I tried the Vibrant today. Coming from the Nexus, I can say the Super AMOLED is definitely an improvement. The distance between the screen and the touch surface is noticeably thinner (in other words, there's some "depth" on the Nexus), which seems to make the touch functions much more efficient. The extra .3" of real estate wasn't terribly obvious, but I'm sure it will make certain apps more usable. I didn't notice any lag at all.
went to T mobile and played with their S model
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Weird, my device was freezing up like crazy. It froze for a minute while trying to transition from the web browser to a game. Looks like my super fast daily tasks were too much for the phone to take!
not really. I think the Epic will be really good device. Best part about the problems are that they are all just software based and can be fixed...unlike the it-that-cannot-be-named device made by overlord Steve Jobs and his minions.ok today was weird, i went and played with the vibrant and it was horribly slow and freezing all the time.
not sure what the heck was going on but if the epic behaves like that ever i am going to be returning it as soon as it occurs.
i thought i was playing with a feature phone for a minute
definilitey blueish hue to screen too
not sure what the heck was going on but if the epic behaves like that ever i am going to be returning it as soon as it occurs.
i thought i was playing with a feature phone for a minute
definilitey blueish hue to screen too
Its caused by an issue the Epic wont have. The Captivate acts the same way, too. My guess is that their froyo will fix it for them.
Galaxy-S Stalling Issue? - xda-developers
Its an internal storage issue. Since the Epic doesn't really have any (at least used for that) with the 1GB ROM, it should store app data to the internal NAND memory, therefore, eliminating lag issue naturally. There are 2 theories, however, and both seem to work.
Doesn't help that instore phones are rarely rebooted and are probably running every app some knucklehead touched on it. Reboot the phone next time THEN see what you think.
I checked out the Captivate and I really liked it. It was gorgeous in person.
BUT
Did any of you guys feel like the screen isnt bright enough i.e. the whites arnt bright white. I might of only noticed because i had an iphone 4 next to the captivate while web browsing with both. Even with brightness turned all the way up on the captivate, the brightness still seemed low. At auto brightness I was really disappointed, it felt way too dim to enjoy web browsing, I dont remember for general use.
My palm pre is really bright and is the king in the sun. When using the captivate in the sun, I couldnt even notice the beauty in the colors i.e. it wasnt as vibrant in the sun. As soon as i went to a shaded area the colors popped out.
Any one else notice this? Im wondering if this is a huge drawback to purchasing the EPIC. Sure the screen is nice, but when outdoors the colors dont really seem to popout that much.
BUT
Did any of you guys feel like the screen isnt bright enough i.e. the whites arnt bright white. I might of only noticed because i had an iphone 4 next to the captivate while web browsing with both. Even with brightness turned all the way up on the captivate, the brightness still seemed low. At auto brightness I was really disappointed, it felt way too dim to enjoy web browsing, I dont remember for general use.
My palm pre is really bright and is the king in the sun. When using the captivate in the sun, I couldnt even notice the beauty in the colors i.e. it wasnt as vibrant in the sun. As soon as i went to a shaded area the colors popped out.
Any one else notice this? Im wondering if this is a huge drawback to purchasing the EPIC. Sure the screen is nice, but when outdoors the colors dont really seem to popout that much.
That was the first thing I did.
It was still slow as molasses and freezing up when for example going to android market.
And yes I compared it to my palm pre brightness and it's nowhere near as bright.
I think this is just a quality of amoled screens.
The whites aren't white but have a bluish hue as if the color temp was set to cold.
I can lice with that part I think.....but not the super sluggish performance.
Also i noticed the super jagged text when zoomed far away. And to top it off when I zoom in it seems to be a stupid zoom level. When I just double tap the text area. On pre and iPhone it smartly zooms in to the area to allow me to read it. But on android it zooms in way too far and even though it auto wraps the text it is a bit annoying and I noticed this behavior on vibrant and droid x and droid Inc so it seems to be inherent to android. Is this true? like zooming in by double tapping just isnt very smart?
