Tablets that are not limited to 2GB for apps

[Prioris Prioris]

found this ...

https://forums.androidcentral.com/a...y-how-deal-insufficient-storage-warnings.html

To understand this kind of problem, it's important to understand how storage memory is allocated and used in Android. Older Android phones (ones that came with Android versions up to and sometimes including 4.0) typically break up storage memory into 3 main partitions (i.e., areas):

1. Application Storage: Where Android installs apps. This can range from as little as 256 MB to 3 GB, depending on the phone. Lower end phones usually have less storage, and therefore can have fewer apps installed at one time. Data that the apps generate and save on the phone may also be saved here, although they might also be saved in one of the 2 other areas below. When you start to approach the Application Storage limit, you start getting insufficient storage warnings. You can free up Application Storage by moving some apps to #2 below, but you can never move the entire app, because some key elements need to remain in Application Storage.

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3. External SD Card: This is the physical microSD card that you can remove. Most of these older phones can handle up to a 32 GB card, which seems like it should greatly expand your phone's capabilities, but the problem is that the external SD card can really only be used to store media files (like photos, videos, and music), and as an ancillary storage area for some apps (but not all).

 

[Prioris Prioris]

https://www.howtogeek.com/114667/ho...y-default-move-almost-any-app-to-the-sd-card/

Android 6.0 Marshmallow lets you “adopt” your SD card as internal storage, automatically installing allowed apps to the SD card. Some pre-Marshmallow devices may let you move apps manually, but only if the developer allows it. If you want more flexibility than either of these options offer, you can root your phone and use an app called Link2SD to make it happen. We’ll detail all three methods in this article.

 

[Prioris Prioris]

I just went thru every android 10 inch tablet on amazon and they are all android 4.4 or lower. Never noticed that.

 

[Ry]

Android tablets only have 2GB available to install applications

That sounds like it's not the case for all Android tablets.

 

[Ry]

I tried many brands of economical tablets over the past 10 years. Last three were Pumpkin, Nobis and RCA.

Got specific models you can post about?

 

[Ry]

No source Just experience from using multiple tablets. I heard anonymous report many many years back that google intentional did it that way.

If you have some economical 16GB/32GB tablets, you could experiment by trying to install some large free programs that take up lots of space and see what happens.

Define economical.

 

[Prioris Prioris]

Found a Lenovo that had marshmallow android ... did a chat with lenovo ... said their 16GB 10 inch tablets only had 2 GB for apps ...

 

[Prioris Prioris]

economical is under $200

 

[Prioris Prioris]

The Samsung galaxy tablets have 8GB's for apps space - confirmed that with chat support - but new they run over $400. it would make more sense to buy a notebook. there seems to be a conspiracy among manufacturers in that 2 GB limitation to force people to buy expensive ones. the more high priced ones are not necessarily better but consumer satisfaction may have a lot to do with that added memory

 

[Ry]

Found a Lenovo that had marshmallow android ... did a chat with lenovo ... said their 16GB 10 inch tablets only had 2 GB for apps ...

Which model?

 

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but new they run over $400.

That depends on the model.
Some of them are well under $200.

 

[Prioris Prioris]

I picked out 3 other tablet manufacturers which i called 2 so far

Acer ... they refused to tell me
ASUS ... they also refused to answer that

their comeback eventual comeback after many wrong answers was ... we need a serial number to verify ... LOL

UN-F*********-BELEIVABLE

so default answer is 2GB

this is tablet app-storage-gate ... LOL

at least i wasn't imagining things

 

[Prioris Prioris]

there are no new 10 inch galaxy tablets under 400

 

[Itsa_Me_Mario]

If you are buying Android tablets, the only tablets you should ever even consider are the Pixel C and the NVIDIA Shield Tablet K1. At this point, you'd be better off getting a convertible Chromebook like the Samsung Chromebook Plus or the Pixelbook. iPads are also pretty decent. All of those have a minimum of 16 GB with options to go up to 512 GB.

The rule for Tablets is pretty straightforward... skimp on the pricetag and buy a piece of crap... you end up with a piece of crap.

