Text messages app

[trucksmoveamerica#AC]

so what is the difference or advantage of using chat vs text to another Android device.

Presumably, via chat there's security/encryption and a richer experience. In my opinion, google chat is basically just another third party proprietary messaging app.

The main difference between using a text app like Samsung messages and Google messages is sending videos. Send a video thru Samsung messages and then send it thru Google messages.. The video will be what you sent on Google messages, clear good video quality. Send it thru something like Samsung messages and the video is horrible. Google messages uses data to send videos so it won't be compressed. Unfortunately the way Android phones are set up, both parties have to have Google messages for it to work like that for videos.

Also IMO, all text message apps are third party apps. Android does not have a standard for texting, apple does. IMO, Google needs to make Google messages standard for all Android phones. There can be third party texting apps, but Google messages is the engine. This would standardize the texting apps for Android. iMessages is the main thing apple is spanking Android with. Carriers are trying to control this for monetary gain. I think Google knows this and that is why Google is doing the Google messages as Google knows apple is winning in this department. It would be a huge win for Android if people can use any text app that is posted by Google messages engine and they can send videos to the other Android phones with high quality videos no matter what text app the other person is using as they all are managed by the same Google messages engine, just different layouts.

A huge win for the consumers is if Apple, Google, Motorola and all manufacturers could be set up so all could send between each make with high quality. I know that's dreaming

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[spARTacus]

The main difference between using a text app like Samsung messages and Google messages is sending videos...

A huge win for the consumers is if Apple, Google, Motorola and all manufacturers could be set up so all could send between each make with high quality. I know that's dreaming...

I probably used wrong terms. By third party I was kind of referring to anything like iMessage, Google RCS, WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, FB-Messenger, etc... that doesn't stick to using a standard like SMS/MMS when both parties are on the same app, but instead uses a proprietary exchange protocol. I presume that is why videos from one Google RCS user to another Google RCS user have video quality retained, because SMS/MMS isn't being used. Also, probably why exchange of video via text when Samsung Messages App is used results in crappy video quality, because Samsung Messages App is probably using SMS/MMS for its exchanges (ie: it is actually sending text/SMS/MMS messages via carrier ability to facilitate text/SMS/MMS, as opposed to using a closed loop data exchange through Samsung servers,, even when both ends of the convo are both using Samsung Messages app).

For me personally, I have no desire for the world to move to a "google engine" for short messaging and then everything having to go through google. In my eyes, that'd be no different than the world moving to an "iMessaging engine" and everything having to go through Apple. Or, all of us just moving to WhatsApp or Signal or Telegram.

I agree that a richer SMS/MMS standard, to permit for stuff like higher quality videos and encryption, is desired for all manufactures to then be able to use. Then, no situation like half the world on one proprietary app/protocol and the other half the world on a different one. I think lots of folks thought RCS was going to become the next revamped and updated version of SMS/MMS as an interoperable standard (vs proprietary). However, not yet I guess.

 

[greeman3]

I have tried several texting apps over the years, but always go back to the verizon text app.

 

[trucksmoveamerica#AC]

I have tried several texting apps over the years, but always go back to the verizon text app.

Verizon messages is not even close to being in my radar. So bloated and it's by Verizon. It's things like this that have prevented RCS to grow. Greedy carriers like Verizon are trying to have their own version. All android phones need to be united in RCS and not have it dependent of what carrier you're using. Perfect world android and iPhones could use one system.

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[trucksmoveamerica#AC]

I probably used wrong terms. By third party I was kind of referring to anything like iMessage, Google RCS, WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, FB-Messenger, etc... that doesn't stick to using a standard like SMS/MMS when both parties are on the same app, but instead uses a proprietary exchange protocol. I presume that is why videos from one Google RCS user to another Google RCS user have video quality retained, because SMS/MMS isn't being used. Also, probably why exchange of video via text when Samsung Messages App is used results in crappy video quality, because Samsung Messages App is probably using SMS/MMS for its exchanges (ie: it is actually sending text/SMS/MMS messages via carrier ability to facilitate text/SMS/MMS, as opposed to using a closed loop data exchange through Samsung servers,, even when both ends of the convo are both using Samsung Messages app).

For me personally, I have no desire for the world to move to a "google engine" for short messaging and then everything having to go through google. In my eyes, that'd be no different than the world moving to an "iMessaging engine" and everything having to go through Apple. Or, all of us just moving to WhatsApp or Signal or Telegram.

I agree that a richer SMS/MMS standard, to permit for stuff like higher quality videos and encryption, is desired for all manufactures to then be able to use. Then, no situation like half the world on one proprietary app/protocol and the other half the world on a different one. I think lots of folks thought RCS was going to become the next revamped and updated version of SMS/MMS as an interoperable standard (vs proprietary). However, not yet I guess.

I understand what you're saying about it being like iMessages l, but it's high time that android gets something similar for all android phones to send videos, large files. I said use the Google engine for RCS, other text apps can build off of that for added features, they just have to go off Google RCS.

In a perfect world android and iPhones could do this without third party apps, you know like regular texting. That would be ideal. Obviously nobody is going to either one just for the iMessage or Google messages.

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[mustang7757]

Google RCS messaging app is the only one that can put Emojis to iphone users and Android users , Samsung own messages with RCS can't .

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[spARTacus]

Google RCS messaging app is the only one that can put Emojis to iphone users and Android users , Samsung own messages with RCS can't .

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I use Google Messages app for SMS/MMS, and for the emoji reactions to/from iPhone SMS/MMS, but I specifically do not have the RCS aspects of the Google Messages App enabled.

I wasn't aware Samsung had a Samsung Messages App that had RCS.

 

[mustang7757]

I use Google Messages app for SMS/MMS, and for the emoji reactions to/from iPhone SMS/MMS, but I specifically do not have the RCS aspects of the Google Messages App enabled.

It works with iPhone reactions with chat features off?

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[spARTacus]

It works with iPhone reactions with chat features off?...

The messages with/to iPhones are sent/received by SMS/MMS.

 

[mustang7757]

The messages with/to iPhones are sent/received by SMS/MMS.

So your saying u don't care for iPhone reactions?

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[spARTacus]

No I didn't say that. I am the only one in my family with Android. The rest use Apple. The iPhone emoji reaction thing works great for us. Well, works great for me, on the Apple end I think they show up as separate "...reacted to" texts. Oh well, Apple will probably soon figure that out and perhaps temporary break Google's iPhone emoji reaction thing while they are at it.

I did say that I don't use RCS, and don't really wish to start using it either. Just like I don't really wish to start using iMessaging or WhatsApp or any other proprietary exchange formats. I do agree however that richer functions via an open standard exchange, like an updated SMS/MMS or something like that, would be nice (like if they updated SMS/MMS to add security/encryption, or even better quality pics/video exchange).

 

[mustang7757]

No I didn't say that. I am the only one in my family with Android. The rest use Apple. The iPhone emoji reaction thing works great for us. Well, works great for me, on the Apple end I think they show up as separate "...reacted to" texts. Oh well, Apple will probably soon figure that out and perhaps temporary break Google's iPhone emoji reaction thing while they are at it.

I did say that I don't use RCS, and don't really wish to start using it either. Just like I don't really wish to start using iMessaging or WhatsApp or any other proprietary exchange formats. I do agree however that richer functions via an open standard exchange, like an updated SMS/MMS or something like that, would be nice (like if they updated SMS/MMS to add security/encryption, or even better quality pics/video exchange).

I don't think they care to encrypt sms that's why RCS has come about and future if something else doesn't come around.

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[monkeycsk]

i have been using Tetra for a long time and it's decent. i especially like the feature you can schedule to send a message at a later date/time.

i have been using Textra for a long time as well. it's decent

 

[Laura Knotek]

I don't think they care to encrypt sms that's why RCS has come about and future if something else doesn't come around.

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I agree. My thought is that SMS/MMS will eventually be deprecated.