Hey gang, just wanted to pass on that none other than JoeyKrim has some CM7 running on NS over at XDA and that a MiUi port is also dropping later this week. Oh and Peter Alfonso from Bugless Beast has posted a few stock\AOSP deodexed\odexed and rooted downloads there as well. Feels like a GD OG Droid reunion...im tearing up here!
THIS is why we went Nexus!
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j_grouchy
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Thanks...I thought it was just me.
Sort of off-topic: It's funny...I keep hearing from folks that "oh, this phone is a developer phone and not really meant for the public at large". I even heard that from a sales rep at Sprint when I went in about the radio signal issues. I don't really get that. Sure, there's a learning curve, but it's not really any harder to figure out than my old Palm phone was. Really, the biggest issue for me is just getting OUT of the habits I had with webOS.
I dont understand it all either but I know CM& (cyanogenMod7) is a favorite ROM out there. Good to see it's coming to the Nexus S (hopefully 4G).
Tyndall
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lolI got you. But I don't even want to do it. Lol. It works so great. I did all that on the epic.
The only thing I could see myself doing is the 1.4ghz overclock.
The only thing I could see myself doing is the 1.4ghz overclock.
Ah, I'm kind of jealous of you guys. I remember when I was a total noob and how exciting Android (1.6) was coming from a Blackberry. So basically...
CM7 is the base for so, so, so much. So many tweaked ROM's and Themes come from the Cyanogenmod (CM) base that it is nearly essential for a flashing experience beyond "good," and into the realm of great.
Check out the web page CyanogenMod | Android Community Rom based on Gingerbread for more details and a video walk through. It's amazing. Fast, awesome customization features, and a lot of source that a lot of developers rely on to fix or troubleshoot problematic areas in their ROMs. The only *small* caveat at times, is a hit on battery life, but that really has a lot to do with device and user settings. A lot of the times it do to an overclocked processor. This one is HUGE, trust me.
MiUi is also an amazing ROM if for no other reason than it *feels* like you installed a completely different OS on your device. At first glance a lot of folk feel it is too "iPhoney," but, again trust me, once you start toying around with it you realize it's the real 'ish. It is very smooth, aesthetically beautiful and reworks pretty much every system app. And we're not talking a skin here with an added function or two, were talking...a major overhaul. You have to use MiUi at least for a week if you own this device just to see the potential of free range Android and why it is such a joy to own one. Oh, did I mention when I had this flashed on my EVO 4G I could sip battery life to the tune of almost two days with the ROM. Further evidence is provided for the awesomeness that is Stock Android in the fact that, on the EVO for example, development has been going on for quite sometime but things like 4G are still broke. On Nexus S 4G, these things shouldn't be a problem. Did I mention it is update weekly?
MIUI, Redefining Android – MIUI Android Developers
As for Mr. Alfonso, if you know anyone who has or had an original (OG) Motorola Droid and they were a ROM flasher/user, just mention Bugless Beast and watch them gleam. Pete usually runs things on the appearance side, pretty close to stock, but his optimizations and Kernels that worked with them are just...top shelf. More importantly, he is professional grade. What I mean by that is, if you ever flashed some of these wonky neon colored abominations called ROMs with broken framework and force close loops, you understand the value of a professional developer. Actually all of these people/teams are professional grade developers...meaning you could see their work on a production unit and not think twice about it's quality. Peter Alfonso hasn't really verbally stated committing to ROM work for the Nexus S as he is very busy...but hey, he has one, and he has a passion, so I think the powers to be will call him.
Peter Alfonso
These guys are pillars, titans...legends and hero's in the Android Kitchen. Once you have owned this platform for some time, and then you start to actually own it, you will come back to this post and realize you should have, to quote an XDA forum member/developer, "pee'd a little."
This is good guys. Enjoy your new platform and if I can be of any assistance I will try the best I can to help.
...oh yeah, and if you like the work these cat's do, buy them a beer.
CM7 is the base for so, so, so much. So many tweaked ROM's and Themes come from the Cyanogenmod (CM) base that it is nearly essential for a flashing experience beyond "good," and into the realm of great.
Check out the web page CyanogenMod | Android Community Rom based on Gingerbread for more details and a video walk through. It's amazing. Fast, awesome customization features, and a lot of source that a lot of developers rely on to fix or troubleshoot problematic areas in their ROMs. The only *small* caveat at times, is a hit on battery life, but that really has a lot to do with device and user settings. A lot of the times it do to an overclocked processor. This one is HUGE, trust me.
