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Tiered pricing will tick me off and it doesn?t make any sense either. Forget the amount of data that you download ? that doesn?t matter. What matters is the length of time of your data transfer.

If I download for 3 minutes on a 3G connection or on a 4G connection I have the same effect on the network. The 3G network gave me 10MB of data and the 4G network gave me 100 MB of data (just round numbers for arguments sake:p) because the network transfers data at the speed it transfers data. I eat up bandwidth while I am using it. Since I will get my data faster, I will actually be connected less and use less of their bandwidth.

In fact, from what I understand of LTE (and I am no expert) my bandwidth usage has less effect on other users than CDMA did. So why should I pay by the amount of data downloaded? I could understand paying more for being connected longer but not for how much data is transferred.

I just don't want to get buried with ridiculous overage fees. :mad:

The advent of widgets and apps that push data to get updates ensure that devices have more uptime. Think of every twitter refresh on every phone over the entire network. Yeah, it'll be faster on the updates, but the faster the network, the more people use it.
 
That's pretty much where I was going with my example. Thanks for the great info. I have to admit I was skeptical of you at first, and I still reserve the right to a bit of "healthy" skepticism, but if I had to bet on one or the other, I think you're on the level.

I somewhat agree. It's almost always good to keep a little bit of healthy skepticism. A major reason why I believe him is the way he has handled himself. Every other troll or supposed insider that has made BS release dates, rumors, etc had the tell-tale signs of being such. Bennnnn was patient, never returned the attacks thrown upon him, and was always consistent with showing up and giving us updates. He showed a level of maturity and professionalism that others did not. It's like when you know you're telling the truth and everybody is calling you a liar, and much worse. You just calmly and patiently sit their and maintain your story. Why, because you know you're right and you see how foolish those attacking you are being, so you don't return the attacks and remain level headed. Bennnnn has acted like that the entire time, and I like to think that that would be the exact same way I would have acted, and that, simply, has been the overwhelming reason (my #2 reason is because I wanted to believe the things he has said, but then again, the way he has acted is a major reason why I wanted to believe the things he has said) why I have put a lot of faith in what he has said. Thus far, he has been a class-act and is a good example for a lot of us on how to act/
 
so on the chance that we end up with tiered pricing (still hoping not) what plans would people be getting? i have an unlimited plan on my blackberry but i hardly use the data at all, only for the occasional google. i'm sure that would change if i had a tbolt and apps that used data, youtube, or google music/pandora. how much data might that use per month?
 
I somewhat agree. It's almost always good to keep a little bit of healthy skepticism. A major reason why I believe him is the way he has handled himself. Every other troll or supposed insider that has made BS release dates, rumors, etc had the tell-tale signs of being such. Bennnnn was patient, never returned the attacks thrown upon him, and was always consistent with showing up and giving us updates. He showed a level of maturity and professionalism that others did not. It's like when you know you're telling the truth and everybody is calling you a liar, and much worse. You just calmly and patiently sit their and maintain your story. Why, because you know you're right and you see how foolish those attacking you are being, so you don't return the attacks and remain level headed. Bennnnn has acted like that the entire time, and I like to think that that would be the exact same way I would have acted, and that, simply, has been the overwhelming reason (my #2 reason is because I wanted to believe the things he has said, but then again, the way he has acted is a major reason why I wanted to believe the things he has said) why I have put a lot of faith in what he has said. Thus far, he has been a class-act and is a good example for a lot of us on how to act/

well said. bad beat last night, canes fan. i was pullin for you guys. (duke fan)
 
so on the chance that we end up with tiered pricing (still hoping not) what plans would people be getting? i have an unlimited plan on my blackberry but i hardly use the data at all, only for the occasional google. i'm sure that would change if i had a tbolt and apps that used data, youtube, or google music/pandora. how much data might that use per month?

I think we'd have to see the plans and pricing before we can really make that decision, at least for me.
 
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I'm not going to answer questions on tiered pricing because I'm not 100% certain of which ones will be used. We've created price models from unlimited 4G to heavily tiered, so before we all start speculating, it's best to just wait till you hear from Verizon directly. Ultimately its the CFO's decision.


