Tablets that are not limited to 2GB for apps

[Itsa_Me_Mario]

I don't know how I missed that this was a waste of time due to the wildly strange assumptions and tin foil style misinformation campaign. My fault; best of luck to you in your search.

 

[Prioris Prioris]

I can tell you that isn't correct. The Lenovo Tab 4 10 is essentially the same as my daughter's Lenovo Tab 4 8, and it has about 11-12 GB of available free storage to install apps. I've installed plenty of apps on her tablet, well above 2 GB. It's hard to know who you're reaching at these companies, but unless you're talking to high level tech people, they probably know less than the average person on these forums.

It's also important to distinguish something here -- you're talking about internal storage and not RAM, right? These tablets do have 2 GB of RAM, but that has nothing to do with how many apps can be installed. It's possible the people you're talking to at these companies assume you're asking about RAM.

We are not talking about RAM ... because the OS reads the program from app storage partition and runs it in RAM. All programs use RAM.... fastest memory are cpu registers .... second is cache memory .... third fastest is RAM

I got 2GB directly from Lenovo mouth. They were sure about it too.

One thing I need to research is if you use an SD card plus a particular Android version like marshmellow, would it allow complete apps to be installed, any restrictions and how much ... so will ponder and research that

 

[L0n3N1nja]

Android tablets only have 2GB available to install applications

Not an issue with an Android tablet I've used.

 

[Prioris Prioris]

I don't know how I missed that this was a waste of time due to the wildly strange assumptions and tin foil style misinformation campaign. My fault; best of luck to you in your search.

I did the research. You did no research. Maybe you do the work.

Posting garbage like "tin foil style misinformation campaign" puts red flags on you. this forum probably has rules about winging name calling insults against other posters.
Either provide information on issue or don't bother me.

 

[Prioris Prioris]

I think you're wrong. B. Diddy already posted a sub $200, 10" a Android tablet that has more than 2GB of storage space available for apps. There is no conspiracy.

This would contradict what Lenovo told me. There is no explanation how this is done. Where is the documentation that explicitly would tells me this.

 

[Itsa_Me_Mario]

I did the research. You did no research. Maybe you do the work.

Posting garbage like "tin foil style misinformation campaign" puts red flags on you. this forum probably has rules about winging name calling insults against other posters.
Either provide information on issue or don't bother me.

I mean I guess I've owned a lot of tablets and have never encountered an issue anywhere remotely like what you're describing. I owned the Nvidia Shield tablet and the pixel C and the Nexus 7 and Nexus 7 version 2 and the Nexus 9 and none of them have this issue. And given that I only Buy tablets that I know of good quality I think it's safe to assume that buying poor quality Tablet is what's leading to the issue and that is not something inherent to tablets in general.

 

[Prioris Prioris]

I mean I guess I've owned a lot of tablets and have never encountered an issue anywhere remotely like what you're describing. I owned the Nvidia Shield tablet and the pixel C and the Nexus 7 and Nexus 7 version 2 and the Nexus 9 and none of them have this issue. And given that I only Buy tablets that I know of good quality I think it's safe to assume that buying poor quality Tablet is what's leading to the issue and that is not something inherent to tablets in general.

I said it multiple times in my posts. High priced tablets tweak the partition text file numbers to allow more app storage. It is simple to do. Seeing the list of brand name tablets you bought, I can understand why you had no problem.

Few peons can afford such 10 inch brand name tablets. All the low cost tablets I have bought have been great except for the app space. they didn't tweak the partition table to allow greater app storage.

maybe google which control android licensing makes manufacturers pay an arm and leg in fees for anything over 2GB. I don't know.

 

[Itsa_Me_Mario]

I said it multiple times in my posts. High priced tablets tweak the partition text file numbers to allow more app storage. Seeing the list of brand name tablets you bought, I can understand why you had no problem.

