T-mobile is claiming they are now 3rd

[Almeuit]

Why would they give us power users less priority? We are not stealing any bandwidth? I'm paying 128 dollars a month for 2 unlimited data lines of service. It's not free.

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Dang -- is that from the taxes?

 

[raino]

I'm on T-Mobile and did over a terabyte couple months back. I still was getting over 100MB Download speeds.

Good. Like I said, their network can handle it right now. Oh, and while I've heard rumors other types of network optimization/prioritization taking place, let's stick with the facts: T-Mobile Accessibility Policy | Hearing and Vision Loss Compatible Phones | T-Mobile

To provide a good service experience for the majority of our customers, and minimize capacity issues and degradation in network performance, we may manage network traffic through prioritization. This means that customers who use more data than what is used by 97% of what all customers use in a given month, based on recent historical averages, might in some cases have their data usage prioritized below the data of other customers during times and in places of network contention.

So there you go. TMO reserves the right to throttle you.

 

[Almeuit]

Good. Like I said, their network can handle it right now. Oh, and while I've heard rumors other types of network optimization/prioritization taking place, let's stick with the facts: T-Mobile Accessibility Policy | Hearing and Vision Loss Compatible Phones | T-Mobile



So there you go. TMO reserves the right to throttle you.

We didn't say they couldn't right? We said they don't.... This isn't new Raino -- ANY network reserves the right to throttle you if you go into the terms .

 

[raino]

And? We didn't say they couldn't right? We said they don't.... This isn't new Raino -- ANY network reserves the right to throttle you if you go into the terms .

They don't? Are you absolutely sure about that?

PSA: T-Mobile's new unlimited unthrottled 4G plans have a throttle point at 5-7GB. - AnandTech Forums
T-mobile 4g Unlimited Plans and data caps for throttling
T-Mobile Unlimited data being throttled

 

[Almeuit]

They don't? Are you absolutely sure about that?

PSA: T-Mobile's new unlimited unthrottled 4G plans have a throttle point at 5-7GB. - AnandTech Forums
T-mobile 4g Unlimited Plans and data caps for throttling
T-Mobile Unlimited data being throttled

Very sure about that -- see below!



Edit - Also some of those threads are from 2013 ... Talk about out-dated information.

 

[raino]

Very sure about that -- see below!

Good for you too. Maybe you are fortunate enought to not have been put under a network optimization rule...if that's what happened to those people from AT and HoFo.

Edit - Also some of those threads are from 2013 ... Talk about out-dated information.

That information is from the post-unthrottled/unlimited Uncarrier era, i.e. from when TMO has been claiming to not throttle. So what exactly makes it outdated?

 

[Almeuit]

Good for you too. Maybe you are fortunate enought to not have been put under a network optimization rule...if that's what happened to those people from AT and HoFo.



That information is from the post-unthrottled/unlimited Uncarrier era, i.e. from when TMO has been claiming to not throttle. So what exactly makes it outdated?

Network management and throttling are two different things -- just FYI. All carriers will throttle if a cell site is slammed .. It is a way to keep the network up.

AT&T throttles unlimited users ... once you go over 5 GB .. your speeds are bad . 24/7 the rest of the cycle. Regardless if a site is congested or you're the only one on it. That is throttle ... A temp slow down due to a site being congested is way different.

 

[raino]

Network management and throttling are two different things -- just FYI. All carriers will throttle if a cell site is slammed .. It is a way to keep the network up.

Network management was just a guess The best case, most pro-TMO guess...otherwise those people got throttled for some other not-so-nice reasons. Anyway, you said that they only reserve the right, not exercise it. I was pointing to possible evidence to the contrary.

And I've got to tell you...the guy from Anandtech was given a clear data threshold for throttling. That doesn't sound like network optimization to me, when your speeds go down at an exact data consumption point.

 

[Almeuit]

Network management was just a guess The best case, most pro-TMO guess...otherwise those people got throttled for some other not-so-nice reasons. Anyway, you said that they only reserve the right, not exercise it. I was pointing to possible evidence to the contrary.

And I've got to tell you...the guy from Anandtech was given a clear data threshold for throttling. That doesn't sound like network optimization to me, when your speeds go down at an exact data consumption point.

So you're basing the clear throttle point on a post from 2013 even though mine from today shows ... How many times that data usage and I'm good still ? Just doesn't make sense .

 

[raino]

So you're basing the clear throttle point on a post from 2013 even though mine from today shows ... How many times that data usage and I'm good still ? Just doesn't make sense .

I'm not understanding why you're emphasizing 2013. Why is that relevant? Did something change since then, like TMO enacting an absolutely no-throttle policy?

And aside from network optimization, there could be other reasons for you not getting throttled, but those people did. Different plans, for one--just as an example.

