what a let down TB sucks!

[Upstreammiami]

I still dont get it lol. If two processors are running at 500mhz, wtf is the difference between that and one of em at 1ghz.

And yeah, honeycomb is optimized for it tho

Here's an example would you buy a boat with one 300 outboard or twin 150.... twin! They run much smoother then one motor same as the processors . Your gonna optimax one processor instead of running 2 smoothly.

 

[thebizz]

Look at the droid it was released in Nov in Jan the n1 was released then in Apr the dinc both were better than the droid. I don't want to be stuck in the same situation as last time I will wait instead of rushing out and buying something

 

[mclarryjr]

I'm going to wait too unless the TB comes out with much better spec then rumored. When I do upgrade it has to be a much better phone then the Dinc and so far I'm not seeing what I want. But I have been known to change my mind

 

[tropper]

I really don't think it will. The specs may be better than the spec list posted in this topic, but this phone will probably be released this month. I don't think any dual core devices will be ready for release this month.
The Moto Bionic does look really good, but motoblur and the locked bootloader are huge turn-offs. Plus, again, it's gonna be a while before it drops. I mean, anyone who wants to wait that long can, but keep in mind that by then there probably will be something better right around the corner.

I dont think they will either, but I dont believe Verizon would push a phone named the "thunderbolt" which is what their displaying their LTE as Lightning fast, out at CES as their First and "flagship" LTE phone. Then watch it fall on its face as two VZW phones were announced earlier that have better hardware. Just seems like it'll make em the laughing stock of the mobile world.
Just my two pennies
I agree the bionic looks and sounds sweet, but the bootloader is locked so you can have custom moto Rom but who wants that?

 

[menschmaschine5]

I'd actually say this year was fairly slow. There's still nothing out there that's significantly better than my Dinc (and in fact, I think I'm going to stick with my Dinc until my contract is up - although that doesn't mean that I'm not interested in what's coming up). Because, really, dual core won't be terribly useful until late this year, when honeycomb and apps that use more processor power are out. I don't care enough about LTE yet (and will want to wait until chips are made that don't cause LTE to have a huge amount of battery drain). Plus, I'm still on my parents' plan and should probably get off of it before I get a new phone (I will graduate from college in May).

I respect everyone's choice to wait for a different phone. But bashing the Thunderbolt or having unrealistic expectations of its hardware is kind of ridiculous, especially since we still don't know whether or not this spec list is legit.

Edit: Looks like Verizon's press conference is in a few hours (1:00 PST). This question will probably be settled once and for all by then . I also hope they either confirm or dispel the rumors of an imminent Verizon iphone as well. Not that I'd ever get one, but I am extremely curious.

 

[Bushido Brown]

From the front page of AC:

"Other notable features include the ability to record and display HD video content via its included HDMI port. The Droid Bionic will launch on Verizon during the second quarter of 2011."

The Thunderbolt probably will be the flagship device for a while. The Bionic isn't near release, and the hands on demo said that the demo phones were still buggy early builds, meaning it won't be released anytime soon.

Again, everyone keep in mind that we're talking at least a 3 month difference in release, if not more. The Thunderbolt won't have specs that live up to the bionic (although I still think the presented spec list is false), but it's going to come out much sooner.

I am iffy about the lack of an HDMI port as well. I'm not convinced that anyone would think it a good move to launch a 4.3" device without an HDMI port.

I'm guessing you didn't read the part where I said I was waiting on someone other than AC(AndroidCentral) to report a Q2 launch before I hop on the bandwagon. Say like...Verzion...or Moto.

Anywho. I'm gonna assume that the TB will do TV out via RCA cables like the DINC, and rely on DLNA for HD content streaming. I don't mind the RCA cables because the most useful implementation of TV Out (IMHO) is when you're on the road, particularly at a hotel-and not all of them have LCD sets with HDMI ports.

*edit Just heard from Motorola that it will be coming out in Q2.

 

[menschmaschine5]

My bad, I missed that part. Sorry. However, I will say that the reports that the demo phones were buggy and obviously not ready for release is further evidence that it won't be released for several months yet. They will need to get to the final build and have a testing/debugging period before release, which can take a while.

 

[Bushido Brown]

I still dont get it lol. If two processors are running at 500mhz, wtf is the difference between that and one of em at 1ghz.

And yeah, honeycomb is optimized for it tho

Its 2 cores both running at 1GHZ.