Few peons can afford such 10 inch brand name tablets. All the low cost tablets I have bought have been great except for the app space. they didn't tweak the partition table to allow greater app storage.

maybe google which control android licensing makes manufacturers pay an arm and leg in fees for anything over 2GB. I don't know.

Yeah I'm sorry I don't know the answer to your question I wish I could help out. The best suggestion if you're looking for a 10 inch I've said check out the Nexus 9 it's probably available for a good price. But otherwise I just don't know and I wish you the best of luck trying to figure this out.

 

[Golfdriver97]

I said it multiple times in my posts. High priced tablets tweak the partition text file numbers to allow more app storage. Seeing the list of brand name tablets you bought, I can understand why you had no problem.

Few peons can afford such 10 inch brand name tablets. All the low cost tablets I have bought have been great except for the app space. they didn't tweak the partition table to allow greater app storage.

maybe google which control android licensing makes manufacturers pay an arm and leg in fees for anything over 2GB. I don't know.

There are no license fees. Android is open source.

 

[Prioris Prioris]

I did ind this comment on SD card

Can apps be installed on an sd card?

The SD card can be used for temporary file storage or be formated as part of device memory. The first time an SD card is inserted you will be asked how it is to be used. As part of device memory it can hold apps.
William D Harris answered on July 23, 2017

Not really. Some apps can be moved but not most. Some share space on both international and sd card storage. Look up differences between Android versions. This currently has Nougat 7.1.1
Henry answered on July 23, 2017

 

[Itsa_Me_Mario]

I did ind this comment on SD card

Can apps be installed on an sd card?

The SD card can be used for temporary file storage or be formated as part of device memory. The first time an SD card is inserted you will be asked how it is to be used. As part of device memory it can hold apps.
William D Harris answered on July 23, 2017

Not really. Some apps can be moved but not most. Some share space on both international and sd card storage. Look up differences between Android versions. This currently has Nougat 7.1.1
Henry answered on July 23, 2017

So the SD card thing really depends on which version of Android they're using and how exactly the OEM implemented SD card support. In most cases if you're running Android 7 or above the SD card will support app storage if you format as internal storage which has some limitations of its own. However in order for that to work the app developer has to turn on a flag on their app not everyone has done that.

 

[Ry]

This would contradict what Lenovo told me. There is no explanation how this is done. Where is the documentation that explicitly would tells me this.

They're probably misunderstanding RAM vs. storage.

Again - there is no conspiracy. What you're looking for exists.

 

[Ry]

I said it multiple times in my posts. High priced tablets tweak the partition text file numbers to allow more app storage. It is simple to do. Seeing the list of brand name tablets you bought, I can understand why you had no problem.

Few peons can afford such 10 inch brand name tablets. All the low cost tablets I have bought have been great except for the app space. they didn't tweak the partition table to allow greater app storage.

maybe google which control android licensing makes manufacturers pay an arm and leg in fees for anything over 2GB. I don't know.

The original Nexus 7 (from 2012, then priced at $199) didn't have this supposed limitation. There is no conspiracy.

Yes - not a 10" tablet. But still no 2GB limit.

 

[Ry]

IPADs are an arm and a leg ... plus expensive and relegated to apple apps store

iPads used to be expensive. Now they start at $330 and are easy to find on-sale below $300.

And still have arguably a better user experience than any Android tablet ever.

 

[Prioris Prioris]

found this link
how to permanently move apps to sd card [Solved] - Android Smartphones

i am not able to move my apps permanently to sd card. As i restart or switch on my phone all apps automatically gets moved to phone memory.

Well, it is going to depend on what version of Android your phone is running. If it is running anything prior to "Marshmallow" you will not be able to make those changes, as they don't allow for running apps from the SD card on those versions. Also, please note, that some manufacturers have restricted this option even when using "Marshmallow". Why, who knows.


How to turn external SD card into internal storage on "Marshmallow".

1. Go to device “Settings”, then select “Storage”.
2. Select your "SD Card", then tap the “three-dot menu“ (top-right), now select “Settings” from in there.
3. Now select “Format as internal”, and then “Erase & Format”.
4. Your SD Card will now be formatted as internal storage.
5. Reboot your phone.