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I turned up both brightness settings, the one in the regular settings and the one on the browser. the browser one made it BETTER but still had that non white hue more like grey almost blue
It's been said elsewhere the AMOLEDS are bluer than LCD. I'm more of a warm guy and prefer more of a yellow cast- but unless skin tones are BLUE on the phone (which they are not) I'm fine with it...enough to still buy it anyway.
NOTHING in my opinion is as bright as the Palm Pre in sunlight. That screen was amazing for that ONE aspect. I think it had a LOT to do with the PLASTIC tinted (perhaps polarized?) shell/screen it had. The complete LACK of glass cuts down on a LOT of glare- adding a polarized layer could punch up the colors (ever try polarized sunglasses and see how it improves your vision in the sun?).
I HATED not having a glass screen on the Pre however- the screen isn't as responsive, and the Pre was very easily vulnerable to cracks/fractures/scratches.
Every phone and technology has tradeoffs... if the Epic isn't what you want you can always wait another year- but the Droid 2 (keyboard model) sure doesn't cut it for me- the my touch2 doesn't either- the Intercept is a joke- so Epic is my phone unless something just plain doesn't work. (Like my Evo's rebooting 3 times in 2 hours)
NOTHING in my opinion is as bright as the Palm Pre in sunlight. That screen was amazing for that ONE aspect. I think it had a LOT to do with the PLASTIC tinted (perhaps polarized?) shell/screen it had. The complete LACK of glass cuts down on a LOT of glare- adding a polarized layer could punch up the colors (ever try polarized sunglasses and see how it improves your vision in the sun?).
I HATED not having a glass screen on the Pre however- the screen isn't as responsive, and the Pre was very easily vulnerable to cracks/fractures/scratches.
Every phone and technology has tradeoffs... if the Epic isn't what you want you can always wait another year- but the Droid 2 (keyboard model) sure doesn't cut it for me- the my touch2 doesn't either- the Intercept is a joke- so Epic is my phone unless something just plain doesn't work. (Like my Evo's rebooting 3 times in 2 hours)
I hear you there are definite tradeoffs and It didnt really bother me much
i was more concerned with the lagginess of the vibrant i believe due to that internal storage issue mentioned by someone on this thread.
if epic doesnt have that I will probably not mind the screen hue
i was more concerned with the lagginess of the vibrant i believe due to that internal storage issue mentioned by someone on this thread.
if epic doesnt have that I will probably not mind the screen hue
I still have yet to experience any feeling of lagginess on the device.
Anyway, I played with it some more and I feel that while there is definitely some blurriness to the text, it really isn't bad. The lack of resolution is obvious everywhere though. In google maps for example, the street maps just aren't very sharp. And yes, hte whites aren't as white as they should be.
The text reflow still bothers me though. The implementation is just horrible. It screws up the formatting of the site, and sometimes it still wont even get the text to fit in the screen, even after resizing it and reformatting it. On my Pre and the iPhone 4 on the same sites, it just zooms in and even on the smaller screens, the sites are still perfectly readable. I just feel that the whole thing gets in the way more often than it actually helps. I guess if you browse in landscape mode it rarely kicks in, but it is still annoying.
Even more annoying are android apologists who want to stick their fingers in their ears and pretend the phone is perfect.
Anyway, I played with it some more and I feel that while there is definitely some blurriness to the text, it really isn't bad. The lack of resolution is obvious everywhere though. In google maps for example, the street maps just aren't very sharp. And yes, hte whites aren't as white as they should be.
The text reflow still bothers me though. The implementation is just horrible. It screws up the formatting of the site, and sometimes it still wont even get the text to fit in the screen, even after resizing it and reformatting it. On my Pre and the iPhone 4 on the same sites, it just zooms in and even on the smaller screens, the sites are still perfectly readable. I just feel that the whole thing gets in the way more often than it actually helps. I guess if you browse in landscape mode it rarely kicks in, but it is still annoying.
Even more annoying are android apologists who want to stick their fingers in their ears and pretend the phone is perfect.
I mean, the same could be said for iPhone fanboys. That's the main issue with fanboyism. However, I tend to notice that Android fanboys tend to word things a little differently... it's "the best phone available" instead of "the best phone ever."
