Verizon officially pulls update via Twitter

[Adrynalyne]

I think they are going to use team bamf's fix. It's working great on my phone.

They will, I am 100% sure of it.

The reasoning? Because we merely added back in the code that they seemed to have forgotten.

 

[dannychaos]

It sucks that it got pulled but it is for the best I guess. I don't really mind since I use Google Voice.

 

[Adrynalyne]

Ponder this:

Do you really think they will fix the other release bugs other than VM? Maybe...Google Talk front facing camera? LOL.

 

[willymakit]

I didn't worry about it, when I get the missed call notification I just call my voicemail.

 

[Adrynalyne]

I didn't worry about it, when I get the missed call notification I just call my voicemail.

I bet if you had a high volume of calls daily you wouldn't be so nonchalant about it.

 

[FrankXS]

I think they are going to use team bamf's fix. It's working great on my phone.

Did it ever occur to you that someone (or more) on team bamf might work for VZW or HTC? Nah... Nah... that can't be. Can it?

-Frank

 

[jdk2]

VZW is too busy challenging the FCC over net neutrality, backing Samsung against Apple's lawsuit and other very important legal issues. They don't have time for menial stuff like software upgrades as there isn't any revenue being generated and causes too many complaints to customer service

 

[nate44]

This, and many other reasons why in the future, I will never buy a phone that Team BAMF isn't going to support

 

[DC Damien]

Agree that VZ challenge on net neutrality was outrageous. So far enjoying the update. VM working. Overall the various updates took way too long to give us the phone they promised last winter! Now if they can figure out how we can keep a steady lock on a 4G signal we will be in business!

 

[recDNA]

I don't mind losing the signal. I mind having to do a reset to get it back! Airplane toggle never works for me nor does changing from lte to 3g. Only reset works and that takes forever.

 

[ambushbug73]

Before I wasn't getting vm notification and when I opened up vm it would show 0 messages. I called support and they removed basic vm from my account and then re added it. I still don't get notifications, but at least it now shows how many vm's I have.

 

[Mortiel]

VZW is too busy challenging the FCC over net neutrality, backing Samsung against Apple's lawsuit and other very important legal issues. They don't have time for menial stuff like software upgrades as there isn't any revenue being generated and causes too many complaints to customer service

Verizon Wireless has more than enough manpower and resources to handle all of those simultaneously.

Side note: Big Red is not challenging the fact that the internet should be open to everyone. The current net neutrality rules also limit cellular carriers from being able to utilize QoS packet scheduling, where certain packets are slowed down while others are pushed faster depending on their classification (i.e. streaming video faster vs. text-based website slower). The FCC's net neutrality rules prohibit that, which will negatively impact customers.

I also agree with Verizon backing Samsung because Apple's case is nonsense. The US courts need to stop the idiocy and set a precedence that vague patent infringement cases are a waste of time and money. "Hey, I invented something that has a vaguely square shape... yours is square too! You copied me!" Apple would do just fine if they just let their products sell themselves and stop being Nazis trying to stamp out competition.

Aside, this has little to do with how the software works on your phone... Verizon is responsible for checking the updates, not programming them. That's all up to HTC.

 

[FrankXS]

Side note: Big Red is not challenging the fact that the internet should be open to everyone. The current net neutrality rules also limit cellular carriers from being able to utilize QoS packet scheduling, where certain packets are slowed down while others are pushed faster depending on their classification (i.e. streaming video faster vs. text-based website slower). The FCC's net neutrality rules prohibit that, which will negatively impact customers.

Thanks for this bit. I'm not keeping up on the whole legal thing, but this part I know a little about (about as little as anybody ).

Just to clarify, for those who may not understand QoS (Quality of Service)... the reason this is important is because it is okay for normal TCP/IP packets to arrive all jumbled up. This is the standard for Internet data traffic. It happens because, in order to improve throughput over the Internet, packets often take different paths to arrive at the same destination, because TCP/IP can re-assemble them and put them into the right order before writing to disk. However, with video, it's different. It's streaming. It is very important that you try to get the packets arrive in sequence because they can't be streamed in the wrong order. Otherwise you'd see the end of the movie before the beginning -- haha... okay, extreme example. Essentially, QoS will give priority to video packets so they function better because they are received in better sequence and not all jumbled up. As you say, better for Internet users.

I guess some people are afraid that their ISP will use QoS to give their neighbor better service than them, I dunno...

-Frank

 

[KJ78]

I guess this debunks the theory that the GB leaks were intentional for testing purposes and bugs like the vm notification were intentionally included to prevent the masses from using the leak in lieu of the official ota. This vm bug drama is something I would have expected from Palm, not HTC.

 

[Adrynalyne]

Thanks for this bit. I'm not keeping up on the whole legal thing, but this part I know a little about (about as little as anybody ).

Just to clarify, for those who may not understand QoS (Quality of Service)... the reason this is important is because it is okay for normal TCP/IP packets to arrive all jumbled up. This is the standard for Internet data traffic. It happens because, in order to improve throughput over the Internet, packets often take different paths to arrive at the same destination, because TCP/IP can re-assemble them and put them into the right order before writing to disk. However, with video, it's different. It's streaming. It is very important that you try to get the packets arrive in sequence because they can't be streamed in the wrong order. Otherwise you'd see the end of the movie before the beginning -- haha... okay, extreme example. Essentially, QoS will give priority to video packets so they function better because they are received in better sequence and not all jumbled up. As you say, better for Internet users.

I guess some people are afraid that their ISP will use QoS to give their neighbor better service than them, I dunno...

-Frank

The problem is if you let them shape traffic, there is nothing to stop them from shaping it to suit other needs as well that aren't nearly as noble.

 

[AndroidXTC]

I have yet to see Android come out with a new operating system no matter what carrier I had that wasn't screwed up in some way. This is why I went to the iPhone. Honestly I have ZERO issues with updates on the iphone.

 

[bed269]

The problem is if you let them shape traffic, there is nothing to stop them from shaping it to suit other needs as well that aren't nearly as noble.

Considering it's big red's network that's their option.

Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk

 

[recDNA]

And zero 4G LTE availability.

 

[FrankXS]

I have yet to see Android come out with a new operating system no matter what carrier I had that wasn't screwed up in some way. This is why I went to the iPhone. Honestly I have ZERO issues with updates on the iphone.

How's that blinking LED notification working for you? And the non-Wifi video chat? Choices.

-Frank

 

[AndroidXTC]

How's that blinking LED notification working for you? And the non-Wifi video chat? Choices.

-Frank

All stuff I could care less about. I just want a phone that works properly. Next week IOS5 will fix all of that including voice texting.