NOTE: Please be sure you start with a blank SD card. It needs to be blank because when the card is converted to "Internal" storage, it will be formatted (wiped) and encoded (making the cards data only readable by that device).

 

[Ry]

found this link
how to permanently move apps to sd card [Solved] - Android Smartphones

i am not able to move my apps permanently to sd card. As i restart or switch on my phone all apps automatically gets moved to phone memory.

Well, it is going to depend on what version of Android your phone is running. If it is running anything prior to "Marshmallow" you will not be able to make those changes, as they don't allow for running apps from the SD card on those versions. Also, please note, that some manufacturers have restricted this option even when using "Marshmallow". Why, who knows.


How to turn external SD card into internal storage on "Marshmallow".

1. Go to device “Settings”, then select “Storage”.
2. Select your "SD Card", then tap the “three-dot menu“ (top-right), now select “Settings” from in there.
3. Now select “Format as internal”, and then “Erase & Format”.
4. Your SD Card will now be formatted as internal storage.
5. Reboot your phone.

NOTE: Please be sure you start with a blank SD card. It needs to be blank because when the card is converted to "Internal" storage, it will be formatted (wiped) and encoded (making the cards data only readable by that device).

Because it's probably a problematic feature.

B. Diddy already shared a current Lenovo tablet that is 10" and under $200 that can have more than 2GBs worth of applications installed.

 

[B. Diddy]

I got 2GB directly from Lenovo mouth. They were sure about it too.

As I mentioned before, the 16 GB Lenovo Tab 4 8 has about 11-12 GB of free internal storage to install apps to. Not 2 GB. I know this because I have the tablet and have installed about 10 GB of apps. Either the person at Lenovo didn't know what they were talking about, or they misunderstood you and thought you were asking about RAM.

 

[Golfdriver97]

Lenovo told me there is only 2GB for apps

You shouldn't put all your faith in what reps from companies say. I had submitted a ticket to Gigabyte asking how to fix and issue with an M.2 drive as my OS. The board would only go to that drive if I forced it in the BIOS. I was told there was no solution. However, it took them 3 days (My support ticket went to a Canadian center and they had a holiday weekend) to reply. I had chosen to go with a BIOS update in the interim, which worked. When they did respond, the reply was that it wasn't possible.

so doesn't solve insufficient memory problem

I'm honestly still confused....are we talking storage or RAM?

 

[Golfdriver97]

fastest memory are cpu registers .... second is cache memory .... third fastest is RAM

It was my understanding that RAM was a LOT faster than either of the other two.

 

[chanchan05]

What wall of silence? I've used tablets since the P6200 and I've encountered no such limitation. I installed Asphalt 7 on the P6200 and that was 2.3GB. I installed Hearthstone on my Tab 4 before and that's a total of nearly 3GB.

Thete is no conspiracy. That guy at Lenovo you contacted probably doesn't even understand your question. You have no idea how many times I've talked to support of Asus, HP, Samsung, Motorola, Toshiba, etc, and I know more about the subject than they do. Most of the time I'd rather talk to a technician than their customer services.

You can't find any info on this because what you're looking for doesn't exist.

Edit: I think the problem is you keep saying memory. The Lenovo tab is limited to 2GB memory, which is RAM. But reading your thread looks like you are talking about storage. The Lenovo tablet has more than 10GB of storage for apps. Those are 2 different things. No app exists uses up 2GB of memory. Many apps use up more than 2GB of storage. Just don't use the word memory and you'll be fine.

An example of a misunderstanding is if for example we talk about my Tab 4. If you ask me does it have 2GB memory for apps, I'd say no. It only has 1.5GB memory to run apps. But if you ask me if it has enough storage for large apps, then yes, it has 4GB internal storage available and apps can be moved to an SD card. I currently have about 7GB of apps installed.