Why Google and the 5x is awesome!

[recDNA]

Because they listened to their customers! They even talked about it during the presentation. They said they wanted to partner again with LG since the N5 was so loved by customers. Last year, people were asking for an updated N5 and lots were disappointed when the N6 was released. A huge phone, from a different manufacturer, for almost double the price of the previous model.

I find it truly amazing that a company as big and powerful as Google actually listened to the customers and gave them what they wanted in updating the N5 to the 5x. I know it's specs aren't as great as the 6P but it is exactly what it should be: an updated version of the N5, similarly priced to the N5.

I really think that the 6P is this years Nexus and the 5x is a big Thank You to the customers who supported the N5 so much and who wanted to see it updated. Yes, they will make lots of money and that is another reason they did this but I can't think of another company who listens to their customers so well.

I commend Google for making the 5x!

They never listened about restoring old google maps labs and interface.

 

[DWolf1231]

The issue is the size. For some, and I think I fit this, the 6P is just too damn big. I want to love it, but I don't know that I can handle that on a day to day basis.

No, the question isn't why pick the 5X over the 6P. It's why are they so close in price? The answer is that Google was trying to entice people to upgrade to the 6P. It's a very easy upsell.

 

[Tadrift]

? But the 5x has a 1080p screen, it is 5.2 inches, it runs the Snapdragon 808 which is no slouch as current flagships have it (Moto x pure edition, lg g4, lg v10), and it has same camera as 6p which is rated 3rd on DXOmark, which may not mean anything besides the fact that its able to compete with the likes of top end devices which is above and beyond any previous nexus. It doesnt have a sd card but googles nexus program never does because its not what google envisions in android, so that was wishful thinking on your behalf. The only thing missing here is the 3+ gb of ram. Seeing as google built Marshmallow Im sure the 2gbs is more than ample enough to keep up with tasks. The oneplus 2 has similiar specs as does the motox pure edition. What midranger does the device not compete with?

A Asus ZF2, Moto G, and a few others. I would say it competes with them, but for the money, it loses. And for one simple reason. 2GB is going to be a problem. It will be smooth, snappy, I have no doubt. But it WILL have limitations and start force closing apps. I don't care how well optimized the OS is. It is just a fact that you can't get around.

You are right, the only thing missing here is the 3GB. It is a major oversight and I just can't believe they did it. I had this problem with both my Moto G's (2014 1GB and 2GB 2015). Those were awesome phones. For the "average" user, it will be fine. For the true Nexus fan (which is who they are building this for) or even medium hard user, it is a problem.

My only hope is that they add a 3GB or 4GB version. Which is entirely possible at some point.

 

[Tadrift]

You are absolutely right that the Moto G runs okay. I own two of them. If you are alright with your phone only running "okay" with 1-2GB, the 5X will be a great phone. But then you have to ask yourself, why not just buy a Moto G and pocket the extra money?

 

[Tadrift]

No, the question isn't why pick the 5X over the 6P. It's why are they so close in price? The answer is that Google was trying to entice people to upgrade to the 6P. It's a very easy upsell.

It is so obvious, the answer is hard for everyone else. People want to love the 5X. Truth is, the 6P is the phone Google expects to sell or the 5X would be either much cheaper or have equal specs. After all the fanfare and all the 6P buyers are swayed, Google will dump the price the 5X to about 299 and sell many more. It is a standard sales method in almost every tech business.

 

[WinstonSmith#AC]

No, the question isn't why pick the 5X over the 6P. It's why are they so close in price? The answer is that Google was trying to entice people to upgrade to the 6P. It's a very easy upsell.

On price alone, I am with you. But, the size is so much larger.

 

[Zendroid1]

Let's stop with all this nonsense already demanding 3gb ram. I have a nexus 5 with 2gb ram and inferior process and it is still buttery smooth 2 years later running Marshmallow. If you MUST have 3gb ram, then get the 6p already.

 

[noamvent]

for + 70 $ i will buy the 6p because its onlyyyyy 70 $$$$

 

[huungryshark]

That 5x in color mint is a lovely device!

They are expensive here in germany somehow.

Same prize as Sony Z5 compact, Moto X Style Pure Edition etc

Hard to make a decison, but i think it´s going to be the 5x (if they offer it in 32Gb Version, i only see it in 16GB in pre-order in a shop)

Love the size of 5x and it´s low wheight compred to the 6p. And yeah , that mint color is stunning.

 

[jdot104]

No, the question isn't why pick the 5X over the 6P. It's why are they so close in price? The answer is that Google was trying to entice people to upgrade to the 6P. It's a very easy upsell.

This is really what it boils down to. I think the 5X is a completely capable device, and even if it were the only Nexus released this year, I would've bought one. Google could've avoided this scenario by pricing the 5X at the N5's original tiers, with the 16GB being $349 and the 32GB being $399. You lose some features like wireless charging, but for the upgraded camera and fingerprint scanner, I think it's certainly worth it. And that $100 is less of a distraction for people who want the best value.

 

[kroman1107]

I recently put my 6 plus on eBay and went back to my n5 . After the 5x was announced I placed a pre order. I purchased the 16 gb model as I offload my pictures to the cloud and my Mac and don't play games on my phone. Anyone know what the system would take up on the nexus 5x? I'm guessing a few gigs at least.

 

[anon(470989)]

Yup. Makes the 5x price seem about $100 too high. Aluminum+screen size+screen res+amoled+bigger battery+camera options+faster charging+stereo speakers = $75? Something not right there.

That is exactly how I feel. Its aggravating because I wanted to love the 5x and wanted to make it my next phone. But wow...for $70 more you get a hell of a lot more with the 6p. The 5x is overpriced and perhaps I just hold out for a price drop.

