Sorry. Rant. Is anyone else as sick of "it just works" as I am????

[Andrawer]

Ha, good post Beaglebaby. You gave me a laugh today since I was just thinking the same thing yesterday.

When I hear "it just works" in reference to the iphone (I am a previous owner of the iphone3gs and iphone4) I actually hear "I am simple minded and the iphone is for me."
Not a dig...it's just what I think...can't help it.

 

[RickInHouston]

I'm sick of hearing the phrase as well.

My main gripe, though, is with apple and... You want to listen to music? Then quit buying CD's and just download it from our store. You want to watch a DVD? Well don't buy the physical media, download it from our store...

And don't get me started on putting an "i" in front of everything. It just make you sound stupid!

 

[glamrlama]

I'm not sick of "it just works". Some people love iOS. Apparently millions of them! My issue is "it just works like an iDevice" I would choose any other device OS before iOS. Choice is good and i would choose iOS last. People need to use what they like and stop worrying about what others are running.

 

[willizen]

Hello,
I recently joined and posted a couple of threads in trying to sort out which phone to buy - HTC One, GS4 or Note 2. In the process of my weeks of research on these phones, I found several forums and sites where many opinions from all types of users are posted and read all with great interest. Of course, in all of this reading, there was the inevitable comparison with the iPhone, and in so many cases, whenever someone pointed out how nice some features were of their non-iPhone, an iPhone person would chime in with some version of "I don't care, my iPhone just works."

Well, after a few weeks, I can't tell you how sick I am of hearing that phrase! We know already! I have owned several phones, and guess what, they ALL JUST WORK! If they didn't, I wouldn't have them. Maybe some of you have had phones that haven't just worked, but that cannot be the majority or there would not still be android phones out there today with all of the various versions of the OS. My Evo had gingerbread and worked great. Plus, maybe the earliest versions of iPhone, with their totally simplistic iOS "just worked," but if you go over to the iMore forum, there is a thread with a poll where 47% of the new iPhone 5 owners have had to return their device. There are threads on lag, battery life, when to restart/reboot your iPhone and all sorts of folks with questions on why their home button isn't working properly, purple haze on photos, etc. Also, what about the dropped calls and maps situation from the recent past.

I am not trying to put down the iPhone itself or anyone with one, I am sure it is a great phone that works just fine. So does my One. It just works. It really does.

What people mean when they say it just works is this usually means some combination of a straightforward operating system without a lot of opportunities to screw some system setting up, apps that work well, a general lack of strange bugs that can be seen from time to time on android phones. Android has gotten so much better over the years, that the gap of "it just works" has closed dramatically. To me, apps are still the big rift between the two operating systems. You shouldn't get all bent out of shape over it. It's sort of like android users saying their phones are more powerful.

 

[willizen]

Here's my take.....

iphone is not my problem. In fact, it's a sexy device that deserves it's place in the smartphone world.....but just not in my place. It's not the phone I dislike, it's Apple. I hate Apple. I hate everything they stand for. I hated Steve jobs and now that he's gone, I hate Tim Cook. I purposely circumvent Apple whenever I can and if I can't, I spit on it. Apple is the epitome of "We are awesome and follow us isheep to the land of magical goodness!!" All while suing others for what?? Another row of icons?? Telling users "you're holding it wrong!".....I call dung on Apple and NO ONE will change my mind.

Thank you for your patronage and if you didn't understand what I wrote, you're reading it wrong!

Wow is really all I have to say to that.

 

[willizen]

"It just works" is no diffrent that "Android is customizeable" Nothing wrong with it, because its pretty true.

Apple build a platform that is pretty simple for almost anyone to use. Android has a steeper learning curve, and in trade, you get more options to do stuff. Realistiaclly, if you're the kind of person who posts on a tech forum, you shouldn't have a problem with either. But a lot of people aren't so tech savvy.

My mom is a perfect example. I knew it would be easier for her to get used to an iPhone when she finally moved up from a feature phone, and it would be easier for me to troubleshoot from over the phone/email since I'm not in the same town as her. Another bonus was an apple store near to her, where if she needed in person help, she could get it fast.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[cnotes2019]

I love my iphone 5. I will love my iphone 5s/6. I love jail breaking my iphone to customize it. I love gaming on my iphones. I wish my iphone 5 had a better battery. I will buy all iphones till the end of my days. I love my Samsung galaxy note 2

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[Topgonzo]

I love my iphone 5. I will love my iphone 5s/6. I love jail breaking my iphone to customize it. I love gaming on my iphones. I wish my iphone 5 had a better battery. I will buy all iphones till the end of my days. I love my Samsung galaxy note 2

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I'm glad you're so happy! It's nice when you love your toys

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[return_0]

It's true, iOS does "just work". But it's useless as an argument because Android "just works" too.

