so hard to say goodbye bionic!

You know what's funny about Smartbench...I notice the Nexus S has the top score. Looks like it can be easily manipulated if you ask me, just like every other benchmarking program.
 
You know what's funny about Smartbench...I notice the Nexus S has the top score. Looks like it can be easily manipulated if you ask me, just like every other benchmarking program.

Do you realize how fast the Nexus S actually is? Just as fast in normal use as the best dual cores out there right now. Don't count it out be ause of the single core, those benchmarks are legt
 
Do you realize how fast the Nexus S actually is? Just as fast in normal use as the best dual cores out there right now. Don't count it out be ause of the single core, those benchmarks are legt

I do but if it's scoring higher than dual cores than why do people want dual cores so badly? I'm thinking there are a lot of kernel tweaks to manipulate those scores, so I'm still skeptical.
 
I do but if it's scoring higher than dual cores than why do people want dual cores so badly? I'm thinking there are a lot of kernel tweaks to manipulate those scores, so I'm still skeptical.

Because dual core is the future and it looks good on paper. The software isn't optimized for dual core yet. They will run better, but they don't yet. That is why I just bought a Nexus instead of a 3D or Photon. By the time we can take advantage of dual cores, those two will be old news.

I believe smartbench show the clock speed. I'm sure some of those scores are overclocked, but it shows how strong the phone is. Look at it this way. You can buy a car with 500hp and still get spanked on the road by a car with 180hp. There's more to it than just the power under the hood
 
Because dual core is the future and it looks good on paper. The software isn't optimized for dual core yet. They will run better, but they don't yet. That is why I just bought a Nexus instead of a 3D or Photon. By the time we can take advantage of dual cores, those two will be old news.

I believe smartbench show the clock speed. I'm sure some of those scores are overclocked, but it shows how strong the phone is. Look at it this way. You can buy a car with 500hp and still get spanked on the road by a car with 180hp. There's more to it than just the power under the hood



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Yes, the highest scores are overclocked. Something that shows these scores can be easily manipulated with kernel tweaks is I just used Smartbench on my Thunderbolt and scored no where near the top scores. This was while I had my Thunderbolt clocked to 1.92ghz, yet there were Desire HDs and even an HTC HD2 on the list near the top. The Thunderbolt IS essentially the Desire HD, so obviously the kernel they're using has tweaks to improve scores.
 
Because dual core is the future and it looks good on paper. The software isn't optimized for dual core yet.
actually it is. Froyo can utilize both cores. Thats a myth thats been passed around. Apps on the other hand cannot utilize both cores (as you probably already know)

Fact of the matter is that the Nexus S is a stellar piece of equipment. Samsung knows how to build an Android device. They currently marry hardware and software like nobody's business.
 
actually it is. Froyo can utilize both cores. Thats a myth thats been passed around. Apps on the other hand cannot utilize both cores (as you probably already know)

Fact of the matter is that the Nexus S is a stellar piece of equipment. Samsung knows how to build an Android device. They currently marry hardware and software like nobody's business.

I agree with this. Samsung definitely makes sure that the software and hardware are cooperating appropriately, something Motorola could definitely be better at.
 
I do but if it's scoring higher than dual cores than why do people want dual cores so badly? I'm thinking there are a lot of kernel tweaks to manipulate those scores, so I'm still skeptical.

because it is all about saying they have the latest tech and need more than they will actually use but they just want to say they have it.
 
I'm p.oed as well but there are a few things I'm not sure about. I trust Phil, but there is no official statement that gathered prime will be on Verizon. Is there even official news it will be released this year? I mean didnt Google just select the manufacturer? Do we have technology to put a 720p screen into a phone. Are any of the primes specs official. Seems like we're getting a little torn up about something that could easily just be pie in the sky...

That being said. If this phone is what it is and will be released in 4 months on Verizon, I'm okay to pass on the bionic. But I just don't see how this prime phone, with specs well beyond any phone even released yet is gonna be developed and launched in 4 months...
 
I'm p.oed as well but there are a few things I'm not sure about. I trust Phil, but there is no official statement that gathered prime will be on Verizon. Is there even official news it will be released this year? I mean didnt Google just select the manufacturer? Do we have technology to put a 720p screen into a phone. Are any of the primes specs official. Seems like we're getting a little torn up about something that could easily just be pie in the sky...

That being said. If this phone is what it is and will be released in 4 months on Verizon, I'm okay to pass on the bionic.

All I can tell you about a 720P display is that, at 4.3 - 4.5 inches, it has the same approximate pixel density as the iPhone 4 display. That means it is definitely feasible now.
 
