Thoughts about Nexus 1

[mobilemedic20]

Right now I'm leaning heavily toward getting the N1 when it's released. I really like the Droid, but 1. I don't play games on my phone, 2. I hardly ever use the keyboard (frankly, I despise the physical keyboard, even after giving it a fair shake - I decided to work on my touchscreen keyboard skills), and 3. I like the form factor of the N1 better. If I don't want the keyboard anyway, I'd rather have a solid phone than a slider - just less chance of something breaking. Also, I believe the N1 will be more relevant for longer, and like someone noted, will get updates more quickly. That said, if battery life is that much of an issue, I may have to reconsider, as that's pretty important to me.

Either way, I'll be returning my Droid in a couple weeks and then I'll make my decision when the N1 comes out.

 

[briankeith513]

I prefer the form factor of the Nexus One, and I've heard that, due to the snapdragon processor, the Nexus One is much faster than the Droid. Unfortunately, I won't have an upgrade to use to get the Nexus One.

 

[WarER4X]

I was planning on getting the N1, until VZW sweetened the deal and gave me an early upgrade in conjunction with their BOGO offer they have going for smartphones. So, my wife and I got a Droid and I'm glad I did. A couple things I'm not crazy about with the N1, based on current info, are (1) I would have to buy it directly from Google and I wouldn't get customer support from VZW (especially if I have to make a warranty return) and (2) my experience with the trackball on the BB 8830 has made me a bit reluctant to have another trackball. I used to have to dismantle the trackball on my 8830 about once every 2 months to clean it out so it would work again. I don't know if that would be the case for the N1 (probably wouldn't have to do it as often because the trackball would be used only a little), but it was something I considered.

Really, the only think I liked about the N1 over the Droid was Android 2.1 and the app space (512 MB vs 256 MB). App space on my BB Storm was always an issue (especially because of the memory leaks that always used up the same space). Then I found out just how many Android apps can fit into that 256 MB of space and I was OK with that. Of course, the OS version difference will be remedied soon.

-SR-

PS: I enjoy opening and closing the slider on my Droid too much to have an N1 now. Sometimes, I sit around just open and close the Droid over and over. I love that *snick* sound it makes. It drives my wife crazy.

 

[GenericMessage]

PS: I enjoy opening and closing the slider on my Droid too much to have an N1 now. Sometimes, I sit around just open and close the Droid over and over. I love that *snick* sound it makes. It drives my wife crazy.

Mine hates it too!

But I LOVE IT.

 

[dancingcrab]

Really, the only think I liked about the N1 over the Droid was Android 2.1 and the app space (512 MB vs 256 MB). App space on my BB Storm was always an issue (especially because of the memory leaks that always used up the same space). Then I found out just how many Android apps can fit into that 256 MB of space and I was OK with that. Of course, the OS version difference will be remedied soon.

You make a good point about the memory. This is far more persuassive an argument to get an N1 over Droid than CPU cycles.

 

[Dapke36]

You make a good point about the memory. This is far more persuassive an argument to get an N1 over Droid than CPU cycles.

Haha for some people. I, personally, find greater stock in a fast CPU than anything. But i'm more strange than most.

 

[dancingcrab]

Haha for some people. I, personally, find greater stock in a fast CPU than anything. But i'm more strange than most.

A faster clock is obviously great, but we've previously covered that the Droid packs a GPU that helps make up lost ground on that front. App memory is more likely to have a direct impact on most everyday users.

If a device is efficiently designed to run at 550MHz, it shouldn't matter if another device bearing a very similar feature set runs at 1GHz. Especially as the former can be OC'd and packs a dedicated OpenGL processor.

 

[Music Ian]

As much as I hate to say it (I love Google), the DROID is definitely the better device, aside from app storage and RAM. I can't post the link, but I just saw an insane video testing the droid's and nexus one's multitouch. The DROID is fine, but the Nexus One has the two points mixing up and inverting all over the place, both with the same program. I never thought something like that would happen to the N1, it's ruined in my eyes, I really hope it's some software issue and they can fix it, or at least that HTC gets the hardware right in the Desire..

 

[Jeremy]

As much as I hate to say it (I love Google), the DROID is definitely the better device, aside from app storage and RAM. I can't post the link, but I just saw an insane video testing the droid's and nexus one's multitouch. The DROID is fine, but the Nexus One has the two points mixing up and inverting all over the place, both with the same program. I never thought something like that would happen to the N1, it's ruined in my eyes, I really hope it's some software issue and they can fix it, or at least that HTC gets the hardware right in the Desire..

The touch screen is fine... I own a iPhone 3GS, Droid, and Nexus. Again, it's fine.

 

[GenericMessage]

Let alone that AMOLED display.

Where you have major worries of burn in. And over-saturation of colours!
Real OLED is far too expensive to put into such a device, so they cut costs and make cheap AMOLEDs. Its too bad really!


And clock speed means almost nothing. Yeah, I see side by sides with the N1 and Droid and the N1 is like 1/500th faster, but then other tests show the Droid is faster. People just say "well the snapdragon is the best" because they think 1ghz is the bee's knee's and a absolute. Sadly, it isn't. Clock speed in this day and age means almost nothing.

