Thought this was funny and interesting.

[badbrad17]

He did not hold the iPhone back, do you REALISE what phones were like back in 2007? bricks. the iPhone was just incredible(and still is) and so what about perfection? I FREAKING WANT PERFECTION, not the unpolished piece of **** Android 2.xxx, and every "small" thing added up. but it seems like logic and things don't work here.

After all your sig is " Android Evangelist"

The iphone was amazing to some degree but it also wasn't as revolutionary as it was pitched. The benefit of Apple's perfectionist approach is also its curse. Technology moves too fast. This was why the NeXT computers failed. Steve was busy obsessing over small details while Microsoft was busy pushing out computers with new things. That is why I said Pixar did better. He let the people do their jobs and get things released. He learned a lot after NeXT failed an I think realized that being perfect doesn't always mean successful. You can get left in the dust. Especially when you have 5 other massive companies constantly doing new things. So many of the things we take for granted with Android get so much praise when they are added to an ios device. This is just marketing crap. If you want that experience then buy an iPhone. For many of us we are willing to take a few bumps in the road in the name of innovation. It's part of a journey that Jobs was unfortunately not willing to be part of. I think had he not been so ridiculously fussy over details that didn't matter Apple would own everything. But he made time his enemy too often.

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[badbrad17]

Most features are useless, therefore gimmicky, Siri is a gimmick, S voice is a gimmick but Google now sure as **** isn't.
The only company innovating is google.

I wouldn't say Siri or S voice are gimmicks. They may not be what Google Now is, but they also helped to push the envelope of basic voice command technology to make Google Now a reality. This is what I think innovation is. The pioneers start something and the rest of the company's make it even better. Sony has been doing this for decades.

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[anon5664829]

I'm not denying that, but there were also many other factors. Bill Gates investment for one. But you could also say that Steve was also the reason for so many failures. He was a very interesting person to say the least. Do I respect him? Absolutely not. He was a liar and a two faced self centered ego maniac who treated his friends and family like garbage. And his employees even worse. Do I admire his tenacity and persistent nature? Definitely. He was able to get people to do things that very few people could. Maybe we wouldn't be where we are if it wasn't for his extreme nature, but that type of behavior does come at a cost. Many slave drivers built bridges and castles in the past using a physical whip. Steve used his tongue as a whip. I would be willing to bet that for every person that knew him and spoke his praises there were 100 more that hated his guts. For me the legacy you leave can't only be based on your input in technology.

Many people have done great things in business without destroying people in the process.

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He wasn't always an a hole, besides without Steve jobs there is no freaking way we would have what we have in terms of tech he truly did something only few can do.

 

[anon5664829]

The iphone was amazing to some degree but it also wasn't as revolutionary as it was pitched. The benefit of Apple's perfectionist approach is also its curse. Technology moves too fast. This was why the NeXT computers failed. Steve was busy obsessing over small details while Microsoft was busy pushing out computers with new things. That is why I said Pixar did better. He let the people do their jobs and get things released. He learned a lot after NeXT failed an I think realized that being perfect doesn't always mean successful. You can get left in the dust. Especially when you have 5 other massive companies constantly doing new things. So many of the things we take for granted with Android get so much praise when they are added to an ios device. This is just marketing crap. If you want that experience then buy an iPhone. For many of us we are willing to take a few bumps in the road in the name of innovation. It's part of a journey that Jobs was unfortunately not willing to be part of. I think had he not been so ridiculously fussy over details that didn't matter Apple would own everything. But he made time his enemy too often.

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I have nexus 4. I am amazed at how good it is it it is near perfect. Would I get the next iPhone? Absolutely. Would I get the next Nexus? **** yes.
See Android is the testing ground for new ideas and such, Apple perfects features and adds some of there own( do not disturb) and I like this approach. Oh and our design teacher also pushes us to make our creations better looking/feeling/ easier to use etc, don't think Steve was the only one that that pushed for perfection.

 

[anon5664829]

I wouldn't say Siri or S voice are gimmicks. They may not be what Google Now is, but they also helped to push the envelope of basic voice command technology to make Google Now a reality. This is what I think innovation is. The pioneers start something and the rest of the company's make it even better. Sony has been doing this for decades.

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So you admit Apple had done something to help tech?

 

[return_0]

He wasn't always an a hole, besides without Steve jobs there is no freaking way we would have what we have in terms of tech he truly did something only few can do.

He was. Read the book or pretty much any other biography about him.

 

[return_0]

So you admit Apple had done something to help tech?

I obviously am not the person you're addressing the question to, but by all means yes. I think the question is how much they innovated or revolutionized the industry.

 

[Euan Tan]

that is funny and ironc

 

[anon5664829]

that is funny and ironc

What?

 

[return_0]

What?

Probably referring to the OP.

 

[badbrad17]

He wasn't always an a hole, besides without Steve jobs there is no freaking way we would have what we have in terms of tech he truly did something only few can do.

That is speculation X 100.

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[badbrad17]

So you admit Apple had done something to help tech?

Absolutely. 100%.

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[badbrad17]

He wasn't always an a hole, besides without Steve jobs there is no freaking way we would have what we have in terms of tech he truly did something only few can do.

Ya, he was always an a hole. You could tell hey was self serving even when he was young.

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[anon5664829]

Absolutely. 100%.

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Thank god you are not like the others which refuse to believe Apple has helped tech.

 

[return_0]

Thank god you are not like the others which refuse to believe Apple has helped tech.

I think even the most devoted Android fanboy would agree that Apple has contributed to tech at least a little.

 

[anon5664829]

I think even the most devoted Android fanboy would agree that Apple has contributed to tech at least a little.

Then you haven't met my friend. He says google has done everything and said that android came before iOS

 

[return_0]

Then you haven't met my friend. He says google has done everything and said that android came before iOS

Well, Android did come before iOS (founded in 2003)? but Apple made products that made smartphones and tablets popular, leading the way for Android to lead.
So pretty much IBM/Blackberry/Symbian/those guys pioneered smartphones and created the industry. Apple made smartphones (more) popular. Android phones and Google made smartphones really good.

 

[xlDeMoNiClx]

Most features are useless, therefore gimmicky, Siri is a gimmick, S voice is a gimmick but Google now sure as **** isn't.
The only company innovating is google.

Useless to you, but not useless to someone else. Therefore they must not be gimmicks. There's the flaw in your logic.

This is from me, on my EVO 3D.

 

[anon5664829]

Well, Android did come before iOS (founded in 2003)? but Apple made products that made smartphones and tablets popular, leading the way for Android to lead.
So pretty much IBM/Blackberry/Symbian/those guys pioneered smartphones and created the industry. Apple made smartphones (more) popular. Android phones and Google made smartphones really good.

I was talking about touch screen phones, and android came after iOS I am certain.(at least the touch version)

 

[badbrad17]

Thank god you are not like the others which refuse to believe Apple has helped tech.

those people are naive and lacking common sense.

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