Thoughts after using Bionic plus pictures

[Droid800]

Yet if the Bionic shows great scores then everyone gets a hard on and posts them all over the internet. Am I right? My point is - you can't say benchmarks aren't important, because if they weren't then we wouldn't be discussing them in the first place would we? If real world performance is the most important then why are benchmark test posts flooded all over the Android blogosphere.

Because idiot bloggers post them without knowing what they're talking about. Any site or blog worth their salt that references them will include a disclaimer that they're synthetic benchmarks that don't reflect real world performance and can be cheated. Most don't even bother talking about them at all, since the ability to cheat them is well known.

Benchmarks comparing two different phones don't mean anything. Its an apples oranges situation. (Like comparing the same car with two different engines and transmission) you cannot compare a Bionics quadrant to a GS2 because the numbers aren't comparable.

I'm convinced that those that throw out the 'but the GS2 got a 3,100' are trying far too hard to compensate for something...

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[theGman911]

Well, getting back on topic....

I know this is minor but can you please tell me how the "copy/paste" works in the browser? Is it the two little indicators that you slide to the beginning and the end of the text to be copied or is it the dreadful Motorola "slide ur far finger over text that you can not see anymore due to said fat finger" method?

Thanks! This was the only good thing going from a dx to the thunderbolt. Better copy/paste.

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[theGman911]

Oh, and what about the sound?? Primarily YouTube videos.. usually really low on most phone including my thunderbolt.


Oh and here's some shots of the notification lights location for all the people asking.. top right corner.

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[lilpengwin]

one thing that will decide whether i get the bionic or not is if it has the capability to do 3g and voice simultaneously. does anyone know if it can or not?

 

[grn4frk]

one thing that will decide whether i get the bionic or not is if it has the capability to do 3g and voice simultaneously. does anyone know if it can or not?

It cannot. It can on LTE as all LTE phones can but 3g/data at the same time is still only on the TB.

 

[corymcnutt]

one thing that will decide whether i get the bionic or not is if it has the capability to do 3g and voice simultaneously. does anyone know if it can or not?

YES, as long as you live in 4G LTE area...the data travels over 4G and voice over 3G...It CANNOT do both over just a 3G network, like the TB can.

 

[lilpengwin]

YES, as long as you live in 4G LTE area...the data travels over 4G and voice over 3G...It CANNOT do both over just a 3G network, like the TB can.

thanks, thats what i needed. I hope the vigor will be able to do what the TB can do. I have my 4G turned off the majority of the time

 

[tdizzel]

CK is sorely missed

Maybe by you...not by most. People who are interested in the Bionic and don't care to constantly hear how it is inferior to a phone that ended up not even existing don't miss him at all.
if you miss him so much you can move on to whatever forum he is on now and hear more anti-pentile, anti-webtop, GS2 is the godphone posts he is surely annoying others with.
There are reasons the guy was banned.

 

[GBH2]

Yet if the Bionic shows great scores then everyone gets a hard on and posts them all over the internet. Am I right? My point is - you can't say benchmarks aren't important, because if they weren't then we wouldn't be discussing them in the first place would we? If real world performance is the most important then why are benchmark test posts flooded all over the Android blogosphere.

I know it seems that way to you but that is not correct. If you truly want to learn more about what benchmarks test and mean and learn something about SoC architecture you should look to a True technical site like Anandtech and not believe everything you see at Android News and Fan sites. Things of extreme importance that do not get discussed at fan sites often are SoC revisions such as Cortex A8, A9, A15; memory pipeline and bandwidth; drivers for the GPU; SoC support for things like Neon code, etc.

We are really not just getting on your case and "defending Bionic" - we just don't know enough yet to be making blanket statements like "GS2 is better than Bionic", it might be true or it might not be, but not just because Quadrant says so.

 

[brownhornet]

Pentile... oh well that kills it for me.

 

[mjforte]

Pentile... oh well that kills it for me.

