"Too expensive" vs Out of stock

[PhiPsi32]

I'm sure the allocations were made on the conservative side. Google doesn't have to sell that many handsets their first go out of the gate.

 

[Markxmlx]

I find it hilarious that many people are complaining about the cost of the phone, yet the most expensive configurations are completely sold out. Hmmm....

This forum isn't an accurate representation of the market and opinion on average so it's not surprising. I personally can't spend this kind of money but if I could I certainly would. I think it looks great.

 

[Jeremy8000]

I'm sure the allocations were made on the conservative side. Google doesn't have to sell that many handsets their first go out of the gate.

That, and if there were late modifications made to the final design it's possible some of the components might not have been available in sufficient quantity to provide a large number of handsets for initial release.

I remember when the N6 came out, they staggered quantities being made available through the Play Store, with additional salable inventory released on a specific day of the week (was it Tuesdays?). I elected not to update to the N6p, but does anyone recall if Google did something similar there, and thereby if we should expect a comparable strategy with the Pixels as they become out of stock?

 

[MrSlippery519]

They said they are hoping to sell between 3-4 million Pixel's by the end of 2016, but as others have mentioned we have no way of knowing how many 128GB models were even available for pre-order. So its really hard to tell what that out of stock means, did they have 1000 of them available for pre-order or 1 million??

 

[N4Newbie]

That, and if there were late modifications made to the final design it's possible some of the components might not have been available in sufficient quantity to provide a large number of handsets for initial release.

I remember when the N6 came out, they staggered quantities being made available through the Play Store, with additional salable inventory released on a specific day of the week (was it Tuesdays?). I elected not to update to the N6p, but does anyone recall if Google did something similar there, and thereby if we should expect a comparable strategy with the Pixels as they become out of stock?

The 6P release was, excuse me for saying so, a typical Google disaster. Many of us that pre-ordered within minutes or hours of go-live had our devices shipped days or even weeks *after* those that ordered weeks or more after go-live. Let me give you my own example: I ordered on go-live day, 9/30/15 and received that device on 11/06/15. Pissed because my initial order hadn't shipped even though dozens of people on this board alone who ordered way after I did already had devices in hand, I ordered a second device on 10/29/15 and, yes, it arrived on 11/03/15 - three days *before* the phone which was ordered one full month earlier! (yes, I sold the extra device on eBay at a small profit, but only after my wife decided it was too big for her)

I swear, if that happens again with the Pixel XL which I ordered within minutes of go-live, I am going to be really, really, pissed!

 

[gabbott]

Re: "Too expensive" vs Out of stock

The 6P release was, excuse me for saying so, a typical Google disaster. Many of us that pre-ordered within minutes or hours of go-live had our devices shipped days or even weeks *after* those that ordered weeks or more after go-live. Let me give you my own example: I ordered on go-live day, 9/30/15 and received that device on 11/06/15. Pissed because my initial order hadn't shipped even though dozens of people on this board alone who ordered way after I did already had devices in hand, I ordered a second device on 10/29/15 and, yes, it arrived on 11/03/15 - three days *before* the phone which was ordered one full month earlier! (yes, I sold the extra device on eBay at a small profit, but only after my wife decided it was too big for her)

I swear, if that happens again with the Pixel XL which I ordered within minutes of go-live, I am going to be really, really, pissed!

You sure you ordered your 6p on the 30th? If you did then it was 3 days later than when I ordered mine (Sept 27th) that is when preorders started. I was one of the first to receive one, on October 27th.

 

[EnemiesInTheEnd]

Sadly, the price was a necessary evil. The 6p had a lower margin point...but it was a fair price. And it led to reviewers and users assuming the price meant it was midrange or bad. Truth is, these current prices are 2x pricier than they should be. But in order for Google to enter the consumer market they have to charge market prices for flagship phones.

The 6P basically is a midrange phone. The phones are being priced accordingly.

 

[N4Newbie]

Re: "Too expensive" vs Out of stock

You sure you ordered your 6p on the 30th? If you did then it was 3 days later than when I ordered mine (Sept 27th) that is when preorders started. I was one of the first to receive one, on October 27th.

You are correct: here is a contemporaneous post with the correct info: http://forums.androidcentral.com/ne...rder-shipping-discussion-134.html#post4790676

(by the way, are YOU sure about your order date of 9/27? Everything I can find online says that pre-order began 9/29...)

I currently have three 6P's on order: the original 64GB Graphite which was ordered 9/30 at 9:07AM PDT, a 64GB Aluminum ordered 10/29 at 7:35AM PDT, and another 64GB Graphite ordered 10/30 @ 3:51PM PDT. All three are "Pending."

I can't wait to see which one ships first. I'll be cancelling the others soon after (unless someone wants to commit to taking them off my hands).

As it turned out, the one ordered 10/29 @ 7:35 AM went into shipping about 30 hours later and arrived on 11/3. I cancelled the 10/30 order soon after but left the 9/30 order open - it arrived on 11/6. Having decided that I actually preferred the Aluminum over the Graphite, I kept the 11/3 Aluminum and eBay'd the Graphite. I would have given it to my wife but she felt it was too large for her.