 

[B. Diddy]

There is no 2 GB limit. You're probably dealing with devices that come with either 4 or 8 GB of internal storage, which means that after accounting for the OS and any preinstalled bloatware, you only have 1-4 GB of free space to install apps. That's probably what you're seeing. Another possibility is that older devices partitioned internal storage into a smaller app installation area and a larger "internal SD," which acted like an external SD (i.e., you couldn't install apps directly there -- see this guide for more info: https://forums.androidcentral.com/a...y-how-deal-insufficient-storage-warnings.html) Manufacturers stopped doing this a while ago, such that any recent tablet can utilize all available internal storage for app installation (after accounting for the storage that has to be taken up by the OS and any preinstalled bloatware, which can be as much as 8-10 GB, depending on the device).

I can tell you that the 16 GB Lenovo Tab 4 8, which I recently got for my daughter, and which is a budget-level tablet, can utilize all 10 GB of its free internal storage for app installation. I think your problem is that you're going for the super-cheap (and super-bad) off-brand or no-name tablets that either come with piddly amounts of internal storage (8 GB is way too small these days, since that will only leave you with about 3-4 GB of free internal storage; and a 4 GB tablet should just go directly into the recycling bin) or are so outdated that they still use that partitioning I mentioned above.

 

[B. Diddy]

there are no new 10 inch galaxy tablets under 400

The Lenovo Tab 4 10, which is very similar in specs to the Tab 4 8 I mentioned in my previous post, is <$200: https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Andro...ag=hawk-future-20&ascsubtag=UUacUvbUpU6169508

 

[Prioris Prioris]

The Lenovo Tab 4 10, which is very similar in specs to the Tab 4 8 I mentioned in my previous post, is <$200: https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Andro...ag=hawk-future-20&ascsubtag=UUacUvbUpU6169531

Lenovo told me there is only 2GB for apps ... so doesn't solve insufficient memory problem

 

[B. Diddy]

I can tell you that isn't correct. The Lenovo Tab 4 10 is essentially the same as my daughter's Lenovo Tab 4 8, and it has about 11-12 GB of available free storage to install apps. I've installed plenty of apps on her tablet, well above 2 GB. It's hard to know who you're reaching at these companies, but unless you're talking to high level tech people, they probably know less than the average person on these forums.

It's also important to distinguish something here -- you're talking about internal storage and not RAM, right? These tablets do have 2 GB of RAM, but that has nothing to do with how many apps can be installed. It's possible the people you're talking to at these companies assume you're asking about RAM.

 

[Prioris Prioris]

If you are buying Android tablets, the only tablets you should ever even consider are the Pixel C and the NVIDIA Shield Tablet K1. At this point, you'd be better off getting a convertible Chromebook like the Samsung Chromebook Plus or the Pixelbook. iPads are also pretty decent. All of those have a minimum of 16 GB with options to go up to 512 GB.

The rule for Tablets is pretty straightforward... skimp on the pricetag and buy a piece of crap... you end up with a piece of crap.

NVIDIA Shield is just 8 inch screen .... got to be 10 inches ... i'd have to call them to see if their willing to tell me how much many GB for apps
Pixel C ... used $600 ... $1000 new ... it's good if you got money to burn ... being expensive, i would have to assume they give you more than 2GB for apps
I see no indication how much chromebook is but i see ASUS selling them and they refuse to disclose storage so have to assume 2GB
I see Acer selling Chromebook convertible but since app storage is a secret with them ...
IPADs are an arm and a leg ... plus expensive and relegated to apple apps store


you tried


The rule for Tablets is pretty straightforward... tablet manufacturers rip the consumer off and lie by omission .... for a feature that should cost them virtually nothing - changing a few numbers in a partition text file but no hardware and software changes - they could give the consumer added GB space for apps for virtually no cost

 

[Ry]

NVIDIA Shield is just 8 inch screen .... got to be 10 inches ... i'd have to call them to see if their willing to tell me how much many GB for apps
Pixel C ... used $600 ... $1000 new ... it's good if you got money to burn ... being expensive, i would have to assume they give you more than 2GB for apps
I see no indication how much chromebook is but i see ASUS selling them and they refuse to disclose storage so have to assume 2GB
I see Acer selling Chromebook convertible but since app storage is a secret with them ...
IPADs are an arm and a leg ... plus expensive and relegated to apple apps store


you tried


The rule for Tablets is pretty straightforward... tablet manufacturers rip the consumer off and lie by omission .... for a feature that should cost them virtually nothing - changing a few numbers in a partition text file but no hardware and software changes - they could give the consumer added GB space for apps for virtually no cost

I think you're wrong. B. Diddy already posted a sub $200, 10" a Android tablet that has more than 2GB of storage space available for apps. There is no conspiracy.