Verizon vs Unlocked

[bhatech]

Is it true that Verizon phones automatically unlock after 60 days?

Yes that’s correct they automatically sim unlock the phone after 60 days.

 

[bhatech]

Personally sim unlock is not the main draw on unlocked model for me. It’s the lack of Verizon boot logo, Verizon crap and Verizon specific firmware customization. Could care less for sim unlock.

 

[buzzy3970]

And features that should natively be on your phone. There's a lot of Samsung features that get taken off carrier models especially Verizon and at&t.

Personally sim unlock is not the main draw on unlocked model for me. It’s the lack of Verizon boot logo, Verizon crap and Verizon specific firmware customization. Could care less for sim unlock.

 

[ProMed]

Trying to put this all together in my head. With an unlocked you lose video calling in the dialer, lose all the verizon apps/bloatware, and gain some Samsung features Verizon cuts out. What about RMS messaging and/or mobile hotspot support? Anything else I'm missing?

 

[Mike Dee]

Trying to put this all together in my head. With an unlocked you lose video calling in the dialer, lose all the verizon apps/bloatware, and gain some Samsung features Verizon cuts out. What about RMS messaging and/or mobile hotspot support? Anything else I'm missing?

You retain wifi calling, voLTE, with an unlocked device on Verizon...RCS will work with Google messaging.
You can connect to Samsungs Find my Mobile which is more feature rich than Googles Find my Device. I'm not aware of any other Samsung features you would lose with the Verizon model but someone might know different

 

[Mike Dee]

Is it true that Verizon phones automatically unlock after 60 days?

Yes but it's just sim unlocked to work on any carrier. It still has Verizon firmware so it may be less compatible with other carriers than a fully unlocked phone

 

[buzzy3970]

You lose call & text feature with your tablet. If you are on the OG unlimited plan like me you lose free unlimited hotspot. You lose the hiya call features in the phone app. There are a few others but those are most important.

You retain wifi calling, voLTE, with an unlocked device on Verizon...RCS will work with Google messaging.
You can connect to Samsungs Find my Mobile which is more feature rich than Googles Find my Device. I'm not aware of any other Samsung features you would lose with the Verizon model but someone might know different

 

[buzzy3970]

It's gotten much better. When you input another carriers sim in the new models it actually loads the carriers firmware and carrier apps. Been doing it since the s8.

Yes but it's just sim unlocked to work on any carrier. It still has Verizon firmware so it may be less compatible with other carriers than a fully unlocked phone

 

[mustang7757]

Yes but it's just sim unlocked to work on any carrier. It still has Verizon firmware so it may be less compatible with other carriers than a fully unlocked phone

No it should be like any network unlocked carrier phone , load up whatever sim you use

 

[ihtc]

Aren't Samsungs all able to flash cross carrier / unlocked firmware these days. In theory if you get a Verizon version can't you just odin to unlocked firmware. I want unlocked but with best buy offering $150 more off the verizon one (yes via stupid bill credits, but still Im not going anywhere), thats the route I was going.

 

[Mike Dee]

No it should be like any network unlocked carrier phone , load up whatever sim you use

The device will work but it may be less compatible with certain features. If there is a specific setting a carrier needs it may or may not work. I'm not willing to go out on a limb unless it holds my weight.

 

[Mike Dee]

Aren't Samsungs all able to flash cross carrier / unlocked firmware these days. In theory if you get a Verizon version can't you just odin to unlocked firmware. I want unlocked but with best buy offering $150 more off the verizon one (yes via stupid bill credits, but still Im not going anywhere), thats the route I was going.

I believe so but not everyone wants to do thst

 

[mustang7757]

The device will work but it may be less compatible with certain features. If there is a specific setting a carrier needs it may or may not work. I'm not willing to go out on a limb unless it holds my weight.

No I think your misunderstood , Verizon sim unlocked is not the same a US unlocked.
If you have a carrier device and sim unlocked it , whatever carrier you use will load their carrier logo,RCS chat , Carrier Aggregation, .
Unlocked Samsung won't load any carrier logo, carrier RCS chat lost , Video call through stock dialer lost ,some WiFi calling, etc..

 

[Mike Dee]

No I think your misunderstood , Verizon sim unlocked is not the same a US unlocked.
If you have a carrier device and sim unlocked it , whatever carrier you use will load their carrier logo,RCS chat , Carrier Aggregation, .
Unlocked Samsung won't load any carrier logo, carrier RCS chat lost , Video call through stock dialer lost ,some WiFi calling, etc..

No, I didn't musunderstand

 

[ihtc]

I believe so but not everyone wants to do thst

Got ya. I’ll need to research if it’s still the case but I doubt it has changed. Hopefully I’ll be flashing away

 

[Mike Dee]

Got ya. I’ll need to research if it’s still the case but I doubt it has changed. Hopefully I’ll be flashing away

I'm pretty sure.... @mustang7757 can confirm about reflashing

 

[mustang7757]

No, I didn't musunderstand

Ok

 

[bhatech]

Got ya. I’ll need to research if it’s still the case but I doubt it has changed. Hopefully I’ll be flashing away

Yeah you can flash firmwares interchangeably and Mustang is local expert here on that

Personally also don't want do deal with that even if it's straight forward simple process and I get US Unlocked straight from Samsung who always has great offers for unlocked model. For me it's more of hatred towards the carrier models that I don't want to support buying them

 

[mustang7757]

Aren't Samsungs all able to flash cross carrier / unlocked firmware these days. In theory if you get a Verizon version can't you just odin to unlocked firmware. I want unlocked but with best buy offering $150 more off the verizon one (yes via stupid bill credits, but still Im not going anywhere), thats the route I was going.

Yes you can flash any carrier as it's universal but you want it sim unlocked otherwise your just basically like a factory reset stays same Carrier, and yes if you choose unlocked version you can also do that

 

[Mike Dee]

Yeah you can flash firmwares interchangeably and Mustang is local expert here on that

Personally also don't want do deal with that even if it's straight forward simple process and I get US Unlocked straight from Samsung who always has great offers for unlocked model.

Good God man! Do you have to inflate his ego? As it is he has trouble getting into his mustang. If his head gets any bigger he will have to drive with the sunroof open.