Verizon looking into the signal strength issue, software coming

[Ken7]

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I think its just a case of ty samsung radios more than anything..

That's the distinct possibility that scares me.

 

[Ken7]

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It's a Trap!

It may not be a trap, but it's far from a guarantee this will fix the issue that so many of us are having. We can only cross our fingers.

 

[Ken7]

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Sorry to burst everyone's bubbles, but the leaked radios show no improvement whatsoever. Reported signal is identical, speeds are identical (if not worse), and handoff to 3G is actually significantly worse. I'm very disappointed right now. I really don't know what the deal is, but the speeds are sort of pathetic.

I'm more and more concerned it's just another craptatstic Samsung radio. All the updates my Charge got did absolutely nothing for the lousy data reception I had so often. What a shame. I hope I'm wrong.

 

[Ken7]

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Nothing to do with the phone. Everything to do with the network.

Only it doesn't explain why his friend's IPhone had no trouble with 3G at the same time. Weren't you saying when 4G goes down so does 3G on an LTE phone? I'm not sure why the loss of 3G too would only affect LTE phones.

 

[VideoEngineerAJS]

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Only it doesn't explain why his friend's IPhone had no trouble with 3G at the same time. Weren't you saying when 4G goes down so does 3G on an LTE phone? I'm not sure why the loss of 3G too would only affect LTE phones.

Someone posted an article about this yesterday or the day before, I wish I remembered which thread. It's the way the LTE phones are authenticated on the network. Verizon uses a bit of a hodge podge way by using the SIM to authenticate on both networks. This is why it takes it a little bit of time for the handoff back and forth.

Because it's such a strange way to authenticate and it's sort of a mixed bag of technologies trying to be mashed together, this is why Verizon is trying to move to LTE as quickly as possible so they won't have to deal with these issues anymore than they need to.

 

[CarryMe]

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Someone posted an article about this yesterday or the day before, I wish I remembered which thread. It's the way the LTE phones are authenticated on the network.

Here is a link to the article:

This Is Why Your Verizon Galaxy Nexus (Or Other 4G LTE VZW Phone) Is Losing Its Data Connection

 

[Silent Patriot]

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Just climb the tower to make a call. No problem.

You're climbing it wrong. :-$

 

[WolfSkull]

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Mine has issues and as I had mentioned before in another post when comparing the dBm signal of my Nexus to the rezound and the Razr side by side both those products had anywhere from 12-26 dBm signal strength better than my GN I've only seen my dBm get into the -90 only once the rest of the time it's sually -103 dBm - 118 dBm.

Hopefully this isn't an issue of some GN's are faulty. Seems some are having problems and some are not.

Mine is only 1-5 worse dBm than the Razr and a two HTC phones I checked.

 

[CarryMe]

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Here is a link from another thread:

AnandTech - Investigating the Galaxy Nexus LTE Signal Issue

 

[Ken7]

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Hopefully this isn't an issue of some GN's are faulty. Seems some are having problems and some are not.

Mine is only 1-5 worse dBm than the Razr and a two HTC phones I checked.

I honestly think that every single GN has the issue...every one. BUT, if you live in a very strong 4G area, you'll wonder what people are talking about. However, take those same 'reliable' GNs to one of the areas that people are having trouble in, and watch as that 'reliable' phone becomes UNreliable.

As with real estate, it's location location location. But with that said, those areas are what separates the men from the boys. A phone with a great radio like the Rezound, will shrug these issues off and maintain a solid 4G connection while a phone like the GN will struggle.

Whether it's software or hardware, nobody knows. I'm convinced that anyone that is 'sure' this is a software problem has no idea what they're talking about. We can 'hope' it's software, but nobody at this point can be certain. What we can be certain of is that the GN has issues in areas where other 4G phones don't.

 

[racedog]

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I honestly think that every single GN has the issue...every one. BUT, if you live in a very strong 4G area, you'll wonder what people are talking about. However, take those same 'reliable' GNs to one of the areas that people are having trouble in, and watch as that 'reliable' phone becomes UNreliable.

As with real estate, it's location location location. But with that said, those areas are what separates the men from the boys. A phone with a great radio like the Rezound, will shrug these issues off and maintain a solid 4G connection while a phone like the GN will struggle.

