U11 vs iPhone 7 plus vs S8 camera shoot out

All I have to say about all this dxomark stuff is when the new pixel or note 8 comes out everybody better not switch it up and be pro dxob if they have a higher score...
 
All I have to say about all this dxomark stuff is when the new pixel or note 8 comes out everybody better not switch it up and be pro dxob if they have a higher score...

I'm not worried about the pixel fans but you can bet your butt the Samsung fans will be all over it if the note 8 is rated high.
 
I think the DxO scores have to betaken with a grain of salt....... the highest score does not mean it has the best camera or is the better phone. the same can be said of benchmarks for the same reason. User experience trumps everything.
 
All I have to say about all this dxomark stuff is when the new pixel or note 8 comes out everybody better not switch it up and be pro dxob if they have a higher score...

I keep liking this, and smashing my screen, but it only shows up once.
 
I think the DxO scores have to betaken with a grain of salt....... the highest score does not mean it has the best camera or is the better phone. the same can be said of benchmarks for the same reason. User experience trumps everything.

I think when scores are separated by a few points, you can group those cameras together. Then figure out what idiosyncrasies you can live with.
 
Quite honestly, there is a reason why sites like PetaPixel and DPReview have a score just for RAW files.

If you're going to judge the actual performance of the hardware, the RAW file is probably the way to go as it's usually free from any post-processing done when the software compresses it into a JPEG. However, it might not be the most ideal way to judge color accuracy or saturation since different sensors can capture a scene differently without processing.

As far as I know, DxOMark Mobile doesn't test the RAW files, presumably because not every phone they've tested has that ability right out of the box, like the Pixel, at least without the use of a third-party app. As a result, their scores are also taking into account the post-processing of whatever they're testing.
 
They should judge using the phone camera the way that the vast, vast majority of people use theirs. That is right out of the camera as jpeg. Also some, Xperia for example, have no access to raw even with 3rd party apps.
It would do no good to rate a camera high because of what can be recovered from its raw output when it's processed jpgs might be crap. The vast majority of people use the jpgs that the camera spits out in auto mode. That's what should be primarly tested. Remember the Star Trek line "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few". :-p
 
The HTC U11 cannot be objectively the best camera when it doesn't outperform the competition. You have no legitimate basis to call it objectively the best. The only thing you can point to is the DxOMark score, which is arbitrary, subjective, and doesn't always reflect real-world use.

That's a good point. I did have autofocus problems this weekend. Many shots are absolutely stellar, but it has trouble focusing close on a slightly moving object.