Verizon 'significantly altering' unlimited data?

[alxarambula]

Tom Wheeler where you @

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[Almeuit]

Tom Wheeler where you @

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I don't think he can do anything. They don't have to offer an unlimited plan. He only got onto them before because they offered unlimited and tried to then say it had a limit by using throttle. He can force them to not sell one thing and then give another -- he can't force them to offer a plan they don't want to offer anymore.

 

[UDPGuy]

I don't think he can do anything. They don't have to offer an unlimited plan. He only got onto them before because they offered unlimited and tried to then say it had a limit by using throttle. He can force them to not sell one thing and then give another -- he can't force them to offer a plan they don't want to offer anymore.

To me this is limiting to 100gb... They are scaring everyone that has an unlimited plan to not go over a certain amount or they could lose it... I really do think they will say something again

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[Almeuit]

To me this is limiting to 100gb... They are scaring everyone that has an unlimited plan to not go over a certain amount or they could lose it... I really do think they will say something again

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Ah but that is different. Limit would be "go over X amount and you get throttled / slowed / whatever each month" -- this isn't the case. They are saying you're abusing the network by huge means and disrupting service.. therefore they can void your service if they deem it as such. Hence why they're saying using a ton .. Because then they can claim network strain and therefore they're good.

 

[UDPGuy]

Ah but that is different. Limit would be "go over X amount and you get throttled / slowed / whatever each month" -- this isn't the case. They are saying you're abusing the network by huge means and disrupting service.. therefore they can void your service if they deem it as such. Hence why they're saying using a ton .. Because then they can claim network strain and therefore they're good.

But now it's "go over this possible x amount and be disconnected" ... Kind of the same for me. But instead of throttled I get my service completely shut off. They are 100% only calling us out. If a normal line was using 100gb+ they'd never say anything because that person would pay a lot of money.

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[Almeuit]

But now it's "go over this possible x amount and be disconnected" ... Kind of the same for me. But instead of throttled I get my service completely shut off. They are 100% only calling us out. If a normal line was using 100gb+ they'd never say anything because that person would pay a lot of money.

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Is it? I disagree. They never stated an amount to go over. They just said "people well over 100 GB" .. do they mean 110? 120? 1,200? No one knows. Therefore -- no cap limit. They just are going after people who they deem to be abusing it. I wasn't kidding when I said early they didn't specify an exact limit for a reason.

Now in real talk is it for the money? Well .. yeah. Always is.. but sadly there isn't a illegal or contractual issue here. They can say "using that much is abuse and causing network issues". Especially since they can say .. That guy uses 800 GB a month and our average customer is 2-3 GB a month so he is worth X customers.

 

[UDPGuy]

Is it? I disagree. They never stated an amount to go over. They just said "people well over 100 GB" .. do they mean 110? 120? 1,200? No one knows. Therefore -- no cap limit. They just are going after people who they deem to be abusing it. I wasn't kidding when I said early they didn't specify an exact limit for a reason.

Now in real talk is it for the money? Well .. yeah. Always is.. but sadly there isn't a illegal or contractual issue here. They can say "using that much is abuse and causing network issues". Especially since they can say .. That guy uses 800 GB a month and our average customer is 2-3 GB a month so he is worth X customers.

My hope is that since they are specifically targeting UDP users they get hit again... If it's really an issue it should not matter what plan I'm on... That's what I'm saying

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[Almeuit]

My hope is that since they are specifically targeting UDP users they get hit again... If it's really an issue it should not matter what plan I'm on... That's what I'm saying

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It shouldn't but once you talk about real-world things (as in how it really goes versus how it should)... They will say the person paying for the big buckets and using them is helping them to fund the network and then your argument goes out the window. Do they want $450 for 100 GB or $30? Yeah..

Sadly it is how it is. It sucks trust me but they aren't doing anything illegal, contractual violations, or anything of that nature. T-Mobile could swipe my plan from me tomorrow and I couldn't do a damn thing since they don't "owe" me it. T-Mobile is in the same boat for this one day because all of them have "abuse" clauses in their terms but they never state what they count it as. They just say "if we deem..." that is the BIG catch there.

 

[UDPGuy]

It shouldn't but once you talk about real-world things (as in how it really goes versus how it should)... They will say the person paying for the big buckets and using them is helping them to fund the network and then your argument goes out the window. Do they want $450 for 100 GB or $30? Yeah..

