Thinking of returning phone and getting iphone-Android is bad

[Insp_Gadget]

I also have tap the "Display images" to get them to display. I have never seen the "Always Display Images from this Sender" prompt that has been mentioned. I use the stock email.

Is there a way to always make it display?

The option is in the GMail app, not the default HTC Mail app. If you aren't using GMail (or you're using the stock Mail app to read your GMail email), then you're out of luck.

 

[Sopharus]

Please don't get me wrong, it was not my intent to call anyone out, nor did I wish to exonerate any rudeness from the OP. However, I just find myself a bit tired of the response of calling someone an "iPhone sheep" or the implication that someone isn't smart enough to be using Android and it resulted in my rant above.

Many frustrated users will end up here via Google looking for help while venting their frustrations. Some, like the OP, have more familiarity with iOS or other mobile operating systems. I know we tend to be a bit defensive of the products that we love when someone refers to them as being inferior, but shouldn't we welcome the opportunity to share what makes them great with someone who doesn't know yet?

 

[HnLA]

As the original poster, sorry to have caused so much intensity. I have honestly tried to find info over the past 3 weeks. All the videos I found 2 weeks ago were for 2.4 and were not at all helpful for 4.0.(This is my first smart phone, I was using a cheap prepaid and have ipod touch)

While people feel that apple is a closed garden, I see that if you are not using gmail and other google products, Android is more difficult and often as difficult as apple for non-users.

Someone else using 4.0 said they have to hit "images" every time. There are a number of other simple mail things (the size of the text is too wide in landscape usually, body preview only in portrait, etc) that make using the email difficult. I tried 2 other email apps, but they were not up to my expreience is iOS frankly. (The ease in deleting email, etc.) I really do not like having to test 5 apps to find one that might work, just to read emails. That seems silly to me.

I have tested many simple game apps, and other than Sudoky Daily (which is amazing!!) they are not as good as the ones I have been using.I have posted a list of questions previously, and while I appreciate the responses, they were often by people who like doing really complicated things on their phone. I just want to do simple things.

If there is somewhere where I can learn the ins and outs of 4.0 or HTC LTE PLEASE! let me know. Thanks

 

[zjaksn10]

......and having to sync to iTunes just to have music, make ringtones, and add pictures to your iPhone seems easier?

 

[d2globalinc]

yah - dunno - my parents have no problem with their Androids - plenty of info out there and apps to deal with any situation.. so if you haven't figured it out, you don't belong here.

 

[JUNGLEDROID350]

Been using android since the legendary G1 and I tell you what I have used all models of iPhones at the end android win, what sell iPhone is the name not the OS simple


Sent from my EVO LTE and behind

 

[Mercury81]

4.0 is fairly new and there are lots of threads on here in reference to email, music calendar ect. The thing is you have to reference what ever particular app you're using for the proper instruction. Hope you have success in all the info you're seeking. If Apple suits you better than so be it. Good luck ...

from Evo4GLTE on Android Central

 

[Insp_Gadget]

As the original poster, sorry to have caused so much intensity. I have honestly tried to find info over the past 3 weeks. All the videos I found 2 weeks ago were for 2.4 and were not at all helpful for 4.0.(This is my first smart phone, I was using a cheap prepaid and have ipod touch)

While people feel that apple is a closed garden, I see that if you are not using gmail and other google products, Android is more difficult and often as difficult as apple for non-users.

Someone else using 4.0 said they have to hit "images" every time. There are a number of other simple mail things (the size of the text is too wide in landscape usually, body preview only in portrait, etc) that make using the email difficult. I tried 2 other email apps, but they were not up to my expreience is iOS frankly. (The ease in deleting email, etc.) I really do not like having to test 5 apps to find one that might work, just to read emails. That seems silly to me.

I have tested many simple game apps, and other than Sudoky Daily (which is amazing!!) they are not as good as the ones I have been using.I have posted a list of questions previously, and while I appreciate the responses, they were often by people who like doing really complicated things on their phone. I just want to do simple things.

If there is somewhere where I can learn the ins and outs of 4.0 or HTC LTE PLEASE! let me know. Thanks

Some folks love drama, OP. Don't sweat it. (Forgive me, because this is going to be long.)

I realize you've been trying to find a good Android fit for yourself and your tastes. You are correct, regarding some of the experiences with Android. Like any platform, the best experience on a given platform is generally going to involve the platform developer's products. Google puts the most effort into their own stuff. Sometimes, that results in some features being more developed or enhanced on Android for a given Google product (like GMail).

