts. guess ill just keep dealing with it for now and see what future updates bring

If you haven't, try force stopping the app and clearing the cache. If the spam feature in the Messages app *isn't* those boxes that pop up, I don't know what it is.

 

[donm527]

Because the more important statistic is that Apple iPhone holds 60% share for "premium" phones over the rest of the market. Samsung comes in second at 17% of the premium phone market.

Where Samsung may sell over 300 million mobile phones and the profit amounted to nearly 19 billion U.S. dollars. Apple comes in a "second" selling over 200 million shipped units... but a profit of over 48 billion and I am not sure if they are slowing down with stats I am using from last year or two.

Sigh, again, this is yet another example of how Apple devices don't play well with others. I don't understand this:

Apple's iPhone market share iOS is 13%
Android phones' market share is 87%

why wouldn't Apple WANT their phones to play well with 87% of the phones out there? Defies reasoning!

btw, i wish there's "proprietary massaging..." Hahahhahaha

 

[Dualmonitors]

@donm527:

oh my, i didn't realize that that Apples profit margins are that much higher than Samsung's profit margins!

i wonder what Kool-Aid they make that can get Apple consumers to continue paying higher prices for not-much-better products? is it just iSheep mentality?

Because the more important statistic is that Apple iPhone holds 60% share for "premium" phones over the rest of the market. Samsung comes in second at 17% of the premium phone market.

Where Samsung may sell over 300 million mobile phones and the profit amounted to nearly 19 billion U.S. dollars. Apple comes in a "second" selling over 200 million shipped units... but a profit of over 48 billion and I am not sure if they are slowing down with stats I am using from last year or two.

 

[spARTacus]

So I finally decided to download the Google Messages app from Play Store, and the iPhone reactions where there from the start. I guess I'll ditch the default Samsumg Messages app.

Now if Google will just implement into their Messages app the ability to send reactions to SMS (SMS, not RCS), then another part of the equation would be in place.

That would be funny if Google would do that, and I won't be surprised if they do, because then iPhones would get the "liked", "laughed at", " loved", messages and no actual emoji reactions whenever an Android user sends them reactions, and that would drive Apple users nuts.