Example: My grandmother recently got a Nexus 7. AFAIK no one helped her with using it; in fact, my only other family member (aside from my parents) with an Android phone still has a G1 running 1.6. Anyways, she loves her N7. So much, in fact, that she now only uses her iPhone for calling. A quick background of her technological experience: she doesn't even use a computer.

Edit: Another example: I find Android to be more intuitive than iOS. And don't say "oh, it's because you've been using it longer". Because that's wrong. I used my father's iPad 2 for a year before I got a taste of Android in the real world. A few months later, as I was using his iPad again, I found myself getting confused and lost in the settings. I found myself reaching for the notification bar to go to settings, then thinking: "oh, wait. QS just doesn't work on iOS". Of course, this is an extreme case, so most experiences will probably reinforce my point (and probably the OP's too) that both OSes "just work" (most of the time (that applies for both)).

 

[br3ndo702]

As a new Android user who is loving the OS and my One i can say that Android doesn't "just work" the way iOS does. The end user doesn't need to know anything or configure anything to have a great experience on an iPhone. You can't really say that about most Android devices. I think part of the fun of Android is the customization and how much you can tailor the OS to suit your needs, but this also comes at the price of an OS that is more complicated. I don't think one OS is inherently better than the other, they just take different approaches and each speaks to a different audience.

There will always be some defective devices or bugs in an OS, but iOS and Apple blow away the competition on user satisfaction surveys. Again, their OS is more simple, it's easier to use and harder to screw up. At the same time, you better want to use it the way it's designed to work because you can't change much.

This is the fundamental difference iOS and Android and it's a perfectly reasonable distinction. Anyone who claims that one OS is better for everyone than the other OS is misguided at best. Anyone who claims that all users of "the other" OS are somehow fools or lesser people is just silly.

Well said, well said.

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[beaglebaby]

I love my iphone 5. I will love my iphone 5s/6. I love jail breaking my iphone to customize it. I love gaming on my iphones. I wish my iphone 5 had a better battery. I will buy all iphones till the end of my days. I love my Samsung galaxy note 2

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I am glad you like your iOS devices, but this is something I just don't get. How do you know ahead of time that it will be the device for you when the time comes to get a new phone? Til the end of your days? OK, guess you really, really like the product, LOL! A few months back, I was showing a friend some pics on my phone (of the beagle baby in fact LOL) and she commented on how nice my screen size was a couple of times. When she got a new phone recently, it was another iPhone. I commented that I thought she might have gone for one of the phones with a bigger screen. Her reply was, "of course not. It seems nice, but this is an iPhone." Uh . . . okaayyy (scratching my head). She didn't say she had a lot invested in apps, she was just used to the phone and didn't want to relearn a new thing, or even that she didn't want to spend that much time looking into devices, just -"this is an iPhone" - like that is supposed to mean something to me (?). I really think I may be in the minority, but I just do not get that emotionally invested in things or care to be that loyal to any particular company.

 

[adriandb]

I am glad you like your iOS devices, but this is something I just don't get. How do you know ahead of time that it will be the device for you when the time comes to get a new phone? Til the end of your days? OK, guess you really, really like the product, LOL! A few months back, I was showing a friend some pics on my phone (of the beagle baby in fact LOL) and she commented on how nice my screen size was a couple of times. When she got a new phone recently, it was another iPhone. I commented that I thought she might have gone for one of the phones with a bigger screen. Her reply was, "of course not. It seems nice, but this is an iPhone." Uh . . . okaayyy (scratching my head). She didn't say she had a lot invested in apps, she was just used to the phone and didn't want to relearn a new thing, or even that she didn't want to spend that much time looking into devices, just -"this is an iPhone" - like that is supposed to mean something to me (?). I really think I may be in the minority, but I just do not get that emotionally invested in things or care to be that loyal to any particular company.

It does mean something, and for most people it has nothing to do with an emotional tie to the product or company.

The reason people know they'll want the next iPhone is that there's nothing else like it. When people are iPhone users it isn't because of a feature checklist like so many people use when picking their android device, it's the overall user experience. Unless you've been a long time iPhone user it may not be an obvious thing, but it's just so much more simple, so much easier. You don't have to concern yourself with your device. Your device works for you instead of the other way around. Again, this simplicity comes with a price, but it still exists.

 

[beaglebaby]

I get that it is simple, but she didn't say that or anything along those lines. It was more of a "silly you, this is an iPhone." Ok, well that really doesn't tell me anything. Not even if she actually likes the phone. I am guessing she does, but it could be that she thinks she is supposed to have an iPhone. I don't still don't know nor do I care all that much and didn't say anything else about it to her. And I do think it gets emotional for some, well, make that a lot, of folks.

