Software update info page is up... OTA right around the corner?

[RyanYaddow]

You are in the minority dude.

Brand new TBolt and I got 3-5 hours. Of STANDBY time.

Added/removed email accounts, turned off push data - even left @ a Verizon store for a day.

I'm tired of hearing that "people need to learn how to use the (Android) phone."

I got 2-3 days on my BlackBerry 9650 and over a day and a half on my new AT&T iPhone.

My wife got <1 day on her Incredible/Eris with the OEM battery, and a little more on the aftermarket one from VZW.

Could it be bad batteries from HTC? Hmm - they are a cheap Taiwanese company, no?

Well, if I'm the minority.. I feel bad for the majority. Perhaps I got lucky... but no complaints here!!

 

[Mike_is_Mike]

You are in the minority dude.

Brand new TBolt and I got 3-5 hours. Of STANDBY time.

Added/removed email accounts, turned off push data - even left @ a Verizon store for a day.

I'm tired of hearing that "people need to learn how to use the (Android) phone."

I got 2-3 days on my BlackBerry 9650 and over a day and a half on my new AT&T iPhone.

My wife got <1 day on her Incredible/Eris with the OEM battery, and a little more on the aftermarket one from VZW.

Could it be bad batteries from HTC? Hmm - they are a cheap Taiwanese company, no?

The TB is a nice phone with flaws. Battery power is it's main flaw, this phone needs more battery power plain and simple. It doesn't need a kick stand and it doesn't need bigger speakers. It needs a more powerful battery designed into it from the ground up, not added on in a weird Quasimodo or humpback wale after thought.

 

[lindros2#AC]

Thank you to the two folks who responded agreeing that the phone needs a bigger battery.

I think all phones need new battery TECHNOLOGY - it's about time for some sort of fuel cell...

 

[jim302]

You are in the minority dude.

Brand new TBolt and I got 3-5 hours. Of STANDBY time.

Could it be bad batteries from HTC? Hmm - they are a cheap Taiwanese company, no?

I am not trying to start a flame war, but you are most likely in the minority. If the majority of people were getting 3 - 5 hours of standby time, the forums would have a lot more complaints. The reviews would also show these figures.

There are a lot of potential causes of bad battery life. Buggy apps, poor signal strength or quality (a major factor), and how you have the phone set up.

I usually have no problems making it through the day, even yesterday when I was in 4G LTE coverage. This is with 3 email accounts and calendar sync enabled. In fact, I really haven't taken any major steps to improve battery life other than disabling sync on the Blockbuster app and installing a newer version from the market.

Battery life on this phone could use some improvement. However, it also isn't anywhere near as bad as some people make it out to be.

As for calling HTC a cheap Taiwanese company, that is a bit disrespectful. They are a global company like almost ever other large company. They may be based in Taiwan but they have several facilities in the US. HTC makes high quality products (they have to due to the amount of competition they have).

Besides, I think most of their batteries use cells from Japan. If you look at the battery, it should list where the cells were made and where it was assembled. The Li-Ion cell could very well be from a comapny like Sony, Panasonic, Sanyo, etc.

And of course, defects are always possible. Nothing is perfect.

 

[cjbmr]

Noob here and I am not rooted. I was thinking of flashing this leaked ruu from my sd card. Is it so that the leak though might not be the official radio and people are getting random reboots from this. Thank you

 

[lindros2#AC]

Since Verizon watched my BRAND NEW phone for half a day (and compared to a floor model), I am not going to pin it on my particular specimen.

I had ZERO third party apps

ZERO email accounts (deleted all of them).

And was in a strong signal area (VZ put up new 4G towers in Atlanta instead of revising/replacing 3G/EvDO). Then in a strong area in St Louis.

HTC and VZ both agreed this was a COMMON issue.

Off charger for 60 minutes? 80% drain.

Radio off/airplane mode overnight? 30% drop.

And plugged into computer while enabled as HotSpot? It actually drained/didn't gain battery.

