Verizon's Constitutional right to throttle you....

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So we all talk about isp's being a dumb pipe, but I guarantee that is a horrible idea. Right now the throttling that occurs is between different types of data. And email does not have the same priority that netflix does, netflix and other high bandwidth activities get priority. Prioritizing packets actually lowers cost quite a bit. Make isp's treat it all the same, and your entire Internet access experience is going be less than it is now.

But of course what will happen will be like what happened to the development for us. Some isp will actually throttle all activity except to their own sites, and everyone will freak and beg for the "cops" to make new laws, and we are done.

Off topic, please stop with the politics. I come here for enjoyment, if I want political talk, I'll go elsewhere, thanks.
 
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bad boys don't get "throttled," that is for civilians that don't know any better...
 
twolastnames said:
So we all talk about isp's being a dumb pipe, but I guarantee that is a horrible idea. Right now the throttling that occurs is between different types of data. And email does not have the same priority that netflix does, netflix and other high bandwidth activities get priority. Prioritizing packets actually lowers cost quite a bit. Make isp's treat it all the same, and your entire Internet access experience is going be less than it is now.

But of course what will happen will be like what happened to the development for us. Some isp will actually throttle all activity except to their own sites, and everyone will freak and beg for the "cops" to make new laws, and we are done.

Off topic, please stop with the politics. I come here for enjoyment, if I want political talk, I'll go elsewhere, thanks.
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Prioritizing types is one thing but making espn load faster than si.com because espn pays for it to be that way is wrong

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piizzadude said:
Prioritizing types is one thing but making espn load faster than si.com because espn pays for it to be that way is wrong

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there you go, hack it. You know, hack living with it.....baha.
 
piizzadude said:
Prioritizing types is one thing but making espn load faster than si.com because espn pays for it to be that way is wrong

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But does this actually happen, or is this just something that could happen? If it's not really happening, and we change the whole system and make it suck, was it worth it?
 
No this is not in effect as of yet, surprisingly because of the FCC, but a lot of internet providers WANT this badly...so very bad.

I think you are missing the point here. I want nothing more than for the system to stay exactly as it is, and has been. No changes at all.
 
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But does this actually happen, or is this just something that could happen? If it's not really happening, and we change the whole system and make it suck, was it worth it?
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Not right now this is illegal - this is one of the things that will happen if Net Neutrality is changed. Service provides can decide what you see and don't see. For example they Verizon could block Sprint's website. They could make Netflix so slow on their network that it would either force low def or even make it too slow to make it practical.

Advocates of the change say it will allow them to traffic optimize their network to provide better service to everyone. While this may have a little merit since the Internet is now delivering content that was never dreamed of years ago when it was designed, I doubt any of the real reasons they are pushing is to help provide better service. What will happen is your service provide will block content in favor of content that will drive revenue to them.

Besides nothing is preventing Verizon from traffic optimizing users who use a lot of unlimited data. The existing contracts don't require unlimited LTE data - just unlimited data and this can be any speed Verizon decides it wants to deliver to a user. They already do this on 3G. So they can say after 5 GB your speed will be 2G. What they can't do is say for Netflix and Pandora your speed will be 2G and for the rest of your content the speed will be LTE.
 
I heard they cant throttle due to fcc restrictions on their band. I dunno how true that is.

If so, was that the bands vzw traded for tmobile's aws spectrum?

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NoYankees44 said:
3 things:
1. Name ONE country that has health care as good as ours(or even in the same ballpark) with every citizen on it and with the country in good economic standing. And dont say Canada where you have to wait 6 months for basic procedures and they tell you to go get private care if you want to live. Most if not all of the countries you are referring to are going bankrupt from overspending(on things like healthcare) and are now moving back to systems more like ours.
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Japan. Average citizen goes to the Dr. 14 times a year. Preventative medicine is far cheaper than the cure.

You listen to your politicians too much. They tell you who is to blame, and you they con you into pitting tax payer against taxpayer to fight for the scraps, when the corporations already own the politicians, and they keep filling their own pockets. People bash unions but when unions were strong, the CEO pay compared to the average worker was not the huge gap it is today. THAT is income inequality, and no the CEOs do not work harder today than they did 50 years ago.
 
If they want to throttle me, then I guess that is their right, as I have a right to leave due to slow service. What I have a problem with is paying the same amount to share 1 GB that I used to pay for unlimited over 2 lines. $50 for 1 GB or $100 for $10? How does that make sense? Shouldn't in theory, someone who uses 10 times the data pay 10 times more?

Really many users like a few I know barely use the phone. I would say a friend of mine barely uses 300 mb a month, no lie. Same for her husband. So combined, they will use barely 1/2 a gb, but still bay the $50. Meanwhile I can stream day and night, and only have to pay double? This is my biggest problem. If data usuage is such a "strain" on the network, then shouldn't the heaviest users pay the most for the "strain" they cause according to this model?
 
I'm a Sprint customer so maybe that's why I'm confused but what are these words throttling and data limiting?

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Vysse said:
I'm a Sprint customer so maybe that's why I'm confused but what are these words throttling and data limiting?

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I can understand as a sprint customer you would not know about throttling data considering you would have to shut your data off to make it any slower. :eek:

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If they want to throttle me, then I guess that is their right, as I have a right to leave due to slow service. What I have a problem with is paying the same amount to share 1 GB that I used to pay for unlimited over 2 lines. $50 for 1 GB or $100 for $10? How does that make sense? Shouldn't in theory, someone who uses 10 times the data pay 10 times more?

Really many users like a few I know barely use the phone. I would say a friend of mine barely uses 300 mb a month, no lie. Same for her husband. So combined, they will use barely 1/2 a gb, but still bay the $50. Meanwhile I can stream day and night, and only have to pay double? This is my biggest problem. If data usuage is such a "strain" on the network, then shouldn't the heaviest users pay the most for the "strain" they cause according to this model?
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There is no "strain" on the network. There is increased load on individual towers. Verizon(and others) are trying to prey upon the ill-informed law makers. They're talking about bandwidth as if it were a commodity when in fact it's simply a conduit. Once the conduit is done being used, someone else can use it or it lays dormant until someone does indeed use it.

I'm honestly advocating for anyone/everyone that is negatively impacted by this move to leave Verizon. I wouldn't suggest AT&T or T-Mobile either. Go for a prepaid, solid carrier in your area. If you're a traveler, try straight talk who resells service from all of the big 3(4). The only way our tiny voices will ever be heard is in unison and aimed directly at Verizon's pockets. Viva La Revoluci?n
 
After a bit of research and a bit of a wait, we decided that we are going to bolt from vzw. The LTE towers here in Harrisburg/York have already started testing their LTE network and It looks like an August turn on (ok October) for us. From the reports that I have read, it will challenge vzw here so I shouldnt miss a beat. The savings will be pretty substantial as well.

I want to stay with Verizon, but they have pushed too far.
 
bed269 said:
I can understand as a sprint customer you would not know about throttling data considering you would have to shut your data off to make it any slower. :eek:

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Sprint has never shut my data off once I reached a certain limit so I wouldn't know... but how about we both watch 100gb worth of movies and see who can continue this conversation at the end of the month.

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We are going to head off to sprint...... But ya... Let's stream and see what happens

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