MiUi is also an amazing ROM if for no other reason than it *feels* like you installed a completely different OS on your device. At first glance a lot of folk feel it is too "iPhoney," but, again trust me, once you start toying around with it you realize it's the real 'ish. It is very smooth, aesthetically beautiful and reworks pretty much every system app. And we're not talking a skin here with an added function or two, were talking...a major overhaul. You have to use MiUi at least for a week if you own this device just to see the potential of free range Android and why it is such a joy to own one. Oh, did I mention when I had this flashed on my EVO 4G I could sip battery life to the tune of almost two days with the ROM. Further evidence is provided for the awesomeness that is Stock Android in the fact that, on the EVO for example, development has been going on for quite sometime but things like 4G are still broke. On Nexus S 4G, these things shouldn't be a problem. Did I mention it is update weekly?
MIUI, Redefining Android – MIUI Android Developers
As for Mr. Alfonso, if you know anyone who has or had an original (OG) Motorola Droid and they were a ROM flasher/user, just mention Bugless Beast and watch them gleam. Pete usually runs things on the appearance side, pretty close to stock, but his optimizations and Kernels that worked with them are just...top shelf. More importantly, he is professional grade. What I mean by that is, if you ever flashed some of these wonky neon colored abominations called ROMs with broken framework and force close loops, you understand the value of a professional developer. Actually all of these people/teams are professional grade developers...meaning you could see their work on a production unit and not think twice about it's quality. Peter Alfonso hasn't really verbally stated committing to ROM work for the Nexus S as he is very busy...but hey, he has one, and he has a passion, so I think the powers to be will call him.
Peter Alfonso
These guys are pillars, titans...legends and hero's in the Android Kitchen. Once you have owned this platform for some time, and then you start to actually own it, you will come back to this post and realize you should have, to quote an XDA forum member/developer, "pee'd a little."
This is good guys. Enjoy your new platform and if I can be of any assistance I will try the best I can to help.
...oh yeah, and if you like the work these cat's do, buy them a beer.
I hear you BlackHawk, but I have come to the realization that when I say I'm not going to flash again, it's like when a person with a hangover says their not going to drink again...
What can I say, I'm a junky. My gTab is running a pretty damn solid Honeycomb ROM, my Nook Color is on CM Nightlies, my GF's Epic is running that Stock Epic Odin for EC05 with the CIQ ripped out and EXT4, etc...I just can't stop. So I wanted to wait for EVO 3D, but in my heart of hearts, I know my favorite Android devices are these Vanilla guys...so NS it was and is.
...Sprint better fix this damn signal issue. I DO NOT want to have to return this device!
Lol! I know what you mean. By next month ill probably be bored and try it. Haha.
The epic deodexed roms were awesome. Made the phone bareable.
I'm sure it will be fixes soon. Seems like every phone on launch out of the box has some sort of signal issues.
I'm only having wifi issues. Haven't had a chance to use 4g yet and see.
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That is the best news I have heard in a while. The OG droid spoiled me with rom support.
we got nemith as a cm maintainer 
some of yall might recognize him from the nook color. i have it on good authority hes pretty damn good 
some of yall might recognize him from the nook color. i have it on good authority hes pretty damn good Im completely happy with stock android. Best thing ill do is a new kernal for overclocking. I've never been a theme'r so unless it brings magic pixy dust with it and billions of dollars that print out of the phone. I will be unlikly to install it myself.
Yeah. . .
Starting to understand the power (of the dark side). . . Having left my Pre for this NS4G!!!
When y'all say plain vanilla Android, I think "what? How is this that bad?" This does so much more than WebOS, why would I do anything to it???
But reading all these posts, I'm wondering why wouldn't I? But it's a little overload as I'm trying to understand all the terms you guys use. . . I don't even know what a kernal is!
What it seems like to me, and some one PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong because I probably am, is that some one takes the foundation and builds a different OS on top of it vs the 'stock' OS???
At which point, I wonder why would I use that new OS when there is very little to back it should there be a problem, vs if I have an issue with the stock OS, Google takes care of the issue. That's my fear about changing anything.
Starting to understand the power (of the dark side). . . Having left my Pre for this NS4G!!!
When y'all say plain vanilla Android, I think "what? How is this that bad?" This does so much more than WebOS, why would I do anything to it???
But reading all these posts, I'm wondering why wouldn't I? But it's a little overload as I'm trying to understand all the terms you guys use. . . I don't even know what a kernal is!