 

[DJBeanPole]

Since Verizon watched my BRAND NEW phone for half a day (and compared to a floor model), I am not going to pin it on my particular specimen.

I had ZERO third party apps

ZERO email accounts (deleted all of them).

And was in a strong signal area (VZ put up new 4G towers in Atlanta instead of revising/replacing 3G/EvDO). Then in a strong area in St Louis.

HTC and VZ both agreed this was a COMMON issue.

Off charger for 60 minutes? 80% drain.

Radio off/airplane mode overnight? 30% drop.

And plugged into computer while enabled as HotSpot? It actually drained/didn't gain battery.

New phone!

 

[Adrynalyne]

Since Verizon watched my BRAND NEW phone for half a day (and compared to a floor model), I am not going to pin it on my particular specimen.

I had ZERO third party apps

ZERO email accounts (deleted all of them).

And was in a strong signal area (VZ put up new 4G towers in Atlanta instead of revising/replacing 3G/EvDO). Then in a strong area in St Louis.

HTC and VZ both agreed this was a COMMON issue.

Off charger for 60 minutes? 80% drain.

Radio off/airplane mode overnight? 30% drop.

And plugged into computer while enabled as HotSpot? It actually drained/didn't gain battery.

This is the same Verizon trained to install task killers right?

30% drain in airplane mode is so far in the minority it isn't funny.

I drop about 5% overnight with radio on, using wifi. This being in a mid to poor signal area due to all the trees around the house.

 

[fatboy97]

Since Verizon watched my BRAND NEW phone for half a day (and compared to a floor model), I am not going to pin it on my particular specimen.

I had ZERO third party apps

ZERO email accounts (deleted all of them).

And was in a strong signal area (VZ put up new 4G towers in Atlanta instead of revising/replacing 3G/EvDO). Then in a strong area in St Louis.

HTC and VZ both agreed this was a COMMON issue.

Off charger for 60 minutes? 80% drain.

Radio off/airplane mode overnight? 30% drop.

And plugged into computer while enabled as HotSpot? It actually drained/didn't gain battery.

Sorry to hear about these kinds of issues with anyone, but.... do you honestly think that "ZERO third party apps" will stop you from having ANY battery issues with a smartphone???

There are so many reloaded apps... Sense and VZW have all kinds... All the VZ apps... Navigator, V Cast, City ID, Friend Stream, News, Rhapsody, Slacker... just to name a few that can drain your battery if you go into them, or don't check to be sure they are not syncing without your knowledge.

Also, one thing I learned with a previous Android... putting your device into Airplane mode does not stop all of your activity on your device... I did this on a plane trip and played several games and lost a significant amount of battery life... then on my return trip I put my device into Airplane mode, then rebooted, played just as many games if not more and had GREAT battery life when we touched down.

 

[djh2011]

I have only had this phone for a little over a month now and I am so disgusted with the battery life. I am writing this to add to the list of those having the same issues. I know that when you have a screen this big and syncing so many things at once that you would have battery drain, but clearly the powers that be felt the battery was an issue from the outset because they had the extended battery available almost immediately upon release of the device. I barely talk on the device, use mostly yahoo messenger, internet, and gmail auto syncing and I get 3 1/2 to 4 hours consistently. If I make a phone call or two, it is closer to 3 hours. That is just plain unacceptable from any phone. I sometimes have to charge my phone 2 to 3 times just to make it to the end of the day. Ridiculous that I should have to buy a spare battery just to make it through the day. But I love the phone so I will deal with it and hope maybe somehow they will design a battery with more juice to fit within the space provided. Someone....Please!

 

[Mortiel]

Since Verizon watched my BRAND NEW phone for half a day (and compared to a floor model), I am not going to pin it on my particular specimen.

I had ZERO third party apps

ZERO email accounts (deleted all of them).

And was in a strong signal area (VZ put up new 4G towers in Atlanta instead of revising/replacing 3G/EvDO). Then in a strong area in St Louis.