To be fair - the original 9/30 order was given a ship date of November 10-12, so, yes, it did actually arrive several days early. However, the thing that pissed me (and hundreds? of others) off was that so many of us who got orders in early were often the last to receive them. Read through the quoted thread and you can find lots of complaints similar to mine. And it wasn't color specific; I saw a lot of people ordering Graphites in mid and late October getting nearly instant shipping while mine languished. And, no, there were no credit issues that would have affected shipping.

 

[gabbott]

Re: "Too expensive" vs Out of stock

You are correct: here is a contemporaneous post with the correct info: http://forums.androidcentral.com/ne...rder-shipping-discussion-134.html#post4790676

(by the way, are YOU sure about your order date of 9/27? Everything I can find online says that pre-order began 9/29...)



As it turned out, the one ordered 10/29 @ 7:35 AM went into shipping about 30 hours later and arrived on 11/3. I cancelled the 10/30 order soon after but left the 9/30 order open - it arrived on 11/6. Having decided that I actually preferred the Aluminum over the Graphite, I kept the 11/3 Aluminum and eBay'd the Graphite. I would have given it to my wife but she felt it was too large for her.

To be fair - the original 9/30 order was given a ship date of November 10-12, so, yes, it did actually arrive several days early. However, the thing that pissed me (and hundreds? of others) off was that so many of us who got orders in early were often the last to receive them. Read through the quoted thread and you can find lots of complaints similar to mine. And it wasn't color specific; I saw a lot of people ordering Graphites in mid and late October getting nearly instant shipping while mine languished. And, no, there were no credit issues that would have affected shipping.

Yeah it was the 29th, not the 27th. I had looked it up the other day and must have confused delivery date as that was the 27th. Anyway it was fresh in my mind (although slightly incorrect) so when I saw the 30th just seemed off

Yeah I do recall there were some that received their orders before others that has ordered before them.

 

[codeda]

The 6P basically is a midrange phone. The phones are being priced accordingly.

When the 6p was released there was nothing about it that was a midrange phone. It was a flagship with flagship specs and hardware

 

[Free_Sparrow]

And people paying over £1200 for it on ebay plus £45 shipping.... But, if someone really really wants it now... I can wait 2 moth for it, but the regular price is ok, if the promised service/software delivers the promises.

 

[OUGrad05]

My guess is the biggest allotment is going to the retailers due to lack of market penetration on previous Nexus devices. Retail penetration is the only real way to solve that problem. The only folks ordering direct from google are the techie types which are a very small percentage of the overall phone market.

 

[Richard Servello]

The 6P basically is a midrange phone. The phones are being priced accordingly.

It's midrange now. When it was released it was as high end as it gets.

 

[Wiley_11]

When the 6p was released there was nothing about it that was a midrange phone. It was a flagship with flagship specs and hardware

I think *midrange* is his favorite word. I think I've seen him use it 100 times in the last week.
#boywhocriedwolfsyndrome

 

[Jeremy8000]

My guess is the biggest allotment is going to the retailers due to lack of market penetration on previous Nexus devices. Retail penetration is the only real way to solve that problem. The only folks ordering direct from google are the techie types which are a very small percentage of the overall phone market.

Is anyone besides Verizon and Best Buy retailing them (in the US)? If not, I'd expect they'd keep the lion's share for Play Store, since anyone wanting one for ANY other carrier will basically need to go through Google directly (not to mention those Verizon users who don't want Big Red dictating when they get their updates, were they to buy the phone through VZ...)

 

[EnemiesInTheEnd]

It's midrange now. When it was released it was as high end as it gets.

No, it wasn't.

 

[EnemiesInTheEnd]

I think *midrange* is his favorite word. I think I've seen him use it 100 times in the last week.
#boywhocriedwolfsyndrome

Because that's what the phone is. It was always a cheaply built phone with good specs on paper, just like any other midrange phone.

 

[Clocks]

I find it hilarious that many people are complaining about the cost of the phone, yet the most expensive configurations are completely sold out. Hmmm....

Perhaps some people think it is too expensive and complain, and other people don't think it's too expensive and ordered. "The Internet" is not one person...

 

[arthurhkt]

Seriously, I am surprise that the devices sold out so quickly in the couple of day, while entire internet were complaining of it price, but really, if only Google store would ship to my country, I wish I could buy it too

 

[tdizzel]

Is anyone besides Verizon and Best Buy retailing them (in the US)? If not, I'd expect they'd keep the lion's share for Play Store, since anyone wanting one for ANY other carrier will basically need to go through Google directly (not to mention those Verizon users who don't want Big Red dictating when they get their updates, were they to buy the phone through VZ...)

I don't work for Verizon, so this is just a guess, but I don't think Verizon would be very happy paying for exclusivity and then having Google keep the lion's share of the phones for the Play Store so the phones can be used on other carriers.