Therefore, email on Android works best with Google's native apps. For email, your best experience is likely to be with using GMail in the native GMail app. GMail on iOS pales by comparison, so don't base the decision to use it on the version on iOS. Sometimes these differences are by design, and sometimes it's just because of a developer's unfamiliarity with a platform.

I'm not going to try to convince you to stay or go. That's a decision you'll have to make on your own. The "experts" on this board can give you pointers, explain options, or answer direct questions (if given enough information).

To address some of your points about the email experience, I don't use DroidMail, so I can't speak to how well that app works. Since I don't know if you are using a GMail account for your email or some POP, IMAP, or Exchange email account, it is hard for me to make a recommendation. However, in the GMail app, it is quite easy to delete mail. If you want to delete a single message (while reading it) just hit the on-screen delete button. If you want to delete multiple messages (from the message list), just press the check-box of each message you want to delete (multi-select) and then hit the on-screen delete button. I don't see how it could be much easier.

HTML-formatted email could definitely be handled better by the GMail app (and most email apps, in general). This is an area where the Palm Pre (webOS) did a better job (regarding wrapping text so that you don't have to scroll sideways to read everything). I don't have an immediate recommendation for you. Personally, it doesn't bother me enough to want to switch. Your tastes are obviously different.

People are creatures of habit. No one likes change. We get used to something and once we do, we don't like to have to learn new ways to do what we've been used to doing all along. For you, it may seem silly trying five different email apps to find the right fit. For others, they enjoy having the choice. Just as there is no one car that meets everyone's needs, there is no one mobile OS or email app that meets everyone's needs.

Generally, people that are attracted to Android want the freedom to do what they please with their phone (without a parent company telling them that they must use a certain program app to do it). Sometimes, that means people have to hunt for the best fit or experience. Other people prefer to be fed a solution that "just works" and not have to think about anything else. Nothing wrong with that.

Personally, I value my individuality and the flexibility that the Android platform gives me to embrace/express it.

 

[kbp08tls]

I am thinking of exchanging for iphone. While its a beautiful screen and I like swype and voice dictation, I have been disappointed with everything else.

I really do not like ICS,and there is little help out there for 4.0. I have not been able to transfer music on the phone without complicated apps that require complicated extras.

I get a lot of emails that "cannot be displayed". (They can be displayed on Maildroid, but Maildroid lacks a lot of other basic features)
I have found the android apps really bad compared to the ones on my ipad touch.There are so many game apps for android, but they are all lacking basic things.

I really do not want to have to hire someone to help me get my phone going. I have had it for 3 weeks and am not impressed by Android at all. Maybe its 4.0 but I like that the iphone is ready to go and easy to use.

OK. Let me try to address your concerns point-by-point rather than voicing what I think of iPhones and Apple in general (it's not pretty).

Getting music on your phone - I'm guessing a lot of your files are in the iTunes format. A lot of people use DoubleTwist to get around that. Once you have your music in the "right" format (i.e. anything but Apple's proprietary format), getting your music on your phone is as easy as plugging it in to your computer, selecting "Disk Drive" if you want it on your SD card or Media Sync if you want it on your internal storage, then clicking and dragging what you want into the folder you want. Fire up the music app of your choice (see what I did there?), and there's your music. It just works. Same goes for movies - I click and drag whatever Blu-Ray rip I want to watch in whatever format I choose to the location of my choice. Fire up the movie app of your choice and enjoy. It just works. No proprietary format, no having to go to the Apple store to buy or "rent" what I want to watch.

Displaying Images in emails - as others have suggested, use the GMail app. Touch show images, then touch always show. Done.

I will grant you your point on quality apps. That is one thing the Apple ecosystem does well. There are a lot of developers that put out apps that seem to be boiled down to work on the lowest common denominator phone, but end up looking unpolished and clunky on high-end phones (like watching SD signals on an HDTV). High quality apps are out there, but it takes some research and trial-and-error to find them. Search Android Central for their editor's picks, search on Play Store for top picks and editor's choice.

Here is a thorough walkthrough of Sense 4.0's features. Also, if you have questions, the people on this board are extremely knowledgeable and "mostly" helpful . As stated before, the responses you get are all in your approach.

Also, to help you in your transition (you will be assimilated, resistance is futile), give this subforum a visit, with special attention to the Apple user's guide to Android

FWIW, my wife has an iPhone 4, and I have my own frustrations with it. I gave it a fair shake, but it's absolutely not for me.