 

[getbretweir]

This is the trump card. No other phone can claim the same benefits. Most cant put a quantifiable value to the pure google experience and immediate updates. This is the real reason to buy a Nexus. If specs matter so much more to you, then Nexus really isnt the answer. The throw in here is that Google included one of the top 2 cameras to be had at the moment, as well as the new sensor tech. So for camera and Google bobos, who dont mind the rest, this is nirvana. I guess they cant make everyone happy short of bumping the price out of most buyer's price range.

exactly ... I said this in another post, in response to somebody that didn't understand why people like Nexus. I think it encapsulates a lot of our views ....

"Here's the deal, and what some non Nexus fans just don't understand. When somebody likes stock, they obsess over it. I admittedly have OCD and am borderline unreasonable about certain things. For instance, on an iPhone you can't remove the text below icons, well that would drive me nuts. people think I'm a lunatic, which might be true, but the fact remains that I simply won't buy an iPhone for that reason.

same deal with Nexus. I hate clutter (as I interpret it) and despise carrier branding. I like clean and simple, no bells, no whistles.

people make great arguments, like how if Verizon had an app that I hated, I'd complain about it and call it bloat, which is correct. take that same exact app, put the word Google in front of it with a new icon, and suddenly it's not bloat. now that makes 0 sense and makes me look like an *****. but it's just how I feel, and when it comes down to anything we buy as consumers, how we feel is what's most important.

that feeling of having a device that's untampered with, that's running Android with no interference from a carrier or OEM, is 90% of why most people get a Nexus, so things like wireless charging and OIS can easily be overlooked.

but yeah, stock is a big deal for some, and just like I don't get how somebody can drive around in a dirty car without washing it all summer, they probably don't get why I waste my Sunday mornings waxing a car that was cleaned a week ago!"

 

[getbretweir]

This is really what it boils down to. I think the 5X is a completely capable device, and even if it were the only Nexus released this year, I would've bought one. Google could've avoided this scenario by pricing the 5X at the N5's original tiers, with the 16GB being $349 and the 32GB being $399. You lose some features like wireless charging, but for the upgraded camera and fingerprint scanner, I think it's certainly worth it. And that $100 is less of a distraction for people who want the best value.

or you can look at it the other way and say Google made the right call on pricing. view many people, that wouldn't otherwise gotten the 5x, have said they're getting the 6p cause you're getting a lot more for just an extra $70?

I do agree that the 5x, especially compared to the 6p is slightly overpriced. I'd have guessed $399 would be more reasonable.

people getting the 5x are definitely paying a premium for the smaller display.

 

[getbretweir]

Let's stop with all this nonsense already demanding 3gb ram. I have a nexus 5 with 2gb ram and inferior process and it is still buttery smooth 2 years later running Marshmallow. If you MUST have 3gb ram, then get the 6p already.

perfect example of the spec race, and how so many people judge without actually having real life usage.

the NFL scouting combine is a perfect example. tom brady had one of the worst performances in combine history. jamarcus russell had one of the best. what you see on paper, or in this case, a stop watch and measuring stick, doesn't translate to what you actually get.

if it did, there'd be no discussions and no reviews. specs would be all we needed to judge a phone, which is obviously far from reality.

and take Samsung's 4GB RAM and compare it to a Nexus with 3GB. which phone performs better?

 

[mr_nobody]

Haven't seen anyone mention this so I'll throw it out there...

Any possibility that the pricing flows from the two different manufacturers of these phones? Is it possible that huawei is able to provide the better value phone because:

1. They are a chinese company, not korean.
2. They are willing to make a smaller profit to access markets like the US they have been unable to previously access.

Or some combination of the two?

 

[btort]

perfect example of the spec race, and how so many people judge without actually having real life usage.

the NFL scouting combine is a perfect example. tom brady had one of the worst performances in combine history. jamarcus russell had one of the best. what you see on paper, or in this case, a stop watch and measuring stick, doesn't translate to what you actually get.

if it did, there'd be no discussions and no reviews. specs would be all we needed to judge a phone, which is obviously far from reality.

and take Samsung's 4GB RAM and compare it to a Nexus with 3GB. which phone performs better?

I agree 100%, the only thing that pisssed me off is the 16GB version


My Nexus definitely performs better than a NOTE 4, even though the note 4 has MUCH better specs. Note 4 is such a laggy phone

 

[PhyscoAssassinX]

. Seeing as google built Marshmallow Im sure the 2gbs is more than ample enough to keep up with tasks.

It's funny people don't seem to think about that, this isn't an OEM building a midrange phone (like HTC, Samsung, or Moto) this is Google building it, I doubt they'd but a phone out that'll only get one crummy update because it's "not strong enough to handle the future versions Android". And let's be honest here, every year we hear about how the nexus isn't on par with flagships (people complained about the Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4, Nexus 5 not being up to par with the flagships of their given time for one spec or another). At the end of the day I'm not worried a beautiful Nexus 5 updated specs, nice form factor

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[minnemike]

Haven't seen anyone mention this so I'll throw it out there...

Any possibility that the pricing flows from the two different manufacturers of these phones? Is it possible that huawei is able to provide the better value phone because:

1. They are a chinese company, not korean.
2. They are willing to make a smaller profit to access markets like the US they have been unable to previously access.

Or some combination of the two?

Great points - totally agree

 

[CeruleanBlue58]

That is exactly how I feel. Its aggravating because I wanted to love the 5x and wanted to make it my next phone. But wow...for $70 more you get a hell of a lot more with the 6p. The 5x is overpriced and perhaps I just hold out for a price drop.

Agreed. I'm ready for the 5x 32gb, but the price needs to drop $100 or so before I'm pulling the out the plastic. If they'd put the 6p in the footprint of a 5x, I'd be there now.