Have you actually looked at a pentile screen with your own eyes in person, let alone the Bionic's actual screen? I would reserve judgement til then.

 

[recDNA]

actually pentile isn't what causes the ghosting and I have no idea what you mean by blurry its qHD do the text is fairly crisp on the dx2 and d3 I tried, the pixelation is just a funny thing that happens on large areas of solid colors mostly green other then that there isn't any. So they possibly could have kept pentile and completely fixed that. I know for me I would be perfectly happy with the pentile screen the battery life and brightness are great, but the ghosting is god awful.

Are you saying the bionic has ghosting?

 

[roberte1342]

Have you actually looked at a pentile screen with your own eyes in person, let alone the Bionic's actual screen? I would reserve judgement til then.

The test I am waiting to do myself is open the same website on my X and the Bionic side by side and compare. If I can read the text the same or better than the X then I am going to get it.
So far every pentile screen has failed miserably in this comparison. If you don't do a lot of reading on your phone then it isn't going to matter and shouldn't be too concerned about it.

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[vlkers7171]

Am I the only one who doesnt hate the pentile? Yes, the SGII phones have better saturation, but I think sometimes the saturation isn't accurate and it just over contrasts everything. Being a photographer/designer I hate colors that are so saturated its fake.

I looked at a D3 at the store yesterday and it wasnt all that bad. Not as perfect as some other screens out there..but I have a tablet for most of my long view sessions of stuff. The only thing I didnt like is the banding that occurs on some gradients. But overall I enjoy motorola's hardware way better than samsungs. Samsung products and their plastic parts, while light, feel cheap to me.

 

[saltysteve]

Since I only still have Droid 1 can someone please tell me how my screen compares to the d3 and or X?
That might give me a good idea of what to expect from the bionic.
Thanks!

I was concerned mainly about ghosting, I guess


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[irl Panda]

Since I only still have Droid 1 can someone please tell me how my screen compares to the d3 and or X?
That might give me a good idea of what to expect from the bionic.
Thanks!

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No one is going to be able to describe it well enough for you to compare. Just go up to Verizon and ask if you can compare the screens. Not everyone sees the pixelation. It's something you have to see for yourself.

 

[saltysteve]

No one is going to be able to describe it well enough for you to compare. Just go up to Verizon and ask if you can compare the screens. Not everyone sees the pixelation. It's something you have to see for yourself.

So are you saying the newer phones might have a worse screen?


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[ChevyNovaLN]

So are you saying the newer phones might have a worse screen?


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I think he's saying what most of us are saying. Worse compared to ??? What may make you think one screen is better than the other may be the opposite for someone else. Its personal opinion and only you can decide if they're better/worse, to you.

 

[saltysteve]

I think he's saying what most of us are saying. Worse compared to ??? What may make you think one screen is better than the other may be the opposite for someone else. Its personal opinion and only you can decide if they're better/worse, to you.

Compared to my D1.

If you can see ghosts or pixels, it'd be WORSE than a 2 year old phone, IMO.

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[irl Panda]

So are you saying the newer phones might have a worse screen?


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They aren't worse, they are different. To me, the Samsung samoled screens are oversaturated to the extent that everything looks a bit cartoonish. However, for movies and games, this is a good thing. With Pentile, pixelation occurs in solid colors (mostly green). I believe Pentile screens have more realistic colors, which to me, looks amazing. The screen is definitely clear and crisp, don't let the pixelation talk lead you to believe otherwise. You are also looking at having a brighter screen, one that you can actually see in direct sunlight, and more power efficient than other screens. Yes, at this resolution, there are slight flaws. However, once resolutions get higher, we should see that the pixelation is negligible.

Some people can't get over the flaws, and I don't blame them. They are going to be dealing with their next device for 2 years, so they should definitely get something they are completely satisfied with. Others can't see the pixelation at all. Everyone is going to have a unique opinion.