Why glass?

[Mike Dee]

Ask away.
How you gonna answer your questions I'd you don't ask.

Who shot J.R.?

 

[cardboard60]

Kristin who was pregnant.

Poor JR.

 

[Morty2264]

Unless your name is Samsung or Apple.

I still think Samsung and Apple need to be careful, especially against one another. If Apple slips up with a product, Samsung can get in the lead; and vice versa.

Look at BlackBerry. They were the champs of the phone industry and then they collapsed. Nothing is ever a sure thing in the smartphone universe!

 

[msm0511]

I still think Samsung and Apple need to be careful, especially against one another. If Apple slips up with a product, Samsung can get in the lead; and vice versa.

Look at BlackBerry. They were the champs of the phone industry and then they collapsed. Nothing is ever a sure thing in the smartphone universe!

Blackberry's problem is they refused to change with the industry more than anything else.

 

[the_boon]

Blackberry's problem is they refused to change with the industry more than anything else.

Exactly. Blackberry didn't think they had to advance because some people preferred buttons... even though they probably new touch was the future. They lied to themselves.

The main reasons BlackBerry failed were NOT because they kept the keyboard.

Matter of fact, ALL of their all-touch phones failed miserably. No one ever wanted a SlabBerry, because might as well buy a [insert brand name]

Funnily enough, a touchscreen phone (The Storm) almost single handedly sealed their fate.

The second hard blow was spending several billions on developing BB10, instead of just launching something like the Android powered KEYone in 2012 when people were really starting to drop their BlackBerry's for iPhones and Androids because they wanted access to apps.

If I presented you right now with a new flagship bezel-less Berry with all the bells and whistles that flagships have and asked you to switch to it from your Samsung/Pixel/Whatever, what possible compelling reason would you have to make the switch?

Why buy a Berry if it looks and does everything like all the other slabs?
Might as well buy those instead!

 

[anon(50597)]

I still think Samsung and Apple need to be careful, especially against one another. If Apple slips up with a product, Samsung can get in the lead; and vice versa.

Look at BlackBerry. They were the champs of the phone industry and then they collapsed. Nothing is ever a sure thing in the smartphone universe!

BlackBerry was not as diversified as Apple and Samsung. They were much dumber though.

 

[Morty2264]

Blackberry's problem is they refused to change with the industry more than anything else.

True. They slipped up!

 

[Morty2264]

BlackBerry was not as diversified as Apple and Samsung. They were much dumber though.

It's true that they didn't release the same number of product lines as Apple and Samsung. I mean, they had the Curve, Bold and Torch lines. It's sad that they lost the smartphone battle. I miss using my BlackBerry phones!

 

[joeldf]

The second hard blow was spending several billions on developing BB10, instead of just launching something like the Android powered KEYone in 2012 when people were really starting to drop their BlackBerry's for iPhones and Androids because they wanted access to apps.

There was a bit more to it than that. Maybe for the everyday consumer at that time, but among BlackBerry's supposed strong position in business, it was when the iPhone natively supported EAS beginning with the iPhone 3G that BlackBerry lost it. At least in the smaller to medium sized businesses that were spending lots of money keeping a BES system on their email servers.

My company, a medium sized architecture firm, had BlackBerry phones for the partners and ran BES on our in-house exchange server. As soon as the iPhone 3G came out with EAS support, they dropped BES as fast as they could. It was an added subscription expense, plus the extra $15 BES data plan AT&T charged per device. That was an easy choice, and one that many other smaller businesses chose during that time. Larger corporate and government clients took a bit longer.

By the time BB10 came out, most of the old BlackBerry clients had already moved on.

 

[delta7]

All might Apple God is the reason. I agree it's stupid...

Like into the Note 10 lite if you looking for something more durable but I'm certain most high end phones are glass back. Everyone follows apple in the hardware dept.

 

[droidntn]

With my next phone, I will definitely look into something with a non-glass back. I don't get the obsession with phone backs. I mean..WHY look at the back of a cellphone? It's usually covered by a case anyway. But to each his own. Just makes no sense to me to produce a 1K phone and then make it easily breakable...wait...maybe that's it..Now I'll need a new one sooner.

 

[Tim-ANC]

It's true that they didn't release the same number of product lines as Apple and Samsung. I mean, they had the Curve, Bold and Torch lines. It's sad that they lost the smartphone battle. I miss using my BlackBerry phones!

Wish they came out with a Passport 2 running android. I pick my old one up occasionally and it is still a pleasure to use.

 

[the_boon]

It's true that they didn't release the same number of product lines as Apple and Samsung. I mean, they had the Curve, Bold and Torch lines. It's sad that they lost the smartphone battle. I miss using my BlackBerry phones!

Well they did have more product lines than Apple and Samsung, you even named them!

Bold - Curve - Torch

Apple had just one iPhone line

Samsung had low end stuff but their star of the show was the S line

Today Samsung has several different lines, the S, the Note, now the lite versions of those, then the A series with different sizes that covers the low end and budget.

Thing is, they all look more similar than ever...

 

[the_boon]

With my next phone, I will definitely look into something with a non-glass back

Best of luck with that if you want something high end!

The best you'll get is a very slim, grippy rubber case...

 

[Morty2264]

Well they did have more product lines than Apple and Samsung, you even named them!

Bold - Curve - Torch

Apple had just one iPhone line

Samsung had low end stuff but their star of the show was the S line

Today Samsung has several different lines, the S, the Note, now the lite versions of those, then the A series with different sizes that covers the low end and budget.

Thing is, they all look more similar than ever...

LOOL you are right - I think I was thinking of Samsung's current product line, for some reason. Quarantine day 7! Haha.

You are right, they all look so similar. It's hard to keep track of them all! The product line that confused me the most as far as different models was Moto.

 

[the_boon]

You are right, they all look so similar

To me, this is the main problem with the current smartphone market.

It might look as if we have tons of options, but do we really?

 

[msm0511]

Well they did have more product lines than Apple and Samsung, you even named them!

Bold - Curve - Torch

Apple had just one iPhone line

Samsung had low end stuff but their star of the show was the S line

Today Samsung has several different lines, the S, the Note, now the lite versions of those, then the A series with different sizes that covers the low end and budget.

Thing is, they all look more similar than ever...

Apple makes several product lines, not just the iPhone. And Samsung literally make everything. Both companies' phones could be low sellers for a few generations and not go the way of the dodo like BlackBerry. That was the point. Neither company ever made only phones to keep them afloat.

 

[the_boon]

Apple makes several product lines, not just the iPhone. And Samsung literally make everything. Both companies' phones could be low sellers for a few generations and not go the way of the dodo like BlackBerry. That was the point. Neither company ever made only phones to keep them afloat.

Ah okay, you were talking different product lines, not just different phone lines.

 

[msm0511]

Ah okay, you were talking different product lines, not just different phone lines.

Yeah, I mainly meant that both Apple and Samsung could easily survive without the $ from their mobile divisions. Sorry if that was unclear.

 

[Golfdriver97]

Post deleted. What I posted was already covered a few posts later.