And the soft keys? Horrid! Extremely unresponsive!
And even though not many yet have complained of trackball issues, there will be some. Scum will build up on it and cover the sensors in the inside making it unresponsive in time. Then you'll have to take it apart and clean it, or possibly even have to get a new one.

The N1 is awesome, but it isn't quite there yet.

 

[Jeremy]

Let alone that AMOLED display.

Where you have major worries of burn in. And over-saturation of colours!
Real OLED is far too expensive to put into such a device, so they cut costs and make cheap AMOLEDs. Its too bad really!


And clock speed means almost nothing. Yeah, I see side by sides with the N1 and Droid and the N1 is like 1/500th faster, but then other tests show the Droid is faster. People just say "well the snapdragon is the best" because they think 1ghz is the bee's knee's and a absolute. Sadly, it isn't. Clock speed in this day and age means almost nothing.

And the soft keys? Horrid! Extremely unresponsive!
And even though not many yet have complained of trackball issues, there will be some. Scum will build up on it and cover the sensors in the inside making it unresponsive in time. Then you'll have to take it apart and clean it, or possibly even have to get a new one.

The N1 is awesome, but it isn't quite there yet.

No problems with my screen or soft keys. Also keep in mind the soft keys are controlled by the software. Evident in some ROMs floating around that have made adjustments to them. Work fine.

 

[GenericMessage]

No problems with my screen or soft keys. Also keep in mind the soft keys are controlled by the software. Evident in some ROMs floating around that have made adjustments to them. Work fine.

I know you're very quick to defend your N1, and thats fine


But my N1 and lots of other people have issues with the color and soft keys.
And soft keys are partially hardware..........

 

[Jeremy]

I know you're very quick to defend your N1, and thats fine


But my N1 and lots of other people have issues with the color and soft keys.
And soft keys are partially hardware..........

If it sucked I'd tell you. If it's hardware than how does a tweak in the software fix it?

 

[GenericMessage]

If it sucked I'd tell you. If it's hardware than how does a tweak in the software fix it?

I guess you over-looked the "partially" part of my statement, thats fine.

But doesn't it bother you that you have to root your phone for basic functions like buttons to start working properly?


Anywho, I don't need to argue my point. I've stated what many other N1 owners have issues with, and if you really don't have those problems, THATS AWESOME!

 

[Jeremy]

I guess you over-looked the "partially" part of my statement, thats fine.

But doesn't it bother you that you have to root your phone for basic functions like buttons to start working properly?


Anywho, I don't need to argue my point. I've stated what many other N1 owners have issues with, and if you really don't have those problems, THATS AWESOME!

I didn't root my phone because of a button issue. I never had a button issue. If I did you would have heard me complain about it previously.

 

[GenericMessage]

I didn't root my phone because of a button issue. I never had a button issue. If I did you would have heard me complain about it previously.

As I said before, I am glad you're one of the few without such issues.

 

[_JKK_]

Perhaps he isn't one of the few; typically, users with problems are more vocal than users without. Could it be that most users with Nexus One have no problem, yet those that do make a big deal?

Don't get me wrong, you have every right to want a device that you bought to work perfectly (and it should; HTC/Google should fix it), but perhaps you aren't in the majority.

 

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From what I read, the N1 does have a GPU, they just chose to put it on the same silicon as the CPU, to offer a complete package (inlcuding 720P vid capability on-chip, GSM function). They claim it allows less power consumption, which makes sense, and allows for smaller packaging. The RISC architecture lends itself to this kind of thing; on computers they used to have separate math co-processors (separate boards) in the first generation machines, now, the processor design incorporates this function. I'd expect it will sell very well for Qualcomm as it simplifies packaging for any design/manufacturing house.
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[edoublediz]

Let alone that AMOLED display.

Where you have major worries of burn in. And over-saturation of colours!
Real OLED is far too expensive to put into such a device, so they cut costs and make cheap AMOLEDs. Its too bad really!


And clock speed means almost nothing. Yeah, I see side by sides with the N1 and Droid and the N1 is like 1/500th faster, but then other tests show the Droid is faster. People just say "well the snapdragon is the best" because they think 1ghz is the bee's knee's and a absolute. Sadly, it isn't. Clock speed in this day and age means almost nothing.

And the soft keys? Horrid! Extremely unresponsive!
And even though not many yet have complained of trackball issues, there will be some. Scum will build up on it and cover the sensors in the inside making it unresponsive in time. Then you'll have to take it apart and clean it, or possibly even have to get a new one.

The N1 is awesome, but it isn't quite there yet.

what you talkin bout willis? slightly faster? this video shows a little more than slightly faster rendering google earth. check it out. YouTube - AndroidHD's Channel

 

[dancingcrab]

From what I read, the N1 does have a GPU, they just chose to put it on the same silicon as the CPU, to offer a complete package (inlcuding 720P vid capability on-chip, GSM function). They claim it allows less power consumption, which makes sense, and allows for smaller packaging. The RISC architecture lends itself to this kind of thing; on computers they used to have separate math co-processors (separate boards) in the first generation machines, now, the processor design incorporates this function. I'd expect it will sell very well for Qualcomm as it simplifies packaging for any design/manufacturing house.
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Truth. Touche! Was reading this. Appears the N1 is packing a somewhat unoptimised GPU. At least there is a possible future for it, even if it's a bit ropey right now.