Put in a good word for us AC members; whereas WE the forum members stay on the current Unlimited data for $30.

You, the customer has to purchase a TBolt the 1st day it comes out and say Ben5 sent ya and Verizon will keep you on the current plan. You also have to show proof that you are an AC member that frequents the Tbolt section on AC.

Everybody else gets the tiered plan. Sounds like a "WINNER DUH" to me.
 
I for one dont think they are going to go crazy on the pricing. They dont want to kill the phone before its even released!

Those of us that are coming from Blackberrys we dont use data much since the BB is ****ty! So what do we do, Then you have those that are on the new Data plans were Verizon is giving you a 20.00 credit on data a month. What happens to those contracts. I think we need to see whats released and then keep an eye on your usage very closely the first month and if your getting close to going over then just up your Data plan they will do that and cover your current month to keep you from getting overages.
 
well said. bad beat last night, canes fan. i was pullin for you guys. (duke fan)

Not too bad of a beat. Actually, I guess that's probably the worst way to lose, when you can only blame yourselves, and the fact we were winning the entire game, every single second, just not when the game ended. We fell apart, like we've done sooooo many times this year. If you lose a 19 point lead (halfway through the second half), you can only blame yourself. It just hurt because I was watching the game, like the last time we played UNC, with a good friend, and huge UNC fan, and both times we should have had the game wrapped up, but fell apart and had our hopes and dreams crushed by great shooting. When UNC just started unloading all those 3's with about 4 minutes left, I knew what was in store. The really disappointing thing is that Miami is a team that has the potential to make a huge run in the tournament and be a major dark horse, but there's no chance we're going to make it now. We pretty much had to win the ACC tournie. :'(
 
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Okay after reading Ben's last post I'm confused. I thought Verizon had the last say so when the TB to be released. Now its HTC?
 
Okay after reading Ben's last post I'm confused. I thought Verizon had the last say so when the TB to be released. Now its HTC?

HTC is the one who pushes out updates for the phone, so they have to agree to what verizon is asking for.
 
Okay after reading Ben's last post I'm confused. I thought Verizon had the last say so when the TB to be released. Now its HTC?

i think verizon has changed some terms about how the release will be handled (ie OTA updates that will need to be sent out after release) and HTC has to sign off on them/give final approval ?
 
12 days into my cycle I've used 1.6gig last month was 6.2. 7.1gig month before. I think I average around 6.5gig a month and I don't think I'm on the web that much.
 
I for one dont think they are going to go crazy on the pricing. They dont want to kill the phone before its even released!

Those of us that are coming from Blackberrys we dont use data much since the BB is ****ty! So what do we do, Then you have those that are on the new Data plans were Verizon is giving you a 20.00 credit on data a month. What happens to those contracts. I think we need to see whats released and then keep an eye on your usage very closely the first month and if your getting close to going over then just up your Data plan they will do that and cover your current month to keep you from getting overages.

I agree. I use the web all the time on my Bold but its compressed and its mobile sites. Converted Blackberry users will no doubt use the browser on Android a lot more just because of the restraints we were under. Watching our data usage that first couple of weeks should help decide if the tier is enough. I'm just ready to turn this thing off and get going on the Thunderbolt.
 
Long time lurker, first time poster... Can they make you change your plan if you pay full(non-subsidized) price for the phone? Here's my current choices:

1- Use early upgrade to get phone now renewing 2 year contract

2- Wait and use full (2 year) upgrade in May (my contract ends 9/14/11)

3- Pay full price now, and save my upgrade for when potential future phones come out later this year.

I have set aside tax return money for the phone and am leaning towards paying full price...any thoughts? Or possibly choices I haven't thought of yet?

Thanks.
 
I am a bit more certain due to three reasons:


3) It's up to HTC now to finalize everything so it's their call whether it makes it or not.



This is great news....if I am reading this correctly, you are saying that BIG RED is ready to go. That the if the phone does not come out on the 17th it is not because of BIG RED. I am of the belief that you are our jem, our inside voice that nobody really has. If this turns out to be right...you really are the man. This piece of news does seem like something that will be vetted (one way or another this week)...thanks Bennnn!
 
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