 

[Raptor007]

People should really start thinking 1 Year Contracts and pay the extra $70. Why be stuck with anything for 20 months when for a little bit more (cost of a spare battery) you can get something new in 10 months.

 

[thebizz]

i heard early q2 from one of the hands on videos from a motorola early q2 is listed in this video YouTube - DROID BIONIC by Motorola Hands-on at CES

 

[biff6789]

While official specs will not be released for another hour or so, I do fear that battery life will be poor.

Some manufacturers have already been given the green light to start listing accessories (which phone companies allow them to do 2-3 weeks before a phone drops). Take a look at this picture from Droid-Life:

http://www.droid-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/thunderbolt-accessories2.png

Offwire is listing that the standard battery for this phone will be 1400 mAh. To compare, the EVO (which can sometimes also have poor battery life issues for some users, especially when the 4G radio is turned on) has the larger 1500 mAh battery, and the Desire HD (the Thunderbolt's European twin) has a 1230 mAh battery and has SEVERE battery life issues. This quote comes from Engadget's review of the Desire HD:

"We took the new Android handset out to Portugal with us recently for our Nissan Leaf test drive and intentionally left the charger at home. Sadly, we can't say we were impressed by the result. Leaving the house with a fully juiced Desire HD at 11AM, we got to enjoy some very light browsing at the airport, a 30-minute round of Angry Birds while in the air, a few pictures taken en route to the hotel, and then some WiFi-based web exploration at our resting place before the battery gave up on us in the evening. Sure, it lasted "a whole day," but our use was minimal and the wireless radios were throttled by the phone being in airplane mode for half the time."

Seeing how the T-bolt's battery is more or less the same, unless there have been significant hardware improvements to improve battery life, I fear that this phone may have battery life issues as well.

I wish Verizon's LTE press event at 4pm EST would just come already and end this madness!

 

[tropper]

I wish Verizon's LTE press event at 4pm EST would just come already and end this madness!

+ 1

 

[ejz28]

While official specs will not be released for another hour or so, I do fear that battery life will be poor.

Some manufacturers have already been given the green light to start listing accessories (which phone companies allow them to do 2-3 weeks before a phone drops). Take a look at this picture from Droid-Life:

http://www.droid-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/thunderbolt-accessories2.png

Offwire is listing that the standard battery for this phone will be 1400 mAh. To compare, the EVO (which can sometimes also have poor battery life issues for some users, especially when the 4G radio is turned on) has the larger 1500 mAh battery, and the Desire HD (the Thunderbolt's European twin) has a 1230 mAh battery and has SEVERE battery life issues. This quote comes from Engadget's review of the Desire HD:

"We took the new Android handset out to Portugal with us recently for our Nissan Leaf test drive and intentionally left the charger at home. Sadly, we can't say we were impressed by the result. Leaving the house with a fully juiced Desire HD at 11AM, we got to enjoy some very light browsing at the airport, a 30-minute round of Angry Birds while in the air, a few pictures taken en route to the hotel, and then some WiFi-based web exploration at our resting place before the battery gave up on us in the evening. Sure, it lasted "a whole day," but our use was minimal and the wireless radios were throttled by the phone being in airplane mode for half the time."

Seeing how the T-bolt's battery is more or less the same, unless there have been significant hardware improvements to improve battery life, I fear that this phone may have battery life issues as well.

I wish Verizon's LTE press event at 4pm EST would just come already and end this madness!

The processor SHOULD be a newer generation which from what I have read about them should help atleast a little....right??

 

[Bushido Brown]

The TB and the Desire HD have the same hardware. Why doesn't HTC just release a bigger battery? Its not like they're not capable.

 

[06cbrf4i]

Live stream. CES 2011 - Latest CES news - CNET

 

[menschmaschine5]

Hmmmm... Thunderbolts been announced, but still nothing about specs...

 

[Sploinkin]

I'm still underwhelmed. The Droid Bionic looks like a much better phone now.

Darn, I was looking forward to some Sense love.

 

[Droid800]

As expected, the TB is nothing more than a hardware refresh of the Evo with an LTE radio. The flagship Verizon LTE phone this is not.

 

[biff6789]

4.3-inch SuperLCD is the only hard spec released so far

 

[pheatton]

If the specs on the AC front page are anything to go off of Im not chaning from the Inc/Fascinate to this...