Sadly it is how it is. It sucks trust me but they aren't doing anything illegal, contractual violations, or anything of that nature. T-Mobile could swipe my plan from me tomorrow and I couldn't do a damn thing since they don't "owe" me it. T-Mobile is in the same boat for this one day because all of them have "abuse" clauses in their terms but they never state what they count it as. They just say "if we deem..." that is the BIG catch there.

T-Mobile did this awhile back but only for people in the terabytes and who were illegally tethering

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[Almeuit]

T-Mobile did this awhile back but only for people in the terabytes and who were illegally tethering

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Yeah but my point is -- they could do it for any reason that they deem to be "abuse". They don't owe me anything since I am not in contract. Hence why Verizon isn't touching those in contract.

 

[UDPGuy]

Yeah but my point is -- they could do it for any reason that they deem to be "abuse". They don't owe me anything since I am not in contract. Hence why Verizon isn't touching those in contract.

Well I already try to keep them in contract... Next one is up in October. Hope I can keep it that way!

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[hittsjunk]

I lost my unlimited data plan Wednesday. Because I have a limited minute plan, I ran the risk of going over on minutes this month. My friends who used to be on Verizon have gone to other companies, so I'm using cell minutes. Verizon only offered me a 24 gig data plan that would cost me more as a solution. They would not discuss changes or bonus minutes on Legacy cell plans. Good luck to you folks on unlimited data. I enjoyed it while I had it. While I was trying to find a solution, I discovered Verizon is the only cell company that charges you for cell minutes even when you forward the number to another phone number. That really sucks!

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[UDPGuy]

I lost my unlimited data plan Wednesday. Because I have a limited minute plan, I ran the risk of going over on minutes this month. My friends who used to be on Verizon have gone to other companies, so I'm using cell minutes. Verizon only offered me a 24 gig data plan that would cost me more as a solution. They would not discuss changes or bonus minutes on Legacy cell plans. Good luck to you folks on unlimited data. I enjoyed it while I had it. While I was trying to find a solution, I discovered Verizon is the only cell company that charges you for cell minutes even when you forward the number to another phone number. That really sucks!

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You can change your legacy plan with the Verizon App and up your minutes... They offer all the way up to unlimited minutes...

Were you on a single line plan or a family plan?

Single- 450 minutes or 900 minutes plus 5 friends and family or unlimited minutes

Family- 700 minutes or 1400 minutes plus 10 friends and family or 2000 minutes with 10 friends and family or unlimited minutes

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[General Tso]

http://arstechnica.com/information-...mited-data-customers-who-use-over-100gbmonth/

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[Almeuit]

Verizon to disconnect unlimited data customers who use over 100GB/month | Ars Technica

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Yep everyone is writing about it now. Engadget says "Starting Sept. 1st" for their article.

https://www.engadget.com/2016/07/22/verizon-disconnect-heaviest-unlimited-data-users/

The bottom quote at the end of article is funny...

*Verizon has acquired AOL, Engadget's parent company. However, Engadget maintains full editorial control, and Verizon will have to pry it from our cold, dead hands.

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[yeahizme]

Omg....so they just cancelled your UDP without even giving you prior notice???

 

[LeoRex]

Is it? I disagree. They never stated an amount to go over. They just said "people well over 100 GB" .. do they mean 110? 120? 1,200? No one knows. Therefore -- no cap limit. They just are going after people who they deem to be abusing it. I wasn't kidding when I said early they didn't specify an exact limit for a reason.

Yeah... this is Verizon releasing a statement saying "We know who you are, and you know we know... so consider this a friendly warning"

 

[cbreze]

Not saying they should be cutting people off, but are there really that many users who go over 100GB in one month? I still think thats a pretty generous
allotment. I figured being the control freak giant that they are that they would have made that cutoff point a lot lower. When I had UL data I ran all my home internet needs which included netflix and never went over about 50GB. I know different people do different things with their different needs regarding data but I still think 100 GB is pretty adequate. They could have said 50GB. A few years ago when a lot of this UL stuff started coming down Verizon was saying most of their data customers used less that 2GB. So I'm actually kind of surprised they went as high as 100GB.
Forgot about poke-me-man , everybody needs truck loads of data for that. LoL!

 

[scottysize]

Verizon's killing me. I don't have any other alternative for Internet at my house. Geez. This applies to me as I use anywhere from 160 to over 200GBs per month.

 

[raino]

Because then they can claim network strain and therefore they're good.

They can't just proclaim "network strain!" and use it as an excuse to shut people down? Surely there is some degree of verification involved for such a claim?