I think you've hit the nail on the head. Last weekend we were up in Kansas City and the phone performed incredibly well. But, that's a full 4G area with towers everywhere. Bring the phone back to where I live and its a whole other story.

I'm really struggling right now because I do love the phone overall but the core functions of phone and data/wifi connectivity have to work reliably. I've had both Moto and HTC phones in the past and they have worked just fine here. The GN is the first one that seems to have a lot of issues here with phone and data. Wifi is going to be an issue anywhere but I don't count that because of the way I use our wifi here with our house wifi needing to reach to our RV.

 

[VideoEngineerAJS]

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I honestly think that every single GN has the issue...every one. BUT, if you live in a very strong 4G area, you'll wonder what people are talking about. However, take those same 'reliable' GNs to one of the areas that people are having trouble in, and watch as that 'reliable' phone becomes UNreliable.

As with real estate, it's location location location. But with that said, those areas are what separates the men from the boys. A phone with a great radio like the Rezound, will shrug these issues off and maintain a solid 4G connection while a phone like the GN will struggle.

Whether it's software or hardware, nobody knows. I'm convinced that anyone that is 'sure' this is a software problem has no idea what they're talking about. We can 'hope' it's software, but nobody at this point can be certain. What we can be certain of is that the GN has issues in areas where other 4G phones don't.

Well last night P3Droid retweeted someone who flashed the new radios that are coming in 4.0.3 and they said that they went from -103dbm to -83dbm after installing the new radios. I would say that's a pretty big improvement.

 

[LangHoo]

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Some people, like my grandmother and "slow" brother, are just not cut out to be early adopters. It's frustrating when you can't figure out complex issues and need to lash out. Nothing wrong with that. Don't hold it in.

 

[racedog]

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Well last night P3Droid retweeted someone who flashed the new radios that are coming in 4.0.3 and they said that they went from -103dbm to -83dbm after installing the new radios. I would say that's a pretty big improvement.

I saw that, but I've also been reading other reports of people flashing the new radios and seeing absolutely no improvement. Right now I don't know what is true or whom to believe. This whole GN mess just keeps getting nuttier every day.

 

[Dirty-Bird]

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Any estimate on when 4.03 is coming?

 

[VideoEngineerAJS]

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Any estimate on when 4.03 is coming?

Well the Nexus S already has it (but the radios didn't change on it) so I'm guessing right now Verizon is just testing it out.

 

[VideoEngineerAJS]

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I saw that, but I've also been reading other reports of people flashing the new radios and seeing absolutely no improvement. Right now I don't know what is true or whom to believe. This whole GN mess just keeps getting nuttier every day.

It may be hit and miss with the software, plus let's not totally rule out the idea that there may be some truly defective units out there. My guess is the people who have absolutely no signal whatsoever probably have a defective unit. The others like me who just drop down to 3G when I'm at home when I had 4G with my Thunderbolt, probably just need a firmware update.

 

[metsnfins]

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i lost all 3g/4g for about 15 minutes this morning

 

[pauldroidr2d2]

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Down in Tucson AZ, without netflix what am i supposed to do while im at work

Actually work?

 

[Qazme]

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I honestly think that every single GN has the issue...every one. BUT, if you live in a very strong 4G area, you'll wonder what people are talking about. However, take those same 'reliable' GNs to one of the areas that people are having trouble in, and watch as that 'reliable' phone becomes UNreliable.

As with real estate, it's location location location. But with that said, those areas are what separates the men from the boys. A phone with a great radio like the Rezound, will shrug these issues off and maintain a solid 4G connection while a phone like the GN will struggle.

Whether it's software or hardware, nobody knows. I'm convinced that anyone that is 'sure' this is a software problem has no idea what they're talking about. We can 'hope' it's software, but nobody at this point can be certain. What we can be certain of is that the GN has issues in areas where other 4G phones don't.

I don't think you're totally right. The incredible as well as other phones had issues with reception that were fixed in software. As far as weak vs strong signal going from issue to no issues that's sort of obvious. We have very weak 4G here, but when you are in the area it works and doesn't drop. I think the updates coming will refine this, even though I don't have issues, it would be disheartening if it continues for others.