What it seems like to me, and some one PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong because I probably am, is that some one takes the foundation and builds a different OS on top of it vs the 'stock' OS???
At which point, I wonder why would I use that new OS when there is very little to back it should there be a problem, vs if I have an issue with the stock OS, Google takes care of the issue. That's my fear about changing anything.
stock android is great, as opposed to all the skins and themes and crap loaded on by oem's (sense, touchwiz, motoblur). and yes google will "fix" the issues but not for a bit.. whereas cm is updated daily with new stuff, prime example the pull down toggles are taken from touchwiz and you wont find that on stock.
a kernal is a piece of corn..
Stock (or vanilla as we call it) is the original unadulterated ROM that the Android team at Google produces... what comes running on the NS4G out-of-box. This is Android in it's purest form, they way Google designed it, nothing more, nothing less. You can also get stock Android (or close to it) on other phones besides the Nexus, but is only the Nexus that receives straight from Google any and all OS updates - earlier than anyone else.
When you purchase another Android based (non-Google) phone, most manufacturers will alter the original ROM to add a skin (i.e. Sense on HTC, Touchwiz on Samsung or Motoblur on Motorola) that changes the looks and general behavior of the OS as you see it. They usually tweak basic apps to add features, looks or change functionality to suit a particular purpose or include their custom ones for email, SMS, contacts and others. They also add a number of apps built on the ROM itself (some from the OEM others from the carrier) which we affectionately call bloatware. However, these versions of the original Android, tweaked as they may be, are fully compatible with most (if not all) Android apps so you really don't miss on anything. This diversity of phones with their custom OEM tweaked ROMs is what we complain in terms of Android fragmentation - you have a slightly different experience of what Android is depending on which of this handsets you use.
Think of custom ROMs as stock Android on steroids. These are non-sanctioned products from amazing dedicated teams of developers that elevate Android OS to a new level of functionality.This custom ROMs ARE Android but the developers tweak it to fix some of the known issues/bugs, remove bloatware and OEM skins, allow more user control over system functions and add some functionality missing from stock Android.These ROM's, as their OEM counterparts, are compatible with most (if not all) available Android apps out there and allow you to do all you can do with stock Android and then some, only you will usually do it faster and better. There are some bugs and issues to contend with on some of them as you might expect so you need to do your homework before you jump into it. The good thing is that even if you load a custom ROM, most times you can go back to your original ROM image if you decide this is not for you.
One distinct advantage of custom ROM's is that you can have more direct access to the developer teams to request bug fixes and enhancements so they get updated A LOT more frequently than the official OS from Google. Also, as the rest of the Android community is impatiently waiting to get pulled into Gingerbread through the official upgrade route, the users of custom ROMs on almost every Android device out there, had enjoyed Gingerbread on their phones way before you got your Nexus. Chances are good they will run Ice Cream Sandwich (the next big Android OS update coming later this year) on their devices via custom ROMs before the Nexus gets it officially. In addition, for people with legacy phones (those already orphaned by the manufactures and EOL'd by the carriers) the only path left for OS upgrades is the use of custom ROM's.
Hope this helps you understand a little better what is being discussed here.
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Can any Android phone be stripped of its skin and bloatware through custom ROM's and become a pure vanilla phone?
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Yeah pretty much. Check out the Cyanogenmod project. I'm running one of the latest nightly builds of that ROM on my EVO which is gingerbread 2.3.4 and it is based on AOSP (Android Open Source Project). So it is pretty much vanilla android with some additonal settings built in by the Cyanogenmod team.
These are the devices it can be installed on:
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/devices
@ shabbypenguin lmao "a kernel is a piece of corn "
I was looking over the developments on XDA a little while ago, and nemith is involved, and it looks as if pftmedic is coming over. That's huge. I guess this means there is a chance we will see some ACS? If they sign on...wow.
..btw shabbypenguin, do I recognize you from the Epic forum, or the EVO 4G...yet something tells me Incredible, lol.
@AndroidOne thanks for making sure I'm not the only florid one here! lol
" I was looking over the developments on XDA a little while ago, and nemith is involved, and it looks as if pftmedic is coming over. That's huge. I guess this means there is a chance we will see some ACS? If they sign on...wow.
..btw shabbypenguin, do I recognize you from the Epic forum, or the EVO 4G...yet something tells me Incredible, lol.
@AndroidOne thanks for making sure I'm not the only florid one here! lol
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