Off topic...but Workodactyl get back to work :)

I mean you didn't see the Pterodactyl foraging around for seeds. They were out there Ptering things up.
 
Imma worko twice as hard tomorrow. Actually not looking forward to it haha. Sorry to keep off topic. I feel we can allow some off topicness at midnight. Haha

Cool to see 720p being feasibile.
 
actually it is. Froyo can utilize both cores. Thats a myth thats been passed around. Apps on the other hand cannot utilize both cores (as you probably already know)

Fact of the matter is that the Nexus S is a stellar piece of equipment. Samsung knows how to build an Android device. They currently marry hardware and software like nobody's business.

Yes it can utilize both cores, but I would argue its not optimized for them. I think if it was we would be seeing it performance wise. Reality is, side by side right now the 3D has nothing on the Nexus.

Completely agree, Samsung is top of my list right now.

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Are you really going to argue a possible 200 MHz of processor speed is a major difference?
processor first of all is a difference of 1.0 GHz and 1.2 GHz with dual cores..

so while the 200MHz doesn't stack exactly together ( more like 290-320 MHz )

Next is the huge screen difference. SUPER AMOLED is a huge difference in the Galaxy S2 and the Bionic..

Next thing would be RAM difference and Storage difference.

To me I don't care as much about a 4.3 to a 4.5 ( supposed bionic at 4.5 ).

One another thing is that the Bionic will come with the Android 2.2 while the Galaxy S2 comes with Android 2.3 pre-installed and unlocked while Bionic will definitely be locked bootloader...
 
processor first of all is a difference of 1.0 GHz and 1.2 GHz with dual cores..

so while the 200MHz doesn't stack exactly together ( more like 290-320 MHz )

Next is the huge screen difference. SUPER AMOLED is a huge difference in the Galaxy S2 and the Bionic..

Next thing would be RAM difference and Storage difference.

To me I don't care as much about a 4.3 to a 4.5 ( supposed bionic at 4.5 ).

One another thing is that the Bionic will come with the Android 2.2 while the Galaxy S2 comes with Android 2.3 pre-installed and unlocked while Bionic will definitely be locked bootloader...
Actually the Bionic is releasing with 2.3.4. RAM is the same. Bionic I believe will have 16GB of storage built in.
 
Let's see, why would I ever say goodbye to the fabled Droid Bionic? For starters, I am a pretty big Motorola fan. Well I was, it has dwindled a little in recent time. I used their phones for years when I had Nextel and even had a StarTac before that. Their build quality is usually top notch and they have some of the best reception and battery life of any smartphone.

That being said there have been certain things that have happened this year that have turned me away from them a little. While they updated the Droid X to Gingerbread, it is still not without its faults. If I am not mistaken that is why the other Gingerbread updates that were supposed to roll out soon after the Droid X were stopped because of the problems with its update. They have seriously lacked in the software side when it comes to Android, except on the OG Droid (Vanilla). While Blur has come leaps and bounds from where it was (Droid 3/Bionic version), and it was absolutely terrible, I personally would love to see stock Android love on Big Red.

With the announcing of the Droid Bionic at CES and getting so many people excited for this device and then scrapping that version when it would not play nicely with LTE. Since that announcement, almost 8 months have passed and people's interest have waned some. If they were having that many problems with the device then why even announce it at CES? Would it have made more sense to just hold off and see if all the problems would be worked out before announcing, especially if it deals with connectivity? They may have been able to save some face by doing that. I do not know for sure. I am not in the technical field so I could be wrong on this.

Then you have the Xoom LTE upgrade fiasco. The Xoom was released in late February I believe. Motorola plans to start updating the device in September. That is almost 7 months later. One of the selling points of the Xoom was it would be updated to LTE soon and for free. Another selling point was that the update was scheduled to happen in Q2 (I think).

I hate to bring this up but Motorola's use of PenTile Matrix screens on their top tier devices makes me wonder, why? I know that they have their pluses, and their minuses, but I am not sure as to why they went this way. Without going to deep into this again I believe that it speaks for itself.

Now I have not completely ruled out the Bionic yet. But I now have three devices that I will be looking to upgrade to: Bionic, Galaxy S II, and the Nexus Prime. For me, if the option ever exists for me to have a Nexus device on Verizon I would jump at that opportunity. With all the benefits that come with being a Nexus owner, namely the updates and stock Android for me, it is a win/win situation. The Galaxy S II is just a beast, and SAMOLED Plus is awesome, even if the colors are exaggerated.

These are just my thoughts. I speak for no one but myself. Motorola has slipped this year, a lot in my opinion. I still believe that they will turn out a solid product. I am just not sure if any of those devices will be the one for me anymore.

End rant.