 

[adriandb]

I get that it is simple, but she didn't say that or anything along those lines. It was more of a "silly you, this is an iPhone." Ok, well that really doesn't tell me anything. Not even if she actually likes the phone. I am guessing she does, but it could be that she thinks she is supposed to have an iPhone. I don't still don't know nor do I care all that much and didn't say anything else about it to her. And I do think it gets emotional for some, well, make that a lot, of folks.

And she exactly right, she wants the iPhone because it's an iPhone. There is nothing else that provides that kind of user experience, nothing even comes close so why should she consider another device?

Saying "it's an iphone" really does mean something.

 

[xtn]

And she exactly right, she wants the iPhone because it's an iPhone. There is nothing else that provides that kind of user experience, nothing even comes close so why should she consider another device?

Saying "it's an iphone" really does mean something.

Of course it means something. I think what he meant was that he didn't know what it means to her.

It means something to me, but I suspect what it means to me varies quite a bit from what it means to you. So saying the phrase "it's an iPhone" doesn't necessarily impart your intended meaning to the listener.

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[beaglebaby]

Of course, everyone should just get whatever they like. Was the phone was what she really wanted? IDK, I guess since she got it, but I still don't know if she really likes the iPhone or just wants it for some sort of status symbol. The comment could be taken a lot of ways, arrogant being one of them. I do get that for some people, it is the be all and end all. To some, it is that transcendental. To me, it is not. To each his own

 

[return_0]

Of course, everyone should just get whatever they like. Was the phone was what she really wanted? IDK, I guess since she got it, but I still don't know if she really likes the iPhone or just wants it for some sort of status symbol. The comment could be taken a lot of ways, arrogant being one of them. I do get that for some people, it is the be all and end all. To some, it is that transcendental. To me, it is not. To each his own

Seemed more along the lines of "status symbol" to me.

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[HalizDad]

It's only annoying if you let it annoy you.


It's a label used by those who are unwilling to realize that iOS and iPhones may be the perfect device for others. It really says a lot about someone when they need to resort to name calling to pump themselves up.

Calling someone an iSheep isn't a way to "pump myself up". Too many people buy the iPhone simply as a status symbol because someone they desperately want to emulate has one, but if they used their brains they'd probably make a different choice. The same can be said for those who "Hate Windows 8"...but have never used it. An iSheep is someone who blindly follows the newest fad and has no idea why, or hates on something because someone else told them something sucks without experiencing it themselves. Sounds to me like a struck a nerve... If I did, oh well. This is the Internets... Feel free to defend Apple, and I'll feel free to say things that bother you. I for one, always look at every new phone, computer, and tablet that comes out as I'm a huge geek. iPhones simply haven't interested me. At all.

 

[adriandb]

Seemed more along the lines of "status symbol" to me.

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I never understood the idea that the iPhone is a status symbol. Are they difficult no get? No. Are they more expensive than other phones? No. Are they in limited supply? No. Do you have to know someone to get one? No. So in what way is an iPhone a status symbol? If anything they're ubiquitous.

Too many people buy the iPhone simply as a status symbol because someone they desperately want to emulate has one, but if they used their brains they'd probably make a different choice.

This is a totally flawed argument. Where is your empirical evidence to support this? Why is it so hard for you to believe that an iPhone is the right choice for a lot of people?

An iSheep is someone who blindly follows the newest fad and has no idea why, or hates on something because someone else told them something sucks without experiencing it themselves.

Uninformed consumers have existed for quite a while longer than the iPhone or Apple. If that is what is so annoying to you you should probably just get over it. That isn't going away.

I for one, always look at every new phone, computer, and tablet that comes out as I'm a huge geek. iPhones simply haven't interested me. At all.

Then you and I are similar in many ways, but we are in the minority. For the majority of users, iOS is the right choice because its simple to use and requires almost no maintenance. When Samsung ran their ads saying that iPhones were the phones for your parents, they were right. I happily told my parents to get iPhones. I'd never tell them to get an android device because there's too much they would be frustrated by, too much they would have to learn in terms of battery management, and I'd have to support that.

We are all free to say what we like, but if you have to resort to name calling to make a point you're detracting from what you're saying.

 

[return_0]

I never understood the idea that the iPhone is a status symbol. Are they difficult no get? No. Are they more expensive than other phones? No. Are they in limited supply? No. Do you have to know someone to get one? No. So in what way is an iPhone a status symbol? If anything they're ubiquitous.

If someone says that they bought an iPhone because "it's an iPhone", that implies that it's a status symbol (for them, at least). That's what I was saying in my post.

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