 

[evopg12]

i have no problem putting songs on my Evo its really easy,not so much on iphone you have to go thru a bunch of red tape to do it,an act of congress i might add.ill stick w my Android cause android rules in my opinion.

 

[anon(280955)]

Android is bad. M'kay!?

*edit* iSyncr for Android is awesome at syncing your iTunes library ... over wifi, even.

 

[Mercury81]

Android is bad. M'kay!?

Not according to Mr.Hanky it isn't...:thumbup:

from Evo4GLTE on Android Central

 

[elvis1935]

Iphone is a smart phone for dumb people and android is for all the rest!!

I like android cause it just let's me do more.

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[cloak.n.dagger]

I think the OP's reference to "always having to hit the show images" problem is more related to the Mail app and not the Gmail app. If you use the Mail app to view any email accounts, including gmail, then this is a real issue. It's the way the Mail app was designed by HTC as part of the Sense UI. There is not option (that I have found) to always show images from a particular sender as there is in the Gmail app. So the OP's concern about this is valid if he/she is referring to the HTC Mail app. I didn't see anything in the OP that referred to gmail, so I think many that have responded are making that assumption. The thing to remember is that all of these email clients are apps written by different people, so they all have different functionality by design. This is how you get such a wide variety when comes to Android. You are not "forced" to have it one way, as you are with Apple. This can lead to greater frustration initially, since you may be seeing so many different options and hear others talking about so many different features. However, the frustration that come from the Apple side is not having a selection or another option that may provide you with a feature or style that appeals to you. I get your frustration. I see so many just stepping into the tech world having no experience other than surfing the web at home. It like a long time Windows user having to use Linux for the first time, it sucks! BUT... once you understand why it is the way it is, and get use to using it, there is nothing else like it! Just give it some time, you'll get the hang of it, I promise. This really is a great community of people and when you have a problem the people here are more that willing to help you out (just don't start your thread with "Android sucks" or "Apple rules" because those people are typically trolls looking to start a frenzy).

 

[kbp08tls]

I think the OP's reference to "always having to hit the show images" problem is more related to the Mail app and not the Gmail app. If you use the Mail app to view any email accounts, including gmail, then this is a real issue. It's the way the Mail app was designed by HTC as part of the Sense UI. There is not option (that I have found) to always show images from a particular sender as there is in the Gmail app. So the OP's concern about this is valid if he/she is referring to the HTC Mail app. I didn't see anything in the OP that referred to gmail, so I think many that have responded are making that assumption.

I think most of us got that his images issue was with the native app, and the GMail related responses were in the vein of "use the GMail app" to enable those options. I for one didn't assume he was already using it.

 

[cloak.n.dagger]

I think most of us got that his images issue was with the native app, and the GMail related responses were in the vein of "use the GMail app" to enable those options. I for one didn't assume he was already using it.

But the Gmail app only works for gmail accounts, correct? I don't believe you can sync any other email account with this app. What if the OP only uses yahoo mail or hotmail or whatever else? My point is that the Gmail app is only a solution IF the OP is having an issue with gmail via the Mail app. My assumption is that most people use the Gmail app for their gmail account and the Mail app for everything else.

 

[MexRex]

I really do not want to have to hire someone to help me get my phone going.

Sorry bud but that line tells me you should get an iPhone. I recommend you wait for the iPhone 5. Also, Apple's way of simplifying things keeps me employed at my IT job.

 

[kbp08tls]

But the Gmail app only works for gmail accounts, correct? I don't believe you can sync any other email account with this app. What if the OP only uses yahoo mail or hotmail or whatever else? My point is that the Gmail app is only a solution IF the OP is having an issue with gmail via the Mail app. My assumption is that most people use the Gmail app for their gmail account and the Mail app for everything else.

The brute-force method would be to forward emails from other accounts to your GMail account. There are instructions here for syncing iOS contacts and calendars with GMail. There is also information about that in the Apple users guide to Android I linked earlier.

 

[cloak.n.dagger]

The brute-force method would be to forward emails from other accounts to your GMail account. There are instructions here for syncing iOS contacts and calendars with GMail. There is also information about that in the Apple users guide to Android I linked earlier.

Awesome!! I didn't even think of that as an option! This is why I love the forums. Once people put aside petty differences and egos, solutions become abundant, even for people that have been using the product for years!

 

[kbp08tls]

Awesome!! I didn't even think of that as an option! This is why I love the forums. Once people put aside petty differences and egos, solutions become abundant, even for people that have been using the product for years!

Glad I could help someone, even it wasn't the OP