HTC and VZ both agreed this was a COMMON issue.

Off charger for 60 minutes? 80% drain.

Radio off/airplane mode overnight? 30% drop.

And plugged into computer while enabled as HotSpot? It actually drained/didn't gain battery.

Firstly, HTC and VZW do not have to agree that it is an issue for it to be an issue. HTC stated there was, so therefore VZW is stuck with relaying that message to angry customers.

The more advanced the piece of technology, the more advanced problems. How many people remember/heard the fiasco when RIM first released Blackberry OS 5.0? Sooo much worse than a low battery.

Anyway, a small part of the problem is a confusingly under-powered battery for such a powerful device. Its like putting a 2 gallon fuel tank with a V10. Really, though, that is the lesser part of the problem... The firmware on the device misreads the battery life, and may be off by as much as 30%! From the testing I have seen, this effects it two ways: First, the phone thinks it is 100% charged when it may be as low as 70% (this is an easy fix with bump charging). Secondly, the battery may die prematurely when is may have up to 30% left on the battery. One way or another, HTC will eventually fix the firmware. Hopefully.

One other thing: You said you were noticing the battery draining when using the hotspot and plugged into your computer. Let me clarify something: Do NOT charge your phone with you computer while using heavy applications. Plugging the device into your computer is meant for transferring files and tethered internet usage (not the same as a hotspot). If you use the hotspot, plug it into a wall. The majority of car chargers and the entirety of computer USB ports do not put out enough power to charge the battery while using features like Mobile Hot Spot or Navigation. Same thing happened with my Galaxy S (which had NO battery issues like the Thunderbolt).

 

[jpvybes]

I've been in contact with HTC support and they say they are working on a battery update. I assume this will not address battery life just yet?

 

[kalopsia]

My TBolt's been off the charger for 4 hours now with little to moderate use, only dropped 2% so far. I am still on the Stock ROM and Stock Battery as well.

If your TBolt is losing 30% on Airplane mode while idle, then it is most definitely an issue unique to your phone and/or battery. Just turning off Mobile Network and WiFi and leaving my phone unplugged over night will leave me with 5-8% less the next morning than when I went to sleep (~8 hours of sleep).

 

[Simace]

If your TBolt is losing 30% on Airplane mode while idle, then it is most definitely an issue unique to your phone and/or battery.

Not at all unique. There are many that have the same issue. Hope you don't start to see what the rest of us are.

What's really annoying about the poor battery life is; some days the battery lasts an acceptable amount of time and other day it's as if I'm running every app available on the market (full battery drops within an hour or so).

That is really annoying cause you cannot depend on the phone without a charger nearby.

 

[Adrynalyne]

Not at all unique. There are many that have the same issue. Hope you don't start to see what the rest of us are.

What's really annoying about the poor battery life is; some days the battery lasts an acceptable amount of time and other day it's as if I'm running every app available on the market (full battery drops within an hour or so).

That is really annoying cause you cannot depend on the phone without a charger nearby.

Maybe not unique, but certainly a minority case.

 

[racedog]

Running das BAMF 1.6 (previously BAMF 1.x) and getting a full day of moderate use with no problem. If I hit the TB hard I might have to charge up in the evening, but overall I don't have battery issues. I've read some of the complaints about only having a few hours of standby and if I had run into that I would had VZW replacing the phone with another and if that one had it I would have them replacing it with another phone other than the TB. That's just not acceptable but it seems that only a few people are seeing those kinds of battery problems.

R

 

[Chilly818]

So, my question is..... is this update out yet?

 

[Chrisy]

So, my question is..... is this update out yet?

According to my diligent research (settings, software update, check new), NO!

 

[tcapote]

According to my diligent research (settings, software update, check new), NO!

My TB and my Son's TB both say "Service Unavailable" when we check? Been saying that for many days now. We are running Launcher Pro, could that be stopping it? It is an issue?

 

[JerseyDubbin]

still nothing i guess it will hit at 12.