Either way though, fanboyism brings nothing to the table, so you're right. However, I think a fair argument could be made that this Super AMOLED screen is the best cell phone screen currently available. On the same token... an equally fair argument could be made that the Retina Display is the best cell phone screen currently available. Both have their drawbacks though...
More on-topic though... I would love to have an LED-Backlit Retina Display with local dimming, or a Super AMOLED with the same pixel density as the Retina.
Apple has an amazing implementation of last years technology. Samsung has a weak implementation of next years technology. AMOLED is hte future, but there are issues with it. The LEDs burn out more quickly if they are smaller, so we can't have that same pixel density yet. It also means we have to use the pentile matrix, which sucks and makes text fuzzy. This will probably be fixed in a year or two(they already fixed the giant problem of outdoor readability), but right now it just isn't there yet.
Of course, it is a superior technology compared to LCDs, and for us early adopters, the contrast, saturation, viewing angles and black levels on this thing are just amazing.
Of course, it is a superior technology compared to LCDs, and for us early adopters, the contrast, saturation, viewing angles and black levels on this thing are just amazing.
All OLED technology is highly experimental- and Samsung has not proven the energy savings is worth it- If I heard of Galaxy S users claiming 3 more hours of battery on average than MotoX or EVO then I'd say OLED is the future- but pentile is a HUGE step backwards IMHO- and viewing angles are not a problem on a mobile phone a phone is too small for more than 1 viewer anyway.
I'd rather have a non pentile with 4x resolution and seriously improved battery life- right now the Retina does that. I just hate iphone- and that's that. If they had a keyboard version and were on any other carrier than ATT, I'd perhaps TRY one for 30 days but until that happens I have no use for one.
Mind you- I love the rich saturation of OLED - but it truely is overkill (oversaturated) almost to a fault- and the not apparent battery life benefits and high failure rate in the manufacturing process really proves this technology is too early for prime time- otherwise we'd see all the LCDs in DSLRs go to AMOLED and they're NOT- they'd rather the higher resolution and accept poor viewing angle and those are only 2-3" screens even.
Samsung has a LOT invested in OLED technology and research - and they learned after LED that consumers care more about dynamic oversaturated color rather than correct color (probably why the Galaxies are often "cool" rather than "warm" too- they're making phones that appeal to the masses not the techies.
Keep in mind- I still feel Epic is the best option I have- but this screen has just as many faults as it does benefits. In many respects, I'd rather have the Epic with the Evo's screen
I'd rather have a non pentile with 4x resolution and seriously improved battery life- right now the Retina does that. I just hate iphone- and that's that. If they had a keyboard version and were on any other carrier than ATT, I'd perhaps TRY one for 30 days but until that happens I have no use for one.
Mind you- I love the rich saturation of OLED - but it truely is overkill (oversaturated) almost to a fault- and the not apparent battery life benefits and high failure rate in the manufacturing process really proves this technology is too early for prime time- otherwise we'd see all the LCDs in DSLRs go to AMOLED and they're NOT- they'd rather the higher resolution and accept poor viewing angle and those are only 2-3" screens even.
Samsung has a LOT invested in OLED technology and research - and they learned after LED that consumers care more about dynamic oversaturated color rather than correct color (probably why the Galaxies are often "cool" rather than "warm" too- they're making phones that appeal to the masses not the techies.
Keep in mind- I still feel Epic is the best option I have- but this screen has just as many faults as it does benefits. In many respects, I'd rather have the Epic with the Evo's screen
The screen is also thinner and lighter weight than an LCD, and that allows the Epic to be as light as it is, considering it has a full keyboard.
It is only about 10% heavier than the iPhone but it has a bigger screen bigger battery AND a qwerty keyboard.
The DROID has a smaller screen as well, and it is 10% heavier than the Epic.
It is only about 10% heavier than the iPhone but it has a bigger screen bigger battery AND a qwerty keyboard.
The DROID has a smaller screen as well, and it is 10% heavier than the Epic.
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