 

[Almeuit]

I'm not understanding why you're emphasizing 2013. Why is that relevant? Did something change since then, like TMO enacting an absolutely no-throttle policy?

And aside from network optimization, there could be other reasons for you not getting throttled, but those people did. Different plans, for one--just as an example.

Exactly my point. Different times by 2 years and different plans. Those must've had a hard cap. These don't.. I've hit upwards of 1 TB with no throttle. You're comparing someone being throttled at 2013 to saying that's now even though many of us are examples of the current system where we don't get throttled at 4-8 GB like they did .. Back in 2013.

 

[raino]

Exactly my point. Different times by 2 years and different plans. Those must've had a hard cap. These don't.. I've hit upwards of 1 TB with no throttle. You're comparing someone being throttled at 2013 to saying that's now even though many of us are examples of the current system where we don't get throttled at 4-8 GB like they did .. Back in 2013.

Lol by 'different plan' I meant different from yours, but still unlimited unthrottled. I should have clarified that. And if you read those posts/threads, they all claim to be on unthrottled unlimited plans--the $20 unlimited in a couple of the cases.

"Back in 2013" would be relevant if TMO underwent a massive, publicly announced change in policy re: throttling since then. Did I miss such an announcement? I know in 2014 they announced they would throttle customers using data plans for ToS violations, but is there something earlier from 2013? If not, then the policies essentially remain the same.

 

[GreenghostUvln]

I hit 60gb one time but I avg about 30 with no throttle and I'm on prepaid.

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[Almeuit]

Lol by 'different plan' I meant different from yours, but still unlimited unthrottled. I should have clarified that. And if you read those posts/threads, they all claim to be on unthrottled unlimited plans--the $20 unlimited in a couple of the cases.

"Back in 2013" would be relevant if TMO underwent a massive, publicly announced change in policy re: throttling since then. Did I miss such an announcement? I know in 2014 they announced they would throttle customers using data plans for ToS violations, but is there something earlier from 2013? If not, then the policies essentially remain the same.

What we're disagreeing on I think are two different things. I agree they throttle for network management. I do not agree after a limit. As you point out they were told a certain GB then throttled .. I've been between 20 GB and 1028 GB .. No throttle. Others are the same in the 50,60,100 range and nothing. So back then the limit may have been there and been low .. But now a days if I can hit 1 TB and not be throttled I'd say the limit is gone or it's something even more ridiculous than 1 TB.

 

[HawaiiD]

Dang -- is that from the taxes?

No that's my phone bill total Almeuit

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[HawaiiD]

They don't? Are you absolutely sure about that?

PSA: T-Mobile's new unlimited unthrottled 4G plans have a throttle point at 5-7GB. - AnandTech Forums
T-mobile 4g Unlimited Plans and data caps for throttling
T-Mobile Unlimited data being throttled

I have yet to see my data speeds drop. I don't normally use a terabyte. I just did it to see if I would get throttled? I did it in about 2 weeks. Then once I hit the terabyte I tapered off. I normally use anywhere from 50-70 GB a month.
But as far as being on a truly unlimited data plan? It been great so far.


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[HawaiiD]

Good for you too. Maybe you are fortunate enought to not have been put under a network optimization rule...if that's what happened to those people from AT and HoFo.



That information is from the post-unthrottled/unlimited Uncarrier era, i.e. from when TMO has been claiming to not throttle. So what exactly makes it outdated?

Maybe they are on the older 4g plan that throttles after 2.5GB. Heck... even the new 4 line 100 dollar plans is labeled unlimited data with a cap of high speed data at 2.5GB per line..
It is technically unlimited though.

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[mdk32014]

Good i am glad 50 gb is still alot. I guess you watch alot of videos.

 

[anon(5719825)]

They don't? Are you absolutely sure about that?

PSA: T-Mobile's new unlimited unthrottled 4G plans have a throttle point at 5-7GB. - AnandTech Forums
T-mobile 4g Unlimited Plans and data caps for throttling
T-Mobile Unlimited data being throttled

If you are on a unlimited 4G T-Mobile plan, it is truly unlimited. I have used 75GB in one week before and have never heard a word from T-Mobile. They are amazing. I can't recommend them enough. The above linked reports are wrong. Some of those go back to 2013 when they may have throttled but they don't do that now and haven't for at least two years.

 

[raino]

If you are on a unlimited 4G T-Mobile plan, it is truly unlimited. I have used 75GB in one week before and have never heard a word from T-Mobile. They are amazing. I can't recommend them enough. The above linked reports are wrong. Some of those go back to 2013 when they may have throttled but they don't do that now and haven't for at least two years.

Right, they are from 2013, but if you read through the posts, they are unlimited unthrottled Uncarrier-era plans. The only thing that has publicly changed is price: these plans are now $80. At that time they were $70.