The 6p is hands down the best phone ever made!

I really think it's too the point where the quality of the picture is much more to do with the person taking the shot than the phone. That's why there really isn't a real consensus as to which phone takes the best pictures... Reviews are all over the place. S6/Note 5, V10, 6S+, 6P, etc.. All are ranked best.

Yup. I can agree with that. Pics in these top of the line phones are all pretty comparable. Some are a little better than others in certain situations. But it's negligible at best. Great for the consumer.
 
When I had my iPhone 6S, it always connected as well as my previous phones. Some took a while to connect but it never disconnected randomly or worst that it won't pair afterwards.

I'll talk to Nissan if there's an upgrade.
 
Going to the Nexus 6p Aluminum from my Moto X 2013 I thought would be a struggle...but really it amazed me that I found it easy. Slipping a case on it as hands are worn out from handling paper helped with the slipperiness without it. Screen quality is stunning but the adaptive brightness needs some work. It's fast with no stutter. Camera takes beautiful, detailed all around photos. The steadier you hold the camera, the sharper the results are. Also waking up to see Doze just skim off a tiny amount of battery...WOW! I now get 5+ days after using 4hrs SOT for web, 2 emails, and hangouts. Oh, and the updates are icing on the cake.
For me, it's the one.
 
Note 5 has better hardware, but Touchwiz ruins everything.

TW certainly isn't all that appealing, and this is just my opinion, but I wouldn't say it "ruins everything" on the Note 5. I'm interested to see what they do with the S6. Hopefully they'll continue to scale things back and make it a little more aesthetically pleasing (less cartoonish). But a lot of TW features, specifically with the Note series, are pretty useful. My biggest gripe is their RAM management. Hopefully their resolve won't simply be to add an extra GB. That's not a solution, and one thing I simply can't and won't tolerate on any phone, is poor RAM management.

Selfishly I'm in need of a work phone, and hope to consider the S6 (or M10 ... maybe even a 2nd 6p) so I'm really hoping Samsung makes those necessary improvements. SD storage, larger battery, force touch (which I absolutely love and I'm so excited at its potential) with better RAM management would be more than enough to sell me.
 
I had the 6P, along with the Note 5, and I was really impressed with it when I first go it. The finger print sensor was great, stock android was refreshing, the screen was really nice and I love the USB-C.

Then I used it for about 5 days and I soured a bit. The finger print sensor, while accurate and well placed for a quick unlock, was not so easy to use when I wanted to jump into an app from its lock screen notification. I hope I am explaining that one correctly. Stock android, while clean and guaranteed of updates, had me quickly searching for replacement email programs for my work. Gmail was just horrible for exchange. I also was bored pretty quickly and was missing the theming capability of my Note 5. Finally, I was totally disappointed in the battery life. Now to be fair, it was no worse than any other Android phone I have ever used, meaning it was just ok. I saw no appreciable increase in standby time because of Doze and the lack of bloat. As a matter of fact, my Note 5 had just as good of battery life with a smaller battery, touch wiz and Android 5.1.1. I returned mine.
 
I had the 6P, along with the Note 5, and I was really impressed with it when I first go it. The finger print sensor was great, stock android was refreshing, the screen was really nice and I love the USB-C.

Then I used it for about 5 days and I soured a bit. The finger print sensor, while accurate and well placed for a quick unlock, was not so easy to use when I wanted to jump into an app from its lock screen notification. I hope I am explaining that one correctly. Stock android, while clean and guaranteed of updates, had me quickly searching for replacement email programs for my work. Gmail was just horrible for exchange. I also was bored pretty quickly and was missing the theming capability of my Note 5. Finally, I was totally disappointed in the battery life. Now to be fair, it was no worse than any other Android phone I have ever used, meaning it was just ok. I saw no appreciable increase in standby time because of Doze and the lack of bloat. As a matter of fact, my Note 5 had just as good of battery life with a smaller battery, touch wiz and Android 5.1.1. I returned mine.

that's disappointing you didn't get to experience the better battery life. doze gets my though the night at only 2-3%, I get a full day with an average 5 hours SOT (less if I play a lot of games) and when I get home from work I'm anywhere bt 20-40% (usually closer to 40%).

I have no clue what the Note team does to optimize that battery. Even the Galaxy S series doesn't come close to that efficiency. I'm anxious to see how it operates with Doze.
 
6P is the best Nexus phone to date but there's still a large gap between it and Note 5 or Galaxy S6 Edge+. Maybe the next iteration of 6P will be closer but for now I'll stick with the true best.
 
I'm not really into defending one phone or the other - they're both great phones. I think that pen is also a big differentiator. For me, I just got fed up with the terrible update process with carrier phones. I don't really need a pen. Anyway...

Stock android, while clean and guaranteed of updates, had me quickly searching for replacement email programs for my work. Gmail was just horrible for exchange. I also was bored pretty quickly and was missing the theming capability of my Note 5.

My perspective on Nexus phones is that they just provide the base (stock Android) and leave it up to you to add your chosen apps to create the overall experience. You get the basics. It is expected that you may have to find the appropriate email app(s) and theming apps and launchers if you don't like the stock Google experience. The difference is that it's not pre-loaded with additional things like TouchWiz and Samsung's email client. You get the Nexus phone, you create the experience you want.

If you really love Samsung's TouchWiz and/or their email client, it's true you can't get it on any other phone so you'll have to go with the Note 5. Those apps aren't available in the Play store.

I saw no appreciable increase in standby time because of Doze and the lack of bloat. As a matter of fact, my Note 5 had just as good of battery life with a smaller battery, touch wiz and Android 5.1.1. I returned mine

I, like many others, have amazing battery life because of Doze. But - some people have had issues with Doze not working. You might have had one of those issues. I agree, though, it should just work.

In any case, you should pick the phone that gives you the experience you prefer. Sounds like the Note 5 is a better fit.
 
I think the 6P is fantastic but the note 5 is still an overall better device in my opinion.

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That's the whole thing though, it's a matter of opinion. I happen to think the Nexus 6 is the best. (for me)

But glad to hear that people are enjoying the 6P.
 
I have no clue what the Note team does to optimize that battery.

Kernel management. There's a ton of kernel parameters that have a significant impact on the active power consumption. When the phone transitions to the high power cores, how quickly it drops back to the little cluster.... What frequencies are picked under what load, etc.

Samsung is pretty conservative, getting back on that low-power cluster quickly and not ramping up easily. Whereas Google is middle of the road, letting the processor load up a little quicker and hold higher for longer.

The end result is that the Note will have a lower active power drain. But the Nexus will run smoother in most situations (that's not all kernel differences, but a major portion of it is).

Luckily, Nexus types are a clever lot, and if you flash a custom kernel, you can load up various kernel profiles to do what you want... Prioritize power usage or performance, or somewhere in between.

That's why I prefer Nexus devices. There's little you can't do since you have nothing standing in your way. No locked bootloaders, no Knox keeping you from messing with the system software. Even themes, there are two different systems; CM theme engine, and RRO layers.. Each with loads of themes available.
 
i agree with OP

best phone i have owned, and best android phone out there. It works, Its fast, its reliable and the battery is finally not a problem.
 
I, like many others, have amazing battery life because of Doze

I hope the next Nexus phone will have a Doze-like feature for the phone that works when the screen is off and the phone is moving (like in a pocket) and not only when the screen is off and the phone is perfectly still.
 
totally agree, and I think that's the natural evolution for doze ... it would really put battery life over the top.
 
I hope the next Nexus phone will have a Doze-like feature for the phone that works when the screen is off and the phone is moving (like in a pocket) and not only when the screen is off and the phone is perfectly still.

Google may open up the feature a bit in the next version... there are a ton of configuration options, but they are hardwired at the moment. Rooted users can go in there and fuss with the parameters (including having it trigger no matter if it detects motion or not) via a couple of apps that are out there.

I can see why Google choose to configure it the way they did.... Doze will disable pretty much everything going on in the background. A feature like Google Now would be significantly impacted. With Doze running, say goodbye to the real-time traffic alerts, etc. Google tries not to add a ton of extra settings to Android, because we users would invariably screw things up and